e2160 overclocking help needed!!!!!

[jensinmi]

Hello guys,


I need your help regarding this overclocking issue.


I recently purchased the following

Intel Pentium E2160 (1.8Ghz)
Gigabyte GA-P31-S3G ATX Motherboard
A-data 2gb DDR2 800 (pc2 6400)
Seagate 7200 rpm 250gb HD



I have tried overclocking the processor using the gigabyte (motherboard intelligent tweaker) in the bios.

I left all settings and only tried to raise the fsb. I started at 200 and have only been able to go as high as 225 Mhz.

I don't know why this is. I got a second processor thinking the problem was with the first one. The exact same thing occured. I believe that the processors are not the problem.

I tried raising Ram voltage by +0.2V and still no change.


I am really lost and have no idea why this is happening. The maximum speed on each processor I tried is about 1.98ghz.

Someone suggested the problem might be the PSU.



Please help. I have run out of ideas.



Thanks

 

[hnzw rui]

You're probably overclocking the RAM too much. RAM speed increases as your FSB increases. In the BIOS, try changing the memory multiplier to 2.00.

 

[Drsignguy]

Originally posted by: hnzw rui
You're probably overclocking the RAM too much. RAM speed increases as your FSB increases. In the BIOS, try changing the memory multiplier to 2.00.

Basically, what you are looking for here is to have your RAM running @ 1:1. Also If you Read the post in this forum about overclocking it would help you out greatly. "Greysky" put together a great thread to answer most of your questions.



Edit: BTW: I have my E2160 (rev L2) @ 9x277 =2.5 (Approx) @ 1.2875v. VID is 1.300v. Memory (4x1 Gig) @ 1:1. Runs OCCT stable. Just to give you hope

 

[hnzw rui]

Originally posted by: Drsignguy
Basically, what you are looking for here is to have your RAM running @ 1:1. Also If you Read the post in this forum about overclocking it would help you out greatly. "Greysky" put together a great thread to answer most of your questions.

True, but first time I read that guide on my first try oc'ing, I had no idea what RAM multiplier/divider was. Not graysky's fault since changing the RAM multiplier differs depending on the board/BIOS. Hence, I just set all RAM-related settings to Auto. Someone had to explain to me explicitly what those memory multiplier numbers in the Gigabyte P35's BIOS meant. I'm guessing it might be the same with the OP.

 

[jensinmi]

Thanks so much. I reduced the memory multiplier to 2.00
and it worked. I was able to go as far as (315 x 9) = 2.80Ghz. However, it crashes after 15 minutes of Company of heroes. Reduced it to (300x9) = 2.70Ghz. It all seems to be stable now. Core temp idle is about 57 degress and Company of heroes minimized shows a temperature of 121 degrees. Crysis lags on medium settings. What do you think of this??

 

[Kirby64]

Woah, 57 degrees Celsius or Fahrenheit at idle? Either way, that's gotta be way off. The only way I'd be 57F at idle is if your computer was inside a refrigerator. If it's 57C idle, that's way WAY too high. 121C idle would cause your comp to shut down.

Also, by stable, what do you mean? If it's 12 hrs prime95 stable, then ok, but don't assume because your comp doesn't crash that it's stable.

 

[jensinmi]

The temperatures I listed are in centigrades sorry. Does that mean I should downclock the processor if Idle is about 57 degrees centigrade. Never heard aboutabout prime95. I'll try to download that. But, what you are saying is that my temp is too high, eh??

What do you suggest I do?

 

[Drsignguy]

First of we would need your VID of your processor. Also, we need the voltage you set the cpu in bios. Remember voltage= heat. More voltage, more heat. What Heatsink are you using? What you are attempting here is to have the most stability @ the lowest voltage. To low will cause a instability and/or crashes and to high will contribute to more heat. Just remember, the E2160 is rated for a max of 1.5v to be safe. Good idea to stay under that if all possible. Running Prime or OCCT are for testing memory and CPU for stability. Set yourself a OC goal (reasonable) and lets see if we can help you achieve.

 

[jensinmi]

I am using the stock cooler and I'm now at 2.700Ghz with a voltage of 1.3500. The original voltage was 1.3250. I am attempting to overclock to 3.00Ghz (333x 9) although that is proving difficult. Any advice will be appreciated.

 

[Drsignguy]

ok, first off, I would'nt plan on trying to go to high of an overclock. Lets set you to 266 x 9 = 2.4 @ 1.325v. Make sure your memory is 1:1. You will work on a higher clock later. Get stable first and understand what you need to do to get there. Get prime and/or OCCT for testing . If a crash occurs, step up the voltage in small intervals. With that Stock HSF, you have to watch your temps. when you get this, post your results.

Edit: when testing, if running and no crashes @ 1.325v for a few hrs, drop the voltage a notch and test again. Keep doing this untill it becomes unstable then raise it back up a notch. Small steps.

 

[GrJohnso]

These chips are pretty friendly for overclocking, but do need a little bump in voltage for stability. I'm running on a GA-EP35-DS3R 2.1... Running 9x334 (3.01ghz) at 1.425v droops down to about 1.39v when running. Memory is some 8500 G.Skill stuff, after adjusting settings, running at a little over 500mhz 5-5-5-15, stock 2.1v... Idle temps are 25c, load get's up to about 52-55c running Orthos... Most games just get it up to about 50c... Using Scythe Mungen or something like that... Sounds like your temps are too high, need to check you cooler setup....

