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slayer202

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if it's true, stupid stupid stupid

Sources: Howard To Play Final Option Year With Magic

Mar 14, 2012 3:58 PM EDT
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Dwight Howard has told teammates and associates that he will play the option year of his contract with the Magic, sources have confirmed.
WFTV initially reported Howard's intentions following a meeting with the Magic.
Howard has not signed the paperwork, but he has told multiple people of his intentions.

 

dougp

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Eh?

They had two GREAT role players last year in Haslem and Miller, but both were injured. That would have been a better, and deeper, Miami team last year if they could play. Coming back on late in the playoffs with little game reps doesn't really count.

This year they added two more solid role players in Battier and Cole. Have you watched a Miami game at all over the last two years? Their second unit is typically Lebron (since he plays more minutes than Wade) running with Haslem, Miller, Battier and Cole. That second unit has speed, can shoot and can defend. Wanna know something else about that second unit? Last year none of those four guys would have been out there on the floor.

Haslem and Miller are both shells of themselves, I said they were good last year but watching them this year, you can tell the lockout effected them. You can read into the Heat however you'd like, I still think they'd be better off with Wade + Bosh and lots of other players who can fill in the positions vs. the team now, or asking the big 3 to take a 2-3mm cut and be able to fill in around them with players that can fill in if one of the big 3 actually get injured for a sustained amount of time. Especially with Wade right now, it'll be interesting to see what the pace of the playoffs will do to him with the physicality. No worries, no one ever agrees with me about the Heat. They won't win the championship this year, even if they make it.
 
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Sources: Howard To Play Final Option Year With Magic

Mar 14, 2012 3:58 PM EDT
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Dwight Howard has told teammates and associates that he will play the option year of his contract with the Magic, sources have confirmed.
WFTV initially reported Howard's intentions following a meeting with the Magic.
Howard has not signed the paperwork, but he has told multiple people of his intentions.


Yessss!!!!!!! DWill to Dallas!!!!!
 

HendrixFan

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Haslem and Miller are both shells of themselves, I said they were good last year but watching them this year, you can tell the lockout effected them.

Any guy in their 30s will be a shell of themselves, and most any notable role player will be an aged veteran that is no longer a star but still has the skills, minus the physical decay. Haslem is doing what he does best, rebounding, at as good of a rate as he has his entire career. His minutes are down, but his rate is as good as ever.

Miller, while not playing a ton of minutes, is shooting the ball as well as he has his entire career. Like Haslem, his rebounding rate is as good as ever as well. Miller is especially not what he used to be, but as a former Olympian, his fall from grace has him down to the level of "role player".

You can read into the Heat however you'd like, I still think they'd be better off with Wade + Bosh and lots of other players who can fill in the positions vs. the team now, or asking the big 3 to take a 2-3mm cut and be able to fill in around them with players that can fill in if one of the big 3 actually get injured for a sustained amount of time. Especially with Wade right now, it'll be interesting to see what the pace of the playoffs will do to him with the physicality.

I know you don't like Lebron, many people don't like him. But to say the Heat would be better taking four quarters for a dollar at the expense of Lebron is odd. He is in the middle of what is statistically the best season any player has ever had in the history of the league. His dominance on both ends of the floor is something to behold, and the blur offense variant the Heat are running is only possible because of his skillset. That is why they held strong with Wade out. I'm pretty sure if Leborn were out, Wade himself couldn't drive the blur offense.

The biggest difference I see with this year's Heat versus last year, even moreso than the extra time to gel, is the depth. Not only is their second unit entirely composed of players that weren't part of their second unit last year, but they fill in for Wade and Lebron. Lebron was logging absurd minutes in the playoffs last year, and not in a good way. They had no real way of taking him out of the game and replacing his minutes. Eddie House? James Jones? This year Miller or Battier can step in and hold the fort down for 8-10 minutes.

No worries, no one ever agrees with me about the Heat. They won't win the championship this year, even if they make it.

They were three baskets away from sweeping the Mavs last year. That is awfully close to a championship, in fact it was one of the closest Finals in a long time. Since then the team has gelled, created an offensive identity and found considerable depth. If all those things aren't worth 3 more baskets in the grand scheme of things, then I don't know what else they can do.

