25 DVD-R for $39.50 Store called supermediastore.com. Same brand as meritline sells for $49.50/25 which works great in my A03, in fact the Paypal bill came from meritline so don't know what the deal is. Shipping was $4.52, and tax in CA.
DVD-R media costs dropping faster than Pam Anderson's pants! $1.58
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I'm not sure you could buy a A03 since they have been replaced by the 104/A04. Most places are out of stock. The 104/A04 is about the same price and has burnproof and better CD-R compatibility.
One thing about the meritline DVD-R media, it is not certified by Pioneer so you can only burn it at 1x, not 2x like some other way more expensive brands.
One thing about the meritline DVD-R media, it is not certified by Pioneer so you can only burn it at 1x, not 2x like some other way more expensive brands.
WTF?!?!? $1.58 for Pam Anderson's panties? Hellz yeah, I am all about that deal!
What? Not panties? DVD-R? Never mind...
What? Not panties? DVD-R? Never mind...
I'm not surprised with the price drop of DVD-R since it is not compatible with most DVD player or DVD-ROM drive, while the new DVD+RW is.
are the 1st generations of cheap dvd-r media like the 1st generation of cdrs that
were total crap and flake, chip, and get holes in them after like a few months.
were total crap and flake, chip, and get holes in them after like a few months.
'you get what you pay for' when you buy DVD-R media like this.
agreeing with kindest, these DVD-R media are the crap-de-le-crap.
Expect failed burns, flaking, chipping, and they probably smell too.
agreeing with mcdull, also true. dvd-r media pretty much only works
in the drive you burnt it with. the compatability blows.
If you want good quality dvd recordable media, try www.apple.com
$25 gets you a 5-pack of the best quality media around. they have free shipping too.
agreeing with kindest, these DVD-R media are the crap-de-le-crap.
Expect failed burns, flaking, chipping, and they probably smell too.
agreeing with mcdull, also true. dvd-r media pretty much only works
in the drive you burnt it with. the compatability blows.
If you want good quality dvd recordable media, try www.apple.com
$25 gets you a 5-pack of the best quality media around. they have free shipping too.
DVD-R is the format that is most compatible with home DVD decks,
followed by DVD-RW, with DVD+RW in last place. The compatiblity of the
new DVD+R format has yet to be determined. To see for yourself visit
www.vcdhelp.com.
(My 104 is arriving today, so this is a timely deal!)
followed by DVD-RW, with DVD+RW in last place. The compatiblity of the
new DVD+R format has yet to be determined. To see for yourself visit
www.vcdhelp.com.
(My 104 is arriving today, so this is a timely deal!)
<< "I'm not surprised with the price drop of DVD-R since it is not compatible with most DVD player or DVD-ROM drive, while the new DVD+RW is." >>
That doesn't seem to be the case. See, for example, the current issue of "Videomaker". While it is possible that compatibility will increase as new models of consumer players and dvd-rom drives come out, for current generation DVD-R/DVD-RW appears to be more compatible. That was one of the reasons I went with the technology after doing research on relative merits of each competitor. The other reason was how people who bought the first generation DVD+RW drives were screwed over by the manufacturers who promised BIOS upgrades to +R and failed to deliver.
I suspect that the true reason for the pricedrop is commodification of the technology. The price premium of the cutting edge is disappearing with DVD-R/-RW. That said, people looking for faster random access and less concerned about consumer player compatibility (DVD-ROM drives seem to read pretty much everything tossed at them) are probably better off with DVD+RW since those drives have the edge on drive performance at the moment.
for those of you dissin on DVD-R, get your facts straight...just as someone mentioned, DVD-R is the MOST compatible format - the flakey format is DVD+R/W. The main reason I think DVD-R will end up being the victor in the formats war: DVD-R can be read in PS2's and DVD+R or DVD+RW can NOT be read in em. Why's that important you ask? Well, just like people used to mod their playstations, people mod their ps2's (and you all know why).
about the media being crappy, i'd have to agree...the only generic media i've had success with is the one circuit city had for free after rebate a few weeks ago...otherwise I just buy from apple @ $5 a pop.
about the media being crappy, i'd have to agree...the only generic media i've had success with is the one circuit city had for free after rebate a few weeks ago...otherwise I just buy from apple @ $5 a pop.
Having owned both the HP DVD100i and now the Pioneer DVR-104, I can say from my own experiences that the DVR-R format provides the best compatibility amongst set top dvd players right now. Of course that will probably change as time goes by but if people want the most compatibility, I'd have to say DVD-R wins out and not DVD+R/W. There's definitely not enough info on DVD+R right now so that's an unknown. I have no idea personally though how these cheap DVD-R media perform so I guess your mileage will vary
From recent experience. Pioneer DVR-104 + generic DVD-R media + DVD authoring software = DVD with chapters that plays in my 3 year old Sony bottom-of-the line home theatre DVD player perfectly. If it will play in a 3 year old Sony, It should play in almost anything! A testament to the compatability of DVD-R!!
