E2140

[jjmIII]

I've been playing for years. Amd and Intel.

After building a 'GO' q6600 on an IP35-E, I decided to try an e2140 on the same board. I grabbed some Crucial Ballistix 800 instead of the CB 1066 I used on the quad.

Abit IP35-E
Intel e2140 (1.6ghz 800bus)
Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR2-800
Cooler Master TX2 HSF

This thing does a full 100% OC !!!
I shut down after 16 hours of Orthos at 3.2Ghz.
Very stable....probably has 10-20mhz more fsb, but why?

Is anyone else playing with these??
Sisoft rates faster than ANY dual-core out there at this speed.

Very Happy

 

[21stHermit]

Cool . . . Well I mean HOT!!!

Originally posted by: jjmIIICrucial Ballistix Tracer DDR2-800

How important is this RAM to your OC? And why an Abit MB, I thought Gigabit was the OC MB of choice?

Thanks
Hermit

 

[jjmIII]

The Mobo has enough dividers that ram isn't that important. It is nice running DDR1000 on my quad though.

Why the Abit?? It's cheap and a great board. Lots of settings for $80 after rebate.

IP35-E ($80 AR - Newegg)
Crucial 800 ($37 AR - TigerDirect)
E2140 ($70 +ship - Mwave)
Cooler Master TX2 ($1.99 AR +ship - SVC)

EDIT: 6600pci-e (w/ Zalman), 80gb pata, Lite-on pata CDRW, Lite-on sata CD-drive, old Enhance 350W PS

 

[bryanW1995]

what'd you do with the quad?

 

[jjmIII]

Originally posted by: bryanW1995
what'd you do with the quad?

It's on its own IP35-E happily at 3Ghz on the stock cooler.
Not sure if it's any better, but I have a TX2 coming since they are soo cheap right now. I have the Ballistix 1066 @ 1000 on this board, but LOVE the "Tracer" 800 I got at Tiger. It happens to be in my last remaining window case.....and looks BLING!!

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Originally posted by: 21stHermit
Cool . . . Well I mean HOT!!!

Originally posted by: jjmIIICrucial Ballistix Tracer DDR2-800

How important is this RAM to your OC? And why an Abit MB, I thought Gigabit was the OC MB of choice?

Thanks
Hermit

You must have skipped my review of the Abit IP35-E @ the MB forum. This board can hit 500MHz FSB with a one notch bump in VTT, NB, and SB voltages. It's the BEST value among the overclocking P35 boards.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Originally posted by: jjmIII
I've been playing for years. Amd and Intel.

After building a 'GO' q6600 on an IP35-E, I decided to try an e2140 on the same board. I grabbed some Crucial Ballistix 800 instead of the CB 1066 I used on the quad.

Abit IP35-E
Intel e2140 (1.6ghz 800bus)
Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR2-800
Cooler Master TX2 HSF

This thing does a full 100% OC !!!
I shut down after 16 hours of Orthos at 3.2Ghz.
Very stable....probably has 10-20mhz more fsb, but why?

Is anyone else playing with these??
Sisoft rates faster than ANY dual-core out there at this speed.

Very Happy

These C2D chips are built on the same platform as the more expensive E6xx0 CPUs. 50% of these chips should be able to hit 3.2GHz. Naturally, you'll need a good MB and RAM to go this far.

 

[three4seven]

im curious to know the temps @ 3.2 ghz + a TX 2 cooler..

i had no reason to.. but i picked up a tx2 cooler for 8.90 shipped AR...

 

[jjmIII]

I was able to do 3.2 on the stock cooler @ 70-71C. The TX2 lowered me to 64-66C. These are full load numbers using Orthos.

 

[Ika]

The reviews I've seen put the TX/TX2 at about the same performance as the Freezer 7 Pro, which is well-regarded as a great value cooler. The TX2 is an alternative to the Freezer 7 Pro; both are pretty much exactly the same in cooling ability and noise. As an added bonus, the TX2 (because of its shroud) can cool parts of the mobo.

 

[Arkaign]

Great stuff, and a helluva lot more powerful than the nearest AMD matchup (T550+X3600@2.6-3.0). Of course, there is a $30-$50 premium for the setup, but it makes sense to me, being so much faster.

 

[21stHermit]

Originally posted by: jjmIII
The Mobo has enough dividers that ram isn't that important. It is nice running DDR1000 on my quad though.

Why the Abit?? It's cheap and a great board. Lots of settings for $80 after rebate.

Thanks :beer: :beer:

Just the kind of factual answer to help me learn. I had an Abit MB years ago, I was not impressed, things change. But cheap and lots of dividers I do understand.

Hermit

 

[21stHermit]

Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
[You must have skipped my review of the Abit IP35-E @ the MB forum. This board can hit 500MHz FSB with a one notch bump in VTT, NB, and SB voltages. It's the BEST value among the overclocking P35 boards.

You are correct, but if I decide to go this way, I'll be sure to read your review.

Thanks for the heads up. :beer:
Hermit

 

[Troubadour]

I have an E2140 with the stock 650i board. Cheapest way to go C2D where I'm located. The day the package arrived in the mail I had it running 2.7 Ghz with stock voltage. I know there's more potential in the board and I'm just waiting until I have a free minute to play around with it. The E2xxx series is an incredible value and I've been recommending it to anybody who will listen.

 

[21stHermit]

Originally posted by: jjmIII
IP35-E ($80 AR - Newegg)
Crucial 800 ($37 AR - TigerDirect)
E2140 ($70 +ship - Mwave)
Cooler Master TX2 ($1.99 AR +ship - SVC)

One more Question:

Is their something magic about the P35 chipset in this context? It would seem that the P35 is only used in more expensive MBs, other chipsets are available.