Anyway, follow the regular overclocking guide on here to figure out what you memory is capable of. Then work on the CPU via the FSB, keeping the memory below the max you found in step one. Once CPU limit is reached, then you can bring the mem back up towards it's max to figure out your happy place. Don't be in a hurry, push a little one day, then come back to it later... You'll get there...

 

[jensinmi]

Ok. Thanks so much. I'll give these suggestions a try and get back to you guys

 

[chinaman1472]

Hopefully you'll be a bit more successful than me. I couldn't break 2.7GHz (300x9) to save my life.

 

[MustangSVT]

Originally posted by: chinaman1472
Hopefully you'll be a bit more successful than me. I couldn't break 2.7GHz (300x9) to save my life.

weird mine does 345 x 9 w/o any problem @ stock v

i thought it was normal for them to o/c easily.

 

[chinaman1472]

Jeez . I put 305x9 at 1.45v and +0.2v RAM and it errors on prime95 within 2 minutes.
But a 50% is a still good enough for me, it'd be nice to go higher on stock cooling, but I can live with 2.7GHz

 

[MustangSVT]

Originally posted by: chinaman1472
Jeez . I put 305x9 at 1.45v and +0.2v RAM and it errors on prime95 within 2 minutes.
But a 50% is a still good enough for me, it'd be nice to go higher on stock cooling, but I can live with 2.7GHz

what's your mobo?

im using abit ip35-e.

interestingly the most demanding program I found is COD4.

I would run prime all day and it would be fine. Crysis would be fine, but 3 minutes of COD4 would reboot the system on anything above 350.

oh and I'm running it with Gemini2 .. the biggest heatsink i've ever used

 

[Drsignguy]

I'm in the same boat as chinaman, Tough to get high OC. Mine is the L2 rev not the M0. As of now, I have it running @ 1.2875v with a VID of 1.300 @ 2.5 but as soon as I want to run higher and add the volts, make sure the ram is adjusted as well, errors all over the place. So, just wondering what cpu the OP has and with that stock fan, well......Hmmmm

 

[superstition]

Originally posted by: Drsignguy
I'm in the same boat as chinaman, Tough to get high OC. Mine is the L2 rev not the M0. As of now, I have it running @ 1.2875v with a VID of 1.300 @ 2.5 but as soon as I want to run higher and add the volts, make sure the ram is adjusted as well, errors all over the place. So, just wondering what cpu the OP has and with that stock fan, well......Hmmmm

Probably a motherboard issue. What are you using?

 

[Drsignguy]

Originally posted by: superstition

Originally posted by: Drsignguy
I'm in the same boat as chinaman, Tough to get high OC. Mine is the L2 rev not the M0. As of now, I have it running @ 1.2875v with a VID of 1.300 @ 2.5 but as soon as I want to run higher and add the volts, make sure the ram is adjusted as well, errors all over the place. So, just wondering what cpu the OP has and with that stock fan, well......Hmmmm

Probably a motherboard issue. What are you using?

E2160 sits in an Intel 975XBX2. This Mobo is fickel and a bitch. But no biggy, Its my secondary machine. Still trying tho.

 

[jensinmi]

Alright. So far. I went to 2.5Ghz while dropping voltage all the way to 1.285V. Prime 95is running stable for 12 hours on this setting. I have also reduced idle temp to 44 degrees centigrade (coretemp). Load temperatures are still off the chart exceeding 85 degrees centigrade. I don't think my fan is speeding up to accomodate the loads. What do you guys think about this.

 

[Acanthus]

401x8 @ +.1v worked fine for my E2160 on a DFI Bloodiron P35-T2R with a quad core stock cooler on it.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: jensinmi
Alright. So far. I went to 2.5Ghz while dropping voltage all the way to 1.285V. Prime 95is running stable for 12 hours on this setting. I have also reduced idle temp to 44 degrees centigrade (coretemp). Load temperatures are still off the chart exceeding 85 degrees centigrade. I don't think my fan is speeding up to accomodate the loads. What do you guys think about this.

Are you using the cooler that came with it? Intel stated bundling a real garbage low profile cooler with them... Youll have to upgrade it to get load temps under control.

 

[GrJohnso]

jensinmi,

Those temps are pretty out of control. Like Acanthus says, you'll need some kind of after market cooler on there if you plan on overclocking that thing for any period of time. You don't want to be spending much time above the 60c range under load... Your 80c temps will lead to a very, very short lived processor. Idle should be in the 20-30c range, so even your idle temp says something is wrong.

Regarding fan speed, try turning off the variable fan speed control in the BIOS if you have that option, leaving it at max. At least do this until you see some reasonable temps.

 

[golem]

I thought it was generally safe if Load temps on the e2xxx series were around 70C?

 

[Drsignguy]

Using a stock HS and getting those kind of results in temps are really not a good idea. As GrJohnso said, they are pretty much out of control. I would lower the OC and get the temps down to a safe level @ load until you get a good aftermarket heatsink. Getting to the 70c range is ( IMO ) a bit high for my taste. The lower the better.