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Dylan says today's recordings sound ?atrocious?

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I agree with him, at least his sentiment. And I agree with most things people have said in this thread.

CD's are only "okay." And mp3's, music on cell phones, things like that means we're going backwards not forwards.

Surround sound music is good if done right. Studio recordings don't sound like live performances, 2.0 or 5.1. So I have no problem with being put in the center of the "sound field." Still, I prefer the surround channels providing ambience. Live performances sound more... real that way.

Pink Floyd fans ought to look for the Dark Side of the Moon DVD-A bootleg online somewhere. It's a bootleg but it's honestly the best sounding bootleg ever made (originally mixed by Alan Parsons). Some people like it better than the official SA-CD remaster.
 
Originally posted by: clamum
People are saying there has been no quality music that will withstand the test of time (20 years+) made in the past decade? Uh. Turn off MTV, for starters.
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MTV plays music?
 
I dunno, I think dylan's voice sounded a lot better on love & theft than it did on some of his early works.

I just got a fairly decent stereo system in my car. Zapco amp and the like. I can definitely tell the difference between a mediocre recording and a good one even when compressed at 320kbps. One of my favorite bands, the arcade fire, does not sound as good with a good stereo system even direct off the CD. On the other hand, older recordings have this strange effect. The instruments sound great but the vocals do not. Frequently they have too much echo or sound like the singer was in a tin can singing. Somewhere in the mid 60's it got better for some artists, but not all. Some beatles songs sound effin amazing for their time.
 
Originally posted by: SludgeFactory
Rock music has plenty of dynamics. Unless you're producing a solid wall of white noise (Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music, anybody?), there are dynamics. Hyper-compression blurs the details out of the music. It causes me to have trouble focusing on individual instruments in the mix, it's like a barrage of noise that's very fatiguing to listen to. It's not a volume problem, it's not "if it's too loud, you're too old." It's music that has the breath squashed out of it, it sounds like sh!t with the volume knob at 1 or 10.
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Fscking BAM!!!!

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
The real music is still out there. Made by relative no names in many cases...at least to our generation. You just got to fish it out.

Three examples of people I know...

Mark Knopfler
Mary Gauthier
John Prine

And dare I say, you can look to many places outside of the USA to find good music.

Hollywood is 95% dog poo.
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What's really wierd is all of the good music is actually coming from the country scene these days. Rock guitarists are increasingly looking to country musicians for inspiration as the current pop scene is terrible. Unfortunately the music producers that ruined other kinds of music are now turning their sites to country (hence the "Has to be good looking, make videos, and use synthisizers instead of musicians" crap that's starting to come out now).
 
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
he's endlessly touted as some kinda 60's god. i've tried listening to his music and supposed brilliant lyrics. i don't see it. he can stfu about sound quality.
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I can't stand his music - if you can call it that - either, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have a very real point.

If a pathological liar says the sky is blue, does that mean it is not?
 
Originally posted by: Fritzo
What's really wierd is all of the good music is actually coming from the country scene these days. Rock guitarists are increasingly looking to country musicians for inspiration as the current pop scene is terrible. Unfortunately the music producers that ruined other kinds of music are now turning their sites to country (hence the "Has to be good looking, make videos, and use synthisizers instead of musicians" crap that's starting to come out now).
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Couldn't disagree with this more. Country music is just as varied as any other genre and always has been since I've been alive. Country was insanely good a while back, but sold out about the same time as rock and other genres. The good artists that are influenced by country are good because they learn from multiple genres, not because any particular genre is great. If anything I'd say the good music is coming from the folk scene these days. There are tons of artists going back to folk music and doing some good stuff. Or artists with heavy folk influences (the decemberists, for example).
 
?Even these songs probably sounded 10 times better in the studio when we recorded ?em. CDs are small. There?s no stature to it.?
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Well no ****** they sound better in the studio. Lets see, listening to something on multimillion dollar equipment, or Joe Blows boombox from walmart... Dylan needs to stuff it.
 
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
The real music is still out there. Made by relative no names in many cases...at least to our generation. You just got to fish it out.

Three examples of people I know...

Mark Knopfler
Mary Gauthier
John Prine

And dare I say, you can look to many places outside of the USA to find good music.

Hollywood is 95% dog poo.
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What's really wierd is all of the good music is actually coming from the country scene these days. Rock guitarists are increasingly looking to country musicians for inspiration as the current pop scene is terrible. Unfortunately the music producers that ruined other kinds of music are now turning their sites to country (hence the "Has to be good looking, make videos, and use synthisizers instead of musicians" crap that's starting to come out now).
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Country is now influencing "rock guitarists"? Where are you getting this from (cite examples)? Country is horrible IMO aside from some catchy choruses and guitar riffs and I don't see an influence in "rock guitarists". But maybe you know something I don't.

 
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Country is now influencing "rock guitarists"? Where are you getting this from (cite examples)? Country is horrible IMO aside from some catchy choruses and guitar riffs and I don't see an influence in "rock guitarists". But maybe you know something I don't.
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I believe he's thinking of the eagles?
 
as much as i dont' like him hes got a point. Cell phones are not the best way to listen to music in good quality and MP3 player songs are usually compressed so much the quality is dampened. This is being discussed in AV forums honestly.
 
Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Country is now influencing "rock guitarists"? Where are you getting this from (cite examples)? Country is horrible IMO aside from some catchy choruses and guitar riffs and I don't see an influence in "rock guitarists". But maybe you know something I don't.
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I believe he's thinking of the eagles?
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No, OP said "these days" which means modern times. Sure, the Eagles are a good example from the past but certainly aren't modern pop "rock guitarists". I don't see any connection with modern pop rock guitarists such as Fallout Boy/Disturbed/Linkin Park/Korn/Limp Bizkit/Godsmack/System of a Down to country. Maybe Nickelback, I can see a slight resemblence but not enough to say even the majority of their music has a country influence. And certainly not in any of the aforementioned harder stuff...

 
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
No, OP said "these days" which means modern times. Sure, the Eagles are a good example from the past but certainly aren't modern pop "rock guitarists". I don't see any connection with modern pop rock guitarists such as Fallout Boy/Disturbed/Linkin Park/Korn/Limp Bizkit/Godsmack/System of a Down to country. Maybe Nickelback, I can see a slight resemblence but not enough to say even the majority of their music has a country influence. And certainly not in any of the aforementioned harder stuff...
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Maybe he was thinking of eric clapton and bruce springsteen, although their modern stuff isn't exactly country. The only band I can think of that has heavy country influence but is a rock band is My Morning Jacket.

 
Originally posted by: KMFJD
Originally posted by: clamum
People are saying there has been no quality music that will withstand the test of time (20 years+) made in the past decade? Uh. Turn off MTV, for starters.
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MTV plays music?
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Thats what I was wondering. They are more interested in laying crap reality shows all day now of people that need to end theirselves. 😕
 
Originally posted by: fanerman91
Pink Floyd fans ought to look for the Dark Side of the Moon DVD-A bootleg online somewhere. It's a bootleg but it's honestly the best sounding bootleg ever made (originally mixed by Alan Parsons). Some people like it better than the official SA-CD remaster.
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There's also a DTS CD version of Wish You Were Here that I was really happy with as well.
 
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
There's also a DTS CD version of Wish You Were Here that I was really happy with as well.
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The SACD of Dark Side of the Moon is very, very nice. Close to vinyl.
 
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