Dungeon Seige II Hands-On!

[dsfunk]

I played the first one for about 6 months, and then one day I realized it was boring. I played the beta for this one last night. There is more dialogue and voice acting in this one. There might even be a story. The gameplay is the same old boring crap as the original. I stopped after an hour, and will pass on the game unless they make a lot of changes. The graphics look the same as the first to me. They were very good a few years ago, but I'm not that impressed with them now. It feels like an expansion pack to me, although they did change the leveling a bit to use skill point type stuff. You still level your melee, archery, combat or nature magic the same way.

 

[Malladine]

Originally posted by: dsfunk
I played the first one for about 6 months, and then one day I realized it was boring. I played the beta for this one last night. There is more dialogue and voice acting in this one. There might even be a story. The gameplay is the same old boring crap as the original. I stopped after an hour, and will pass on the game unless they make a lot of changes. The graphics look the same as the first to me. They were very good a few years ago, but I'm not that impressed with them now. It feels like an expansion pack to me, although they did change the leveling a bit to use skill point type stuff. You still level your melee, archery, combat or nature magic the same way.

blah

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: whitecloak

Originally posted by: WT
I absolutely loved DS. Noticing it was affiliated with MS< I dismissed it as trash, but tried the demo and couldn't stop playing. You guys that have played RPGs for years need to remember that we all have to start somewhere, and if DS brings more players into the RPG realm, then you have more servers and more players to breathe life into other, more advanced RPGs as well. I bouht BG:II after finishing DS and HATED it ... played it a few hours until I got locked up at one point, and tossed it in the closet.

you liked DS and hated BG2???

Dungeon Siege is a completely different game than BG2.
I like both. It gets stale playing all those "deep" computer games for days at a time.
Sometimes I just need to kill things pointlessly.
Some first person shooters are like that. Some are a little too involved. (HL2, Far Cry.)

But with Dungeon siege and Diablo 2, you can feel like you're making progress with your mayhem. I will aquire a legit copy when it comes out. I trust Gas Powered Games that much.

 

[skace]

I played the beta of this this weekend and didn't stop playing until it said "Thank you for playing the beta!". So yea, I enjoyed it . I'm not exactly sure why I enjoyed it, it just seemed so damned polished. Although, the skill tree for a ranger looked rather limiting.

 

[Ryland]

I saw DSII at GenCon last year and it looked great. I liked the first games idea of "no loading screens" and found most of the combat pretty easy (which is sometimes a good idea after a long day). BG2 was fun also but I don't remember if I actually finished it (although I do remember getting into a battle and just kept clicking on "Monster Summoningg" wands until my machine slowed to a crawl...

 

[Malladine]

Originally posted by: skace
I played the beta of this this weekend and didn't stop playing until it said "Thank you for playing the beta!". So yea, I enjoyed it . I'm not exactly sure why I enjoyed it, it just seemed so damned polished. Although, the skill tree for a ranger looked rather limiting.

Well cool, but then you said you thought dungeon lords was alright and i thought it was a complete sham...but that could have just been the fact there were so many buggy issues and the control system sucked to high heaven

 

[WT]

I downloaded the public beta last night and it REQUIRED Win XP .. bah, no need for that, so I just indicated that I WAS running XP and D/L'd away. I'm runing W2K and I'm quite happy with it, thank you very much. No idea if it would work or not, but I love the game and sure enough, it ran fine this morning after I unzipped it. Yet another MS product almost forcing you to buy their lovely OS. Anyhoo, I didn't get any time to quest, but what I saw was a graphics engine that looked MUCH better in those verrry early screenshots. Anyone that saw them and compares them to the demo screenies will see how quickly a graphics engine can age. Regardless, I will buy this game and play the crap out of it. Now, here's hoping MS doesn't force an OS upgrade in the calendar year just to play a damn game.

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: Malladine

Originally posted by: skace
I played the beta of this this weekend and didn't stop playing until it said "Thank you for playing the beta!". So yea, I enjoyed it . I'm not exactly sure why I enjoyed it, it just seemed so damned polished. Although, the skill tree for a ranger looked rather limiting.

Well cool, but then you said you thought dungeon lords was alright and i thought it was a complete sham...but that could have just been the fact there were so many buggy issues and the control system sucked to high heaven

Dungeon Lords was insultingly hillarious. I remember as I played it saying to myself "there is no way it could be this bad, this town must be a joke... I'll keep going". But the combat kept me playing the game because it was more involved than other games such as Morrowind, sadly enough.

Hey WT, I have W2K and also lied on that question, haha.

 

[RaiderJ]

They've turned it into a clickfest? Blah - that's what I liked about the first one, you could just sit back and watch the battles.

 

[Sentrosi2121]

I enjoyed DS1 and Legends of Arranna. It is best enjoyed with a core group of friends when you go online. Had a lot of fun with the Pimp Hat level in DS1/LoA. After burning myself out on WoW, this looks like it is going to be fun.

 

[Nebor]

All these Diablo style games are just silly. I have Dungeon Siege 1. You just click... and click... and click... What's the point? Boring.

 

[Powermoloch]

I'm done with MMORPG , god damn it. The first one is Diablo II and the LoD expansion pack. It was really addicting (even now, althouth didn't play it for 2 years). Gotta move on to college anyways

 

[Vampirrella]

Ive been playing dsII for a few hours now (got an early retail copy of the game in today) and im finding that saving the game is total crud.

After spending time, (a loong time) killing those Hak'u tribe creature thingies in their cave, i "saved" the game and exited out to take a break. So now im ready to play again and i load up the game again only to find myself way back at the town portal in Eirulan!