It isn't like the Bulls did anything at all to better match up with the Heat. OKC is almost a mirror of the Heat in that they have their big three and a bunch of pieces after them, that can only amplify what the big three do, but never stand on their own.
 
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I don't see the issue. He's giving the hometown team a chance to pull it together. Rumor I heard is the magic are trying to acquire Josh Smith.

Also the best news of the day is DWill to Dallas. 2013. :biggrin:
 

HendrixFan

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I don't see the issue. He's giving the hometown team a chance to pull it together. Rumor I heard is the magic are trying to acquire Josh Smith.

Also the best news of the day is DWill to Dallas. 2013. :biggrin:

True that.

Who else to the Mavs look to pick up if not Howard?
 

Gibsons

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I don't see the issue. He's giving the hometown team a chance to pull it together. Rumor I heard is the magic are trying to acquire Josh Smith.

Also the best news of the day is DWill to Dallas. 2013. :biggrin:

If Dallas is somehow able to get Dwill and D Howard, along with Dirk... :eek:
 

HendrixFan

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If Dallas is somehow able to get Dwill and D Howard, along with Dirk... :eek:

That is what Cuban is aiming for. With Terry and Kidd expiring, not re-signing Chandler or Barea, they are just a Marion trade away from having the cap space for Howard and DWill to play alongside an aging yet ageless Dirk.

I'd love to see it.
 
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That is what Cuban is aiming for. With Terry and Kidd expiring, not re-signing Chandler or Barea, they are just a Marion trade away from having the cap space for Howard and DWill to play alongside an aging yet ageless Dirk.

I'd love to see it.

I'll f'n go crazy if we can get Triple D in Big D. They will win not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7, not 8 championships...rofl.
 

HendrixFan

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I'll f'n go crazy if we can get Triple D in Big D. They will win not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7, not 8 championships...rofl.

I'd honestly be most anxious to see what a top tier coach like Carlisle would do with a raw and untapped talent like Howard.
 

NeoV

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no way he doesn't opt out after this season - I have to believe the Magic brain-trust is being fitted for padded jackets right now..

As for the LeBron hater - wow, just wow. He's having, as a poster said before - quite possibly the best regular season anyone has ever had not named Wilt Chamberlin.

He was money in the playoffs other than the Dallas series, if he plays even a bit better in the finals they win.
 
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Sources: Howard To Play Final Option Year With Magic

Mar 14, 2012 3:58 PM EDT

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Dwight Howard has told teammates and associates that he will play the option year of his contract with the Magic, sources have confirmed.
WFTV initially reported Howard's intentions following a meeting with the Magic.
Howard has not signed the paperwork, but he has told multiple people of his intentions.


Wow. Didn't see that coming.

No doubt there's a lot of "fuckity-fuck-fucks" being emitted by fans of a few NBA teams who thought they might be contenders come next season.
 

dougp

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Wow. Didn't see that coming.

No doubt there's a lot of "fuckity-fuck-fucks" being emitted by fans of a few NBA teams who thought they might be contenders come next season.

Looks like conflicting reports.

Report: Skeptical Magic give Howard end-of-day ultimatum - http://www.nba.com/2012/news/03/14/magic-howard-papers/index.html?rss=true

vs.

Sources: Howard won't opt out - http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7686147/sources-orlando-magic-dwight-howard-opt-end-season
 

slayer202

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Howard Informs Magic He Won't Surrender Option

Mar 14, 2012 8:27 PM EDT
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Dwight Howard has told the Magic that he will not surrender his option to become a free agent following the season, according to sources.
Howard told the Magic that staying with the franchise is his first choice, according to a source.
Multiple reports earlier on Wednesday indicated that Howard agreed to formally opt-in for the 12-13 season.
But Howard and agent Dan Fegan clarified their position during a conference call with Alex Martins, Rich De Vos and other members of the DeVos family.
Howard "didn't fully understand the ramifications" of surrendering his ETO, according to a source, and did so because the Magic threatened to trade him before the deadline if he didn't make that commitment.



Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wireta..._Magic_He_Wont_Surrender_Option#ixzz1p8oRm1KV



Lol, this should be interesting...
 

