Dynoed the car today *Now with video*

[geno]

mount won't net you any extra HP on the dyno

Isn't that what I just said?

No, you said:

"The added power would have to come from somewhere else, huh? I guess there must be something else than having an intake, solid lower motor mount"

Why list the mount as a reason for extra HP on the dyno?

 

[alkemyst]

I think he did it to show that's all he has done to his car.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: IshmaelLeaver

Originally posted by: Thoreau

Originally posted by: IshmaelLeaver

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: IshmaelLeaver

Originally posted by: TrueBlueLS
why not take a gas efficient car and make it fast? It's the ultimate sleeper.

The Cav LS is not the "ultimate sleeper".

My thoughts exactly. A Mercury Marauder is a sleeper. The Caprice-based Chevy Impalla SS was a sleeper. The _original_, non-adorned Pontiac GTO was a sleeper. The older Volvo 760 Turbos were sleepers (little-known fact, a Volvo 760 Turbo wagon could beat a Porsche 944 N/A).

A Cavalier is a sleeper only in the sense that it never wakes up.

ZV

The best sleepers I've seen:

MG Midget w/ small block V8
VW Fastback w/ built GM 3800 V6
VW Beetle w/ RX7 Turbo engine
Nissan Sentra SE-R w/ SR20DET or SR20VE
Audi A6 Avant

IMO, the B13 Sentra SE-R is the best sleeper out there. Totally unassuming, cheap and easy engine swap, great gas mileage, and should last around 200k miles.

*blushes* Makes me glad I just scored an '03 Sentra SER a few days ago. Only 165-175HP stock, but the possibilities are soooo wonderful. I already raced my friends '03 Cavalier. *giggle*

B13 SE-R = 1991 to 1994. You have one of the new ones. Still a _very_ nice car, but it's not the same as an older one with a 2.0 turbo engine.

....

Why not swap that engine into a 240sx and have RWD?

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: amdskip
When we get my dads new dragster built it will have over 700 horses hopefully putting him in the 7's.

Comparing a dragster to a street car is pretty absurd, imo.

I'd say 12s is a pretty worthwhile goal for most street cars.

12 is more than respectable in a street car, build to much and you end up with a trailer queen

 

[TrueBlueLS]

Originally posted by: geno

mount won't net you any extra HP on the dyno

Isn't that what I just said?

No, you said:

"The added power would have to come from somewhere else, huh? I guess there must be something else than having an intake, solid lower motor mount"

Why list the mount as a reason for extra HP on the dyno?

Added power isn't always horsepower. There's also torque. That and I know now that the lower mount is actually doing its job considering I ran .055 seconds slower this year with a 2.385 60 foot time compared to a 2.228. You do the math on that.

 

[slikmunks]

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: amdskip
When we get my dads new dragster built it will have over 700 horses hopefully putting him in the 7's.

Comparing a dragster to a street car is pretty absurd, imo.

I'd say 12s is a pretty worthwhile goal for most street cars.

12 is more than respectable in a street car, build to much and you end up with a trailer queen

word. if you go any faster than a 12 second car, it usually isn't even close to streetable... maybe drive it once a month, and that's worrying all the time about getting in trouble for it... you don't really realize how fast a 12 second car is until you've been in one.... a 12 second car is SICK. I've been in a couple mid 12s, low 13s cars.... and they're FAST. hell, some of them'd be faster if they got more traction and less spinning in 1st, 2nd, & 3rd gear... and that guy was running 285's in the back!!

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: slikmunks

word. if you go any faster than a 12 second car, it usually isn't even close to streetable... maybe drive it once a month, and that's worrying all the time about getting in trouble for it... you don't really realize how fast a 12 second car is until you've been in one.... a 12 second car is SICK. I've been in a couple mid 12s, low 13s cars.... and they're FAST. hell, some of them'd be faster if they got more traction and less spinning in 1st, 2nd, & 3rd gear... and that guy was running 285's in the back!!

I had mentioned this and even a car in the 14's is nice on the street....I got flamed saying there are tons of cars that can beat that.

 

[IshmaelLeaver]

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis

Originally posted by: IshmaelLeaver

Originally posted by: Thoreau

Originally posted by: IshmaelLeaver

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: IshmaelLeaver

Originally posted by: TrueBlueLS
why not take a gas efficient car and make it fast? It's the ultimate sleeper.

The Cav LS is not the "ultimate sleeper".

My thoughts exactly. A Mercury Marauder is a sleeper. The Caprice-based Chevy Impalla SS was a sleeper. The _original_, non-adorned Pontiac GTO was a sleeper. The older Volvo 760 Turbos were sleepers (little-known fact, a Volvo 760 Turbo wagon could beat a Porsche 944 N/A).

A Cavalier is a sleeper only in the sense that it never wakes up.

ZV

The best sleepers I've seen:

MG Midget w/ small block V8
VW Fastback w/ built GM 3800 V6
VW Beetle w/ RX7 Turbo engine
Nissan Sentra SE-R w/ SR20DET or SR20VE
Audi A6 Avant

IMO, the B13 Sentra SE-R is the best sleeper out there. Totally unassuming, cheap and easy engine swap, great gas mileage, and should last around 200k miles.

*blushes* Makes me glad I just scored an '03 Sentra SER a few days ago. Only 165-175HP stock, but the possibilities are soooo wonderful. I already raced my friends '03 Cavalier. *giggle*

B13 SE-R = 1991 to 1994. You have one of the new ones. Still a _very_ nice car, but it's not the same as an older one with a 2.0 turbo engine.

....

Why not swap that engine into a 240sx and have RWD?

Because the Sentra and 240SX have different engine configurations.

But also because we're talking sleepers here. The S14 240SX is not a sleeper, as it looks fast.