<< I'm not surprised with the price drop of DVD-R since it is not compatible with most DVD player or DVD-ROM drive, while the new DVD+RW is. >>
What in the hel* have you been smoking? You got it backwards! I have 7 dvd players...even a 1st gen Apex and it plays my dvd-r just fine. Wow.....
<< Microsoft to back DVD+RW
DVD-R lovers...put that in your pipe and smoke it......heh...
>>Hehe,,,yep, by the time the next MS OS comes out with dvd+rw support, I will probably have upgraded my dvd-r 2 times. Who cares? Do you even own a dvd+rw?
Also.. who cares if msft supports dvd+rw in the OS? How many people out there actually use the built in CD RW technology in Windows XP to burn stuff? I don't know anyone who does. Most people either use EZ CD or Nero etc...
So unless MSFT plans on coming out with an iDVD lookalike.. it won't matter reallyif DVD+RW is supported in the OS as long as there are compelling apps out there that support both standards. Don't get me wrong but I also do believe that DVD+R/W is the "better" technology.. BUT, it also stands that here and now, DVD-R is the most compatible. Sure things will change probably when DVD+R comes out but no one knows if the higher reflectivity of the media will make a difference in compatibility.
In any event, i don't personally think sponsored support in XP will make a difference. What will ultimately drive either standard will be price/compatibility. IMHO
So unless MSFT plans on coming out with an iDVD lookalike.. it won't matter reallyif DVD+RW is supported in the OS as long as there are compelling apps out there that support both standards. Don't get me wrong but I also do believe that DVD+R/W is the "better" technology.. BUT, it also stands that here and now, DVD-R is the most compatible. Sure things will change probably when DVD+R comes out but no one knows if the higher reflectivity of the media will make a difference in compatibility.
In any event, i don't personally think sponsored support in XP will make a difference. What will ultimately drive either standard will be price/compatibility. IMHO
flungster: The more money/development/endorsements the DVD+RW project gets from the corporate world, the better the chance it will survive. You can obviously see the logic in that. I'd write more, but I have to get back to work....later.....
The DVD+R/RW format is like beta. Maybe technologically superior, but it is being outsold by DVD-R by at least 50:1 so it won't survive. The DVD+RW blanks are still over $10 each!!!
On the topic of cheap DVD-Rs, I have a Pioneer A03 and a standalone Panasonic E20 DVD recorder. The A03 will burn anything I put in it (at 1x). The E20 is much pickier and the Meritlines and CD-Recordables don't work. Apples work fine.
By the way, if you are only interested in archiving VHS/DV or TIVO stuff, I would highly recommend the E20. It makes the process of archiving idiot-proof. You can't do much editing (record/pause), but the quality, speed, and ease of archiving is amazing!!!
right, it's DVD-R now, but looking two to three years down the road it could very well be DVD+R.
just depends on what your time frame is i guess.
just depends on what your time frame is i guess.
badluck: i do agree that there area good number of DVD+RW vendors out there such as Sony, HP and Phillips and some others. I'm not disagreeing with the merits of DVD+R/RW but what I am saying is that for the here and now, if I would want to create DVD videos that will be compatible with the most players out there, then I would opt for a DVD-R drive like the DVR-AO3/4 . The DVD100i drive that I own from HP was good (really a Ricoh drive like all the other DVD+RW drives out there) but compatibility suffered. Anyways, all this is moot because most of us will get new drives every few yrs anyhow. It's really about what works for a person here and now. Whenever DVD+R proves it's worth, i'm sure that I'll switch but for now, DVD-R is my choice
according to pioneer, the a03 has burnproof capability.
the differences in the a03/a04 is increased cdread speed, and horizontal mounting.
the differences in the a03/a04 is increased cdread speed, and horizontal mounting.
according to pioneer, the a03 has burnproof capability.
Unsped, are you sure about that? I couldn't find it anywhere on the pioneer site.
Unsped, are you sure about that? I couldn't find it anywhere on the pioneer site.
On DVD+ and DVD- wars, HP hurt the + cause by stating that the HP DVD100i DVD+RW model would support DVD+R with a firmware release, then backing out on there promise. DVD+R may be superior when it comes out, but Pioneer had one heck of a head start with the DVD-R.
And my A03 works just great under Windows, no matter what MS says or does.
And my A03 works just great under Windows, no matter what MS says or does.
Yup.. HP shot themselves in the foot with the whole upgrade fiasco on the drives. I suspect that all the Ricoh drives are like that. Heh. In any case, HP is going to offer a 99 dollar upgrade to those who have DVD100i drives so I might pursue that option with my DVD100i drive. But honestly, I'm thrilled with my A04 drive.
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