E-mail. CC me or copy me?

[JujuFish]

AND Dog eat Dog

/facepalm

 

[BoberFett]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cc

Ouch.

 

[spidey07]

We don't differentiate. I just say "send me that" can they can put my address where they want. It doesn't matter as long as its sent to the right people.

Actually it does matter.

When you copy somebody it means "no action or reply necessary but thought you'd like to know" vs. actually sending it in the TO: field means "this is expressly addressed to you, action or response may be expected"

 

[Engineer]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cc

:hmm:

 

[zinfamous]

I just came back from the ATM machine, what's going on here?

you game back form the Automated Teller Machine machine?

is that some weird kind of stuttering problem?

Did you enter you Personal Identification Number number?

 

[olds]

Ouch.

DOH!

 

[zinfamous]

The collective age of ATOT shows they don't know nor have used carbon paper for a memo. I'm surprised by Olds though as he was used to stone tablets.

I once used carbon paper in the 2nd grade.

Then our parents moved and transferred us to a better school district.

 

[1sikbITCH]

When you generate an email, your options are as follows:

To:
Cc:
Bcc:

So even kids who do not know the origins of Carbon Copy are going to learn it as "Cc". I work with 3rd parties in private industry as well as the government every day and they all say "I sent your client a letter and Cc'd you on it."

There are many words in the English language that come from antiquated origins but are still used today even though their original meaning is obsolete. One that comes to mind immediately although it's not exactly the same idea is "kick the bucket".

In the old days you strung the dude up with a noose and kicked the bucket out from underneath thus breaking his neck and killing him when he dropped. That hasn't been common practice in over a century but everyone knows what "kick the bucket" means. Cc won't be going anywhere.

 

[zinfamous]

Actually it does matter.

When you copy somebody it means "no action or reply necessary but thought you'd like to know" vs. actually sending it in the TO: field means "this is expressly addressed to you, action or response may be expected"

that is profoundly retarded.

maybe this is why you don't have a job?

:hmm:

 

[spidey07]

that is profoundly retarded.

maybe this is why you don't have a job?

:hmm:

Umm, I guess you don't know how to use E-mail then. And I haven't been without a job in over 20 years, save for a week or two.

Did they not teach how to compose a memo in school?

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

I speak to myself and blind copy everyone.

 

[spidey07]

I speak to myself and blind copy everyone.

At least you didn't say "I BCC'd myself". Which for some unknown reason many people do blind copy or copy themselves thinking "that way I have a record of it".

 

[zinfamous]

Umm, I guess you don't know how to use E-mail then. And I haven't been without a job in over 20 years, save for a week or two.

Did they not teach how to compose a memo in school?

I learned useful skills in school. If I were ever in a class that chose to waste my time and money by enforcing such arbitrary and nonsensical "theories of memos," then I would have transferred.

I learned how to write and engage in critical thought in school.

Then again, I never went to business "school."

lol. "business school"

 

[spidey07]

I learned useful skills in school. If I were ever in a class that chose to waste my time and money by enforcing such arbitrary and nonsensical "theories of memos," then I would have transferred.

I learned how to write and engage in critical thought in school.

Then again, I never went to business "school."

lol. "business school"

I was thinking more along the lines of middle school.

 

[Perknose]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cc

Exactly. spidey is dead wrong, as usual.

Hey spidey, if CC hasn't come to universally mean "copy" me, as the dictionary clearly indicates it has, then please explain to us what that BCC option on your e-mail means.

 

[Theb]

I often carbon copy people when I send electronic mail from both my International Business Machines personal computer and my Macintosh Operating System Ten computer.

 

[spidey07]

Exactly. spidey is dead wrong, as usual.

Hey spidey, if CC hasn't come to universally mean "copy" me, as the dictionary clearly indicates it has, then please explain to us what that BCC option on your e-mail means.

Blind Carbon Copy.

Does nobody here know how to compose a memo and the codes used after the closing?

 

[zinfamous]

I was thinking more along the lines of middle school.

Oh, sorry.

I was on far too many drugs to remember middle school.

:hmm:

 

[zinfamous]

Blind Carbon Copy.

Does nobody here know how to compose a memo and the codes used after the closing?

no one cares.

because it's completely useless.

 

[spidey07]

no one cares.

because it's completely useless.

You underestimate the power of a business memo. Carries MUCH more weight than an E-mail. E-mail is just a memo, but without the attention and force a memo has.

Let me guess, you don't know how to compose a business letter and have your secretary type it up on company letterhead? You think an E-mail carries the same weight?

 

[gorcorps]

You underestimate the power of a business memo. Carries MUCH more weight than an E-mail. E-mail is just a memo, but without the attention and force a memo has.

Let me guess, you don't know how to compose a business letter and have your secretary type it up on company letterhead? You think an E-mail carries the same weight?

Yup. Some companies aren't crazy uptight about such truly trivial jibberish.

 

[spidey07]

Yup. Some companies aren't crazy uptight about such truly trivial jibberish.

Good luck getting contracts, SOWs, RFPs signed and accepted via E-mail.

A FAX or hard delivery or nothing. What is trivial to you has legal ramifications to you and you as a Representative of The Company.

 

[Ichinisan]

A little annoyance. You carbon COPY somebody, you don't "CC" them. I cringe whenever I hear somebody say "I CC'd you". Can you copy me on that email you're going to send? Thanks for copying me on that e-mail.

NOT thanks for CCing me.

Poll inbound.

Who gives a shit? "CC" is fewer syllables and lots of people that use it don't actually know what it stands for. I don't mind hearing "CC" at all.

You're the same guy who thinks anyone is an "idiot" for using the term "WiFi."

This goes to my point about folks in the wireless LAN arena. If you call it "Wi-Fi" we assume you are an idiot and haven't been working in this field for very long. If you call it "Wi-Fi" we assume you're stupid and are new to networking.

But for brand recognition, the wi-fi alliance has done a good job. You see it in this thread.

Still makes my skin crawl when folks refer to wireless LAN networking at "wi-fi".

"But we can use wi-fi!"

"Ummm, it's wireless LAN you fucking idiot"

Dispute me all you want on this, only shows the power of marketing. Nobody with a lick of intelligence or experience calls it "wi-fi", to do so exposes them as stupid.

D: Wow. Something's wrong with you. WiFi(tm) is perfectly acceptable and universally understood. It's fine to use as long as you don't try to say that it means anything other than "certified, inter-operable 802.11x network devices."

I was one of the earliest adopters, using adhoc 802.11b PCMCIA cards before you could buy a router / AP at any retail store.

 

[Evadman]

Good luck getting contracts, SOWs, RFPs signed and accepted via E-mail.

A FAX or hard delivery or nothing. What is trivial to you has legal ramifications to you and you as a Representative of The Company.

Again, you have little idea about what you are talking. I have had SOW's and RFP's approved by me and legal via email; in fact a recent one was just over 9M.

Your company may require it, but that is quite different than a legal requirement. If you have any questions, I suggest talking to your legal department. Ok, maybe not your companies' legal department, because they are a bunch of doofuses. Check with a competent legal adviser.

IANAL BTW, so don't sue me.

 

[Jumpem]

Actually it does matter.

When you copy somebody it means "no action or reply necessary but thought you'd like to know" vs. actually sending it in the TO: field means "this is expressly addressed to you, action or response may be expected"

This is very true.



At my office, everyone uses the term "copied" Not sure I have ever heard someone say they "CC'd" me.