DVD2SVCD ripping/encoding time?

[Xuttah]

Hi all,

I'm in the middle of my first DVD-to-SVCD conversion. So far, things seem to be going smoothly (no errors). However, I was wondering if there was an "average" or "typical" time from start-to-finish? I started the conversion at 4:00 today. It's a little after 8:00 now, and TMPGEnc tells me there's another 16 hours to go! This is after many many 15-minute encoding cycles. BTW, you may already realize I have no idea what I'm talking about. Don't know what TMPGEnc was doing, but it had several iterations and took approx 15-minutes each. Also, I left pretty much everything on default.

I'm running a P3 1Ghz w/ 512MB of memory. My video card is an ATI Radeon 64MB, though I don't think it has a huge bearing on MPEG encoding performance.

Thanks!

 

[Doh!]

I wouldn't worry too much about the encoding time. It's not unusual for the encoding process to take a full day. Upgrading the cpu will reduce the encoding time though.

 

[Antisocial Virge]

TMPGEnc is also slower than CCE when it comes to encoding. I use a 2.5 Ghz machine and it takes maybe 5 hours.

 

[Dulanic]

Aye I use CCE, I just finished a 95 minute movie and I did 4 pass VBR and it took about 4:30 to encode. This is with a Athlon XP @ 1.81Ghz

 

[AnMig]

I used to use tmgenc but I would occasionally have voice sync problems now I mainly use cce.

It takes me 6-7 hours depending on th lenght of movie. I usually leave the settings at default except for the destination folder and cdr size.

Do you guys have any suggestions in changing the default settings? to improve the picture quality "4 pass VBR"?


I still would occasionally have some problems with the cd image size 850mb and need to start over.

 

[Dulanic]

Well there are a few things I use or dont use... first I don't use 48.1->44.1 downsizing... as long as your player supports 48.1 there is no reason to do it it just increases encoding time. I also prefer to use CCE 2.5. Also update to the latest version if you havent. I use 1 80min CDR for every hour of the movie... as long as you do the encoding at 16:9 (encoded at 4:3, borders added) because then it doesnt have to encode the black lines... it just encodes the movie and adds the black lines after... spends all the bitrate on the actual video.

I also check "Use Frame Selection" and cut out the credits.... when I do that it seems to unfortunetely mess up and not fit it on a 80min CDR... but its usually only a minute over so I just overburn it and it still work.

I also use these 2 plugins... http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=6c28373ff4a2ba5eee4fb86d00a17ecd&threadid=44445

The first one AutoFitCD will take ONLY the video and encode it and then add the borders... again can save a little encoding and give you a higher bitrate because most movies arent EXACTLY DVD resolution... It also cuts off a few pixels on each side because a TV never shows the full image... so why encode them and waste more bitrate? If you watch them on TV this is a great feature... To use this install it, and just put fitcd.exe in a any folder. Go to frameserve, and choose AutoFitCD Detect Borders... then go to conversion and choose preview in the Go button.... flip through a few frames and select one that selects the whole image... dark images can throw it off so just press New Frame. Then press the AutoFitCD button.... what it sets is usually great for me... but if you want to adjust something you can.


The second one D2SCCD will make the change CD picture the last frame of the CD and it will add whatever text overlayed on it... like Insert Disk 2. This plugin pops up options once then thats all you need.... it doesnt show up in DVD2SVCD itself but it will still do its job, just leave ChangeCD Pic checked and leave it as whatever it doesnt matter, it will override it. It will also make the title image better quality... for my title image I go to amazon.com and get the DVD cover image.... download it... resize it to 430 height (TV cuts off alot of the top and bottom pixels so if you do 480 height itll cut part of it off on your TV)... I then make a new image with a black background at 640x480.... cut the image I resized to 430 height and paste it on the black background.

 

[AnMig]

Well there are a few things I use or dont use... first I don't use 48.1->44.1 downsizing... as long as your player supports 48.1 there is no reason to do it it just increases encoding time. I also prefer to use CCE 2.5. Also update to the latest version if you havent. I use 1 80min CDR for every hour of the movie... as long as you do the encoding at 16:9 (encoded at 4:3, borders added) because then it doesnt have to encode the black lines... it just encodes the movie and adds the black lines after... spends all the bitrate on the actual video.

Thanks a lot for the tips, I am more or less light dvd2svcd user maybe 2-3 dvds a month, and never bothered to research how to tweak the program to get a better picture and a faster encoding time.

will try out your tips

by not downsizing the audio wont this use up more space for the audio or is the space saved by downsizing negligble

 

[Dulanic]

Bit rate is bit rate for audio.... 192Kb/sec audio is gonna take just that.... 192Kb/sec 48.1 or 44.1 wont matter itll be the same size.

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: Dulanic
Well there are a few things I use or dont use... first I don't use 48.1->44.1 downsizing... as long as your player supports 48.1 there is no reason to do it it just increases encoding time. I also prefer to use CCE 2.5. Also update to the latest version if you havent. I use 1 80min CDR for every hour of the movie... as long as you do the encoding at 16:9 (encoded at 4:3, borders added) because then it doesnt have to encode the black lines... it just encodes the movie and adds the black lines after... spends all the bitrate on the actual video.

I also check "Use Frame Selection" and cut out the credits.... when I do that it seems to unfortunetely mess up and not fit it on a 80min CDR... but its usually only a minute over so I just overburn it and it still work.

I also use these 2 plugins... http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=6c28373ff4a2ba5eee4fb86d00a17ecd&threadid=44445

The first one AutoFitCD will take ONLY the video and encode it and then add the borders... again can save a little encoding and give you a higher bitrate because most movies arent EXACTLY DVD resolution... It also cuts off a few pixels on each side because a TV never shows the full image... so why encode them and waste more bitrate? If you watch them on TV this is a great feature... To use this install it, and just put fitcd.exe in a any folder. Go to frameserve, and choose AutoFitCD Detect Borders... then go to conversion and choose preview in the Go button.... flip through a few frames and select one that selects the whole image... dark images can throw it off so just press New Frame. Then press the AutoFitCD button.... what it sets is usually great for me... but if you want to adjust something you can.


The second one D2SCCD will make the change CD picture the last frame of the CD and it will add whatever text overlayed on it... like Insert Disk 2. This plugin pops up options once then thats all you need.... it doesnt show up in DVD2SVCD itself but it will still do its job, just leave ChangeCD Pic checked and leave it as whatever it doesnt matter, it will override it. It will also make the title image better quality... for my title image I go to amazon.com and get the DVD cover image.... download it... resize it to 430 height (TV cuts off alot of the top and bottom pixels so if you do 480 height itll cut part of it off on your TV)... I then make a new image with a black background at 640x480.... cut the image I resized to 430 height and paste it on the black background.

Thanks for the great advice Dulanic.

I apreciate it.