BTW, it looks as if I'd qualify for the Abit rebate [PO Box] most rebates exclude PO Boxes and the PO will NOT deliver to my street address. Did you get your rebate?

Thanks
Hermit

 

[SerpentRoyal]

P35 runs cooler, especially with IP35-E. No need to tweak with VTT, NB, and SB voltages until 430-450MHz FSB. Abit's rebate is fast...usually 4 to 5 weeks.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: 21stHermit

Originally posted by: jjmIII
IP35-E ($80 AR - Newegg)
Crucial 800 ($37 AR - TigerDirect)
E2140 ($70 +ship - Mwave)
Cooler Master TX2 ($1.99 AR +ship - SVC)

One more Question:

Is their something magic about the P35 chipset in this context? It would seem that the P35 is only used in more expensive MBs, other chipsets are available.

BTW, it looks as if I'd qualify for the Abit rebate [PO Box] most rebates exclude PO Boxes and the PO will NOT deliver to my street address. Did you get your rebate?

Thanks
Hermit

680i boards are still ranked amungst the highest priced boards you can get.

The P35 board is the most stable board i have worked with.

The gigabyte P35-DQ6 is the best board i have next to my ASUS P5K-DLX. Reason for this is because it requires less voltage to maintain the same overclock. The DQ6 i would like to say apears to be the more stable board. Look at the backside. It speaks for itself.

Here

I have these boards:

Abit IP35-E <--- awesome crunch board.
Gigabyte P35-DS3P and P35-DQ6 <--- board layout is almost identical. Hence why i recomend people the DS3P when overclocking is primary
ASUS P5K-DLX <--- had to try it with all the praise behind it.
eVGA 680i <--- used as a freezbie to keep my dog company.

If your overclocking, and its your primary rig, i would definitely look at the gigabyte. If you need a cheap economy overclocking board, i would definitely look at the Abit IP35.

My favorate still stands on the gigabyte DQ6.

 

[jjmIII]

Originally posted by: Aflac
The reviews I've seen put the TX/TX2 at about the same performance as the Freezer 7 Pro, which is well-regarded as a great value cooler. The TX2 is an alternative to the Freezer 7 Pro; both are pretty much exactly the same in cooling ability and noise. As an added bonus, the TX2 (because of its shroud) can cool parts of the mobo.

Just as an added note:

I've read that the Freezer 7 won't fit the Abit IP35-E (not sure about the non-E or pro, but probably those too). One user review stated he trimmed the Freezer and it was still too big. Never tried it myself though. I think if you point the fan the wrong way (IMO blowing rearward is the only correct way) it might fit. Again not sure though.

The TX2 however fits the IP35-E like a glove. The rear air deflector fits perfect to cool the mosfet-heatsink / caps near the back of the board. Some say they had a hard time with the Intel-style push pin mounts. I had no problems. It mounted just as secure as the OEM, and with no issues. The swap from OEM took seconds! The SVC deal is pretty hard to pass up too!!

EDIT: Link...

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Big Typhoon also works well with IP35-E. I replace the stock 120mm with a medium speed 120 x 38 mm Panaflo. Under full load, the Panaflo puts out enough pressure to cool the NB and MOSFET areas. BT is often on sale for $18 plus about $6 shipping.

When idling the Panaflo is dead silent thanks to the excellent onboard fan control. And yes, IP35-E will work with 2-pin Panaflo. Set fan speed control to 3-pin mode in BIOS. I have mine at 30% low and 60% high, with 40C target temperature.

 

[21stHermit]

Tom's Hardware got the same results, 3.2GHz, using a E2160 on stock cooling. Their review was posted today.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

It's not logical to mate a cheap $90 CPU to a $130 MB. The goal is to get the most bang for your $. IP35-E is good up to 500MHz FSB. An experienced and informed reviewer would pair this CPU with the IP35-E. $90 @ MWAVE or $70 AR.

I suspect these people also get kick-backs from Gigabyte and Asus to promote their products.

Note the disclaimer:
We used a Gigabyte P35-DS3P, but any cheaper model of the DS3 family or similar products of other brand manufacturers should easily produce similar results.

 

[21stHermit]

Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
It's not logical to mate a cheap $90 CPU to a $130 MB. The goal is to get the most bang for your $.

Have to agree.

I suspect these people also get kick-backs from Gigabyte and Asus to promote their products.

Could be, popular websites have a lot of muscle these days.

Note the disclaimer:
We used a Gigabyte P35-DS3P, but any cheaper model of the DS3 family or similar products of other brand manufacturers should easily produce similar results

At least they made it clear other MB's will work too. Besides, they used stock cooling which is certainly a budget item.

Bottom line: They did an extensive array of benchmarks which show for a vast number of applications GHz rules and not cache. Which makes the budget OC genre a very valid category. All of these test/reviews are less than perfect, but none the less, useful data points to the intelligent reader.

In a couple of months, when I get into 100's of hours of text to machine language compiling for my project(s), I'll be building a budget OCer.

BTW, Is their a P35 chipset MB with built in graphics? When I do my compling, the monitor won't even be on.

Thanks
Hermit

 

[The-Noid]

Since when is a 90$ psu cheap?

 

[jjmIII]

Originally posted by: 21stHermit
Tom's Hardware got the same results, 3.2GHz, using a E2160 on stock cooling. Their review was posted today.

Ya, Tom's is always following my lead .

I think the e2140 is the better cpu for OCing.
You can get that nice 100% OC and have your DDR800 running in spec.

My system is 110% stable, and I'm only on 1.3875V in bios. Tom had to use 1.525V.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

It's a Gigabyte board! More $, more voltage.