QueBert

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I'll take that bet. I'll go for just about as much as you want. Feel free to pm me

Well I don't know you, and I'm sure you don't live anywhere close to me, but if you have Paypal we could figure something out. I've never bet a person online so it's kind of sketchy how it would work. But I'm definitely interested in coming up with a bet here. Anyone have any ideas how the best way to go about this?
 

slayer202

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Well I don't know you, and I'm sure you don't live anywhere close to me, but if you have Paypal we could figure something out. I've never bet a person online so it's kind of sketchy how it would work. But I'm definitely interested in coming up with a bet here. Anyone have any ideas how the best way to go about this?

Paypal indeed. I'm guessing the only reasonable way would be a third party holding the money. We could perhaps both send in the agreed amount at the start of the playoffs so we aren't out that money for as long. If you have something else in mind I'm all ears
 

RiDE

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Does anybody else think this is embarassing for everybody involved? I guess it's the norm these days. The Indecision indeed...
 

dougp

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Paypal indeed. I'm guessing the only reasonable way would be a third party holding the money. We could perhaps both send in the agreed amount at the start of the playoffs so we aren't out that money for as long. If you have something else in mind I'm all ears

I'll be happy to hold on to that cash if you two are up for it. That, or KT. :)
 
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Looks like conflicting reports.

Report: Skeptical Magic give Howard end-of-day ultimatum - http://www.nba.com/2012/news/03/14/magic-howard-papers/index.html?rss=true

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Sources: Howard won't opt out - http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7686147/sources-orlando-magic-dwight-howard-opt-end-season
What a shame because now nothing other than surrendering his opt-out clause for 2013 will salvage Dwight's rep. It seems Dwight is letting his agent pull the strings and allowing his good name to go down the tubes in the process.
 
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NeoV

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yah, this is a kid letting other people pull the strings

at least with LeBron he wasn't going back and forth like this - he said all along he was going to become a free agent
 

slayer202

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and we're back...

Dwight Howard Admits Mistakes, Plans To Opt-In

Mar 15, 2012 3:37 AM EDT
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With the trade deadline a few hours away, nobody had any idea what Dwight Howard was planning to do. Much of that uncertainty was the result of Howard's ever-changing mind.

After informing the Magic he would opt-in and delay his free agency on Wednesday, Howard changed his mind before playing the Spurs and looked to be on his way out of Orlando.
Both the organization and fans were upset with Howard's actions as it seemed he was trying to manipulate his way to the New Jersey Nets. In the process, he appeared to have relinquished control of his future to agents and advisers that are believed to be pushing him to a larger market.

Howard, however, finally had enough and decided to set the record straight.

Howard confirmed to RealGM on Wednesday evening that he will terminate his early termination option and stay in Orlando for at least the 12-13 season.

Howard also realizes the impact that his indecision has caused and wants to make things right in the city that has watched him grow both professionally and personally since he came into the NBA in 2004 as the first overall pick.

"Man, listen, you know my heart, my soul and everything I have is in Orlando," Howard told RealGM. "I just can't leave it behind."

Dealing with such a big decision was new territory for Howard.

To help with the process he sought advice from people he believed had his best interest in mind. All the while, his heart remained in Orlando. While he wanted to keep his options open, Howard's intentions were never to alienate his teammates, coaches or general manager.
The circumstances, however, spiraled out of control and turned into something he never wanted to happen. Howard was very remorseful for the situation that he created, but eager to turn it around and show everyone who has been hurt by his actions how much he appreciates them and how sorry he is for Wednesday’s events.

"I have gotten some bad advice," Howard said. "I apologize for this circus I have caused to the fans of our city. They didn't deserve none of this. I'm sorry from the bottom of my heart. I will do whatever I can to make this right and do what I was put in Orlando to do."

The situation has also been stressful for Howard and his family, but he isn't thinking of making any excuses or point any fingers. Howard only wants to get back to being the man Orlando grew to love and cheer for.

"This has been a very hard time," Howard said. "For me, my family and all of us. The fans deserve a better hero and I will make that happen. I love and appreciate my fans and this city."

Howard said that he plans on signing the ETO waiver first thing on Thursday morning. He also plans on making some internal changes to ensure this situation isn't repeated in the future.




Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...Admits_Mistakes_Plans_To_Opt_In#ixzz1pBHkhRft
 
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I just heard on espn reported by Stephen A Smith that he wasn't signing it and would be traded by 3pm today. :confused: