E4300 vs. E6600

Ruger22C

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At about half the price, and 1.8ghz vs 2.4ghz - what's the performance difference? Did Anandtech compare the two in a benchmark test? Also, would this be much faster than a single Ath 64 3200+?
 

Ruger22C

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And the 1.8 vs the 2.4? Big difference, or not worth the extra $100?

Thanks.
 

Howard

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I have my E4300 running at 2.52GHz right now, and I'm sure that's not the max.
 

lamere

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Ruger22C
True, but I'm not going to OC a $200 processor.

That makes no sense?

sure it does.
it means i dont want to fry my stuff.

i dont OC either, and there MIGHT be one of my enthusiast friends that do.

honestly, the vast majority of peeps i see OC their rigs are kids that dont have to pay for their own rigs:D
 

Blain

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"honestly, the vast majority of peeps i see OC their rigs are kids that dont have to pay for their own rigs"

How many people do you see face to face that would fit that category?
 

Ruger22C

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Ruger22C
True, but I'm not going to OC a $200 processor.

That makes no sense?

Sure it does. If I dry a $100 CPU, I can replace it. Although I'd seriously try not to, of course. :)
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: Blain
"honestly, the vast majority of peeps i see OC their rigs are kids that dont have to pay for their own rigs"

How many people do you see face to face that would fit that category?
I agree. Way to sound like a fool.
 

strafejumper

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not a huge risk of frying your core 2 duo if you step up the speed slowly and don't keep it maxed out to the limit all the time

i'm not a huge propenent of oc'ing either though - for example, in the very graph shown above:
http://images.anandtech.com/gr..._01090750127/13877.png
the 4300 has to hit 3.4 to get the same fps as the 6600, which is only at 2.4

also to hit a number like 3.4 for one thing today many 4300 won't reach that high, and secondly i think you would need to buy extra cooling hardware, which runs you money, money that could be spent on a faster model - for example a 6600 is only about $38 dollars more than a 6420.

so while it may be fun and look amazing on paper to oc, in the end your particular chip may not be a great oc'er - there is no guarantee you'll reach something like 3.4, you will have to buy cooling hardware to reach very high, and even if you reach that high it may not perform any better than a 2.4 from another model because of tradeoffs like having to slow the memory timings down

in spite of all of this i'm trying to fit a e4300 system into my budget and probably will oc it eventually
 

Blain

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A conservative setup would be to OC an E4400 up to the "speed" of an E6700.
Only the CPU is OC'd, everything else runs at default.
Equal speed for less than 1/2 the cost! :thumbsup::laugh: 2.66GHz isn't hard for an E4400 at all.
 

Navid

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I understand what you mean.
Overclocking is something one should do who is willing to take responsibility for possible screw-up!

All I meant was that if you compare two CPUs and you only overclock one of them, that is not a fair comparison.

But, again, I understand that you are not willing to overclock a $200 CPU as much as you may be willing to overclock a $100 CPU. That is fair and skews the comparison (for you) taking that factor into account.
 

Laminator

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I doubt you will have much trouble overclocking an E6600. This thing can go pretty high without much extra voltage.
 

Ichigo

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It's called diminishing returns. 1.8Ghz => 3Ghz is a huge leap and you will notice the performance difference. 2.4Ghz => 3Ghz is less of a boost and you're paying more for it. Even if you OC it past 3Ghz, paying double the price over an E4300 may not be worth it.
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: Blain
"Frying" a CPU is harder than you think.

I've been OCing as high as possible for 10+ years, and I've *NEVER* fried a CPU.

Its a lot easier and cheaper for intel to just manufacture a ton of the same chip and make smaller modifications like multiplier locks, than it would be to manufacture several different lines at different qualities.

Most of the slower C2Ds are really fasters C2Ds at heart that are just underclocked. There's really nothing to be afraid of, that $100 is best spent elsewhere.

My E6300 clocks up to 2.7ghz at stock voltage and cooling (ram limited :( ) without breaking a sweat, which was faster than even the highest stock C2D at the time.

And the truth is, if you do manage to somehow fry a CPU, you've technically voided your warranty, but they have no way of ever knowing you OCed it.
 

Fenixgoon

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Originally posted by: strafejumper
not a huge risk of frying your core 2 duo if you step up the speed slowly and don't keep it maxed out to the limit all the time

i'm not a huge propenent of oc'ing either though - for example, in the very graph shown above:
http://images.anandtech.com/gr..._01090750127/13877.png
the 4300 has to hit 3.4 to get the same fps as the 6600, which is only at 2.4

also to hit a number like 3.4 for one thing today many 4300 won't reach that high, and secondly i think you would need to buy extra cooling hardware, which runs you money, money that could be spent on a faster model - for example a 6600 is only about $38 dollars more than a 6420.

so while it may be fun and look amazing on paper to oc, in the end your particular chip may not be a great oc'er - there is no guarantee you'll reach something like 3.4, you will have to buy cooling hardware to reach very high, and even if you reach that high it may not perform any better than a 2.4 from another model because of tradeoffs like having to slow the memory timings down

in spite of all of this i'm trying to fit a e4300 system into my budget and probably will oc it eventually

anandtech hit the 3.4ghz on stock cooling. performance also varies based on application, as in some instances it's faster than an X6800
 

ForumMaster

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Originally posted by: Blain
"Frying" a CPU is harder than you think.

indeed. all motherboards today have a built in shutdown mechanism that automatically shuts down the computer if the CPU is too hot. also, while i'm not sure about the C2D's, i know that in the P4's, the chips would automatically slow down based on temperature. there's no reason to take away a good feature so i assume it's still there.

it's really hard to fry a processor. buying any conroe chip and not overclocking it, even a bit, is a sin. after all, why say no to free performance?