Why cant you just save the game and then continue on the SAME spot you last were at?! Makes no sense to me. Now you have to teleport and run way the hell back to where you were and sometimes have to fight certain random groups or beasts all over again. (there is no real respawn but sometimes a random group of monsters/beasts will wander again and if its in your path you will have to fight them again. Just frustrating.

Overall, my first impression of the game is pretty decent. The graphics are still kind of blah/ the same-looking, and the clickfest is still there (yay for right-click and HOLD), but i like the story line so far!

 

[Azzkikur]

Originally posted by: Vampirrella
Ive been playing dsII for a few hours now (got an early retail copy of the game in today) and im finding that saving the game is total crud.

After spending time, (a loong time) killing those Hak'u tribe creature thingies in their cave, i "saved" the game and exited out to take a break. So now im ready to play again and i load up the game again only to find myself way back at the town portal in Eirulan!

Why cant you just save the game and then continue on the SAME spot you last were at?! Makes no sense to me. Now you have to teleport and run way the hell back to where you were and sometimes have to fight certain random groups or beasts all over again. (there is no real respawn but sometimes a random group of monsters/beasts will wander again and if its in your path you will have to fight them again. Just frustrating.

Overall, my first impression of the game is pretty decent. The graphics are still kind of blah/ the same-looking, and the clickfest is still there (yay for right-click and HOLD), but i like the story line so far!

I've also got an early full copy, and will try it sometime this weekend.

 

[deadseasquirrel]

My son's been playing the demo and has some questions--

Will he be able to carry over his character to the full version?
Will he be able to have his main character to play single player, yet create a new char to play coop with me and keep both of them? If not, can he use his single player char with me in coop multi? How does that work?

 

[Malladine]

Originally posted by: deadseasquirrel
My son's been playing the demo and has some questions--

Will he be able to carry over his character to the full version?
Will he be able to have his main character to play single player, yet create a new char to play coop with me and keep both of them? If not, can he use his single player char with me in coop multi? How does that work?

Usually not and yes multiple characters are allowed or he could just use his single player character (import to multiplayer or whatever). I'm sure that's the same as in DS1.

 

[Vampirrella]

i havent played the demo.. how far does the demo let you play anyways? I have gotten my party past the Ancient elven shrine and am working on chapter 5, Act 1

And no, usually the full game will not allow you to continue a character made in a demo. Im looking thru the main menus and see no method of char import from demo possible.

 

[deadseasquirrel]

The demo takes you through the Shrine. It ends pretty much right after that.

So, my son would be able to take his char from single play and import to a multi game where i have a new char at 0 and he has his single player at say level 8. Would he then have all further equip and upgrades that he gets multi with me back in his single player game or are the chars kept separate?

 

[Xyclone]

I played the demo, I probably wont buy it, too much of a D2 clone.

 

[Yreka]

Is there a co-op mode in the demo ?

 

[wfbberzerker]

Originally posted by: Vampirrella
Ive been playing dsII for a few hours now (got an early retail copy of the game in today) and im finding that saving the game is total crud.

After spending time, (a loong time) killing those Hak'u tribe creature thingies in their cave, i "saved" the game and exited out to take a break. So now im ready to play again and i load up the game again only to find myself way back at the town portal in Eirulan!

Why cant you just save the game and then continue on the SAME spot you last were at?! Makes no sense to me. Now you have to teleport and run way the hell back to where you were and sometimes have to fight certain random groups or beasts all over again. (there is no real respawn but sometimes a random group of monsters/beasts will wander again and if its in your path you will have to fight them again. Just frustrating.

Overall, my first impression of the game is pretty decent. The graphics are still kind of blah/ the same-looking, and the clickfest is still there (yay for right-click and HOLD), but i like the story line so far!

its like they turned it into the diablo 2 save.

 

[networkman]

Originally posted by: Vampirrella
Ive been playing dsII for a few hours now (got an early retail copy of the game in today) and im finding that saving the game is total crud.

After spending time, (a loong time) killing those Hak'u tribe creature thingies in their cave, i "saved" the game and exited out to take a break. So now im ready to play again and i load up the game again only to find myself way back at the town portal in Eirulan!

Why cant you just save the game and then continue on the SAME spot you last were at?! Makes no sense to me. Now you have to teleport and run way the hell back to where you were and sometimes have to fight certain random groups or beasts all over again. (there is no real respawn but sometimes a random group of monsters/beasts will wander again and if its in your path you will have to fight them again. Just frustrating.

Overall, my first impression of the game is pretty decent. The graphics are still kind of blah/ the same-looking, and the clickfest is still there (yay for right-click and HOLD), but i like the story line so far!

I didn't get an early copy, I bought mine on the 16th when it was supposed to be on the shelves. Anyway, after installing it, but before starting to play it, I figured maybe I should check to see if there were any patches available(knowing Microsoft the way I do), and lo and behold, there was indeed a DS2 2.1 patch available! A 6meg download to fix what? Corrupted multi-player save game issues.

 

[ZippyDSM]

Oh come on Diablo 2 has charaecterless charaecters as well the main diffreance between D2 and DS is D2 has nice moives for each ACT and has endless enimes to kill DS you have to pick a class and stay with it, whitch can be annoying ,and please Sacred is more a clone han DS2,I liked the frist one desipte its faults and am loveing the second one its not perfect but no game is.
Also you can set your selected charaecter on auto attack! I miss the full attack/defend script fpr your party like in DS 1