Dumbest Thing I've Heard All Day

[Gigantopithecus]

You think that's bad, consider the number of physicians who don't accept evolution. It's a far higher number than those who don't accept the germ theory of disease.

 

[Bignate603]

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus
You think that's bad, consider the number of physicians who don't accept evolution. It's a far higher number than those who don't accept the germ theory of disease.

Not accepting evolution is much less likely to kill a patient. My doctor can believe whatever he wants if it doesn't change the care he gives me. Not believing in germ theory is pretty likely to change how he would treat disease.

 

[Iron Woode]

Originally posted by: Bignate603

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus
You think that's bad, consider the number of physicians who don't accept evolution. It's a far higher number than those who don't accept the germ theory of disease.

Not accepting evolution is much less likely to kill a patient. My doctor can believe whatever he wants if it doesn't change the care he gives me. Not believing in germ theory is pretty likely to change how he would treat disease.

yes, lots of prayer will cure that necrotizing fasciitus.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: ahenkel
The odd thing about this is I never knew it was only a Theory. I did a bit o googlin' and came up with this

http://www.associatedcontent.c...of_the_germ.html?cat=5 (claims when we eat acidic foods it makes us sick)

People are weird.

Many people are resistant to considering the fallacy in the Germ Theory.

I can't figure out where in the article this alleged fallacy is.

 

[IronWing]

Germs don't kill people. Disgusting, filthy people with germs kill people.

 

[FuzzyDunlop]

I thought the Germ Theory was that "Specific Germs cause Specific Illnesses".

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus
You think that's bad, consider the number of physicians who don't accept evolution. It's a far higher number than those who don't accept the germ theory of disease.

it's easier to believe that germs cause illness than it is to believe in evolution, which is why i was so taken aback when i overheard the convo.

if i heard one doctor arguing evolution with the other doctor, i'd just figure him to be a religious nut who did well enough in school to become a doctor to help people (regardless of what created them).

to not believe in germ theory (especially for a medical doctor, of all people) = .... i can't even think of how to describe it
to not believe in evolution = acceptable, considering how this is the united states and people here have jesus shoved so high up their asses it's insane

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus
You think that's bad, consider the number of physicians who don't accept evolution. It's a far higher number than those who don't accept the germ theory of disease.

Proof that we evolved from single celled organisms please.

Watching things adapt to their surroundings doesn't immediately imply the theory of evolution is valid at all. I'm not arguing for any other theory, but your statement is beyond stupid.

to not believe in evolution = acceptable, considering how this is the united states and people here have jesus shoved so high up their asses it's insane

Proof that they are wrong and you are right please.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus
You think that's bad, consider the number of physicians who don't accept evolution. It's a far higher number than those who don't accept the germ theory of disease.

Proof that we evolved from single celled organisms please.

Watching things adapt to their surroundings doesn't immediately imply the theory of evolution is valid at all. I'm not arguing for any other theory, but your statement is beyond stupid.

to not believe in evolution = acceptable, considering how this is the united states and people here have jesus shoved so high up their asses it's insane

Proof that they are wrong and you are right please.

you're joking, right?

why not ask God to prove himself to you by giving you something? because you can't prove or disprove God's existence. either way, the existence of God is not mutually exclusive with evolution.

i, personally, believe in God, but i sure as shit don't believe in religion or creationism. genetic mutations are what caused evolution over billions of years.

what came first? the chicken or the egg? well, personally, i think the egg gave rise to a pre-chicken-fowl mutant, which passed its genes off to create today's chicken. does that mean you'll find pre-chicken mutant fossils all over? no, because all that was needed was for that mutant to create a new species. they're called "missing links" and they're impossibly hard to find, because if you think about all the fossils that are found today and in the past versus the number of animals that have ever walked the earth, do you honestly think that it's a possibility to actually, some day, FIND all the fossils of the animals who have previously walked the earth? it's impossible.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Originally posted by: Bignate603

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus
You think that's bad, consider the number of physicians who don't accept evolution. It's a far higher number than those who don't accept the germ theory of disease.

Not accepting evolution is much less likely to kill a patient. My doctor can believe whatever he wants if it doesn't change the care he gives me. Not believing in germ theory is pretty likely to change how he would treat disease.

I won't argue that the germ theory of disease is of more immediate relevance to practicing medicine. However, the rise of drug-resistant bacteria is one of the most pressing concerns of modern medicine highlights the utility of applying evolutionary thinking to medicine.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Originally posted by: eits
you're joking, right?

Probably not. Don't feed the troll. Anyone who asks for 'proof' of a scientific theory is so uninformed you could bury them with evidence & they still wouldn't see it.

 

[IEC]

Originally posted by: Turin39789
Is this something you dreamed up to segue into a conversation about how Chiro is as legit as germ theory?

That's what I was thinking...

 

[Slimline]

Originally posted by: troytime
odd coincidence that you:
1. know about germ theory
2. have an opinion on germ theory strong enough to say something like "how the hell could this guy honestly not believe in germ theory"
3. went to borders and overheard 2 other people that qualify for #1 and #2 (above) talking about germ theory

I am not seeing your point. It would be normal for a person to overhear a conversation on something that peaks the persons interest. If the doctors were talking about knitting I am sure the OP would not have given 2 shits to listen. I have managed to meet people with similar interests at the oddest places. It happens.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

OP got taken to task in another for being a chiropractor by people who prefer sweeping generalizations, i.e. all chiropractors are quacks. Troytime & others are snarkily insinuating that OP made this scenario up to illustrate that unlike some chiropractors, he accepts that many diseases are caused by germs. Who cares if it's true? The point is that for whatever reason, sometimes people hold breathtakingly ignorant views about things when they really should know better. I've met a handful of physicians (not just chiropractors) who have peculiar ideas about the germ theory of disease, & as I mentioned, I've met more physicians who reject evolutionary biology outright despite the fact that applied biologists (which is what doctors should be) ought to know better.

 

[Gibsons]

A rule of thumb I've developed is that anyone or anything saying "the body" does this or that is immediately suspect. It's not as big of a red flag as the undefined "toxins" we hear so much about, but still.

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
I am willing to validate that germ theory is a lie... all I need is some volunteers who are willing to be injected with some Streptococcus pyogenes.

Let's go one better and try rhabdovirus. No vaccines allowed, because they don't work/cause autism anyway.

 

[Slimline]

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus
OP got taken to task in another for being a chiropractor by people who prefer sweeping generalizations, i.e. all chiropractors are quacks. Troytime & others are snarkily insinuating that OP made this scenario up to illustrate that unlike some chiropractors, he accepts that many diseases are caused by germs. Who cares if it's true? The point is that for whatever reason, sometimes people hold breathtakingly ignorant views about things when they really should know better. I've met a handful of physicians (not just chiropractors) who have peculiar ideas about the germ theory of disease, & as I mentioned, I've met more physicians who reject evolutionary biology outright despite the fact that applied biologists (which is what doctors should be) ought to know better.

I hear you now. I forgot he was the chiroptractor guy. Although it could be made up it is still something that can easily happen.

 

[StageLeft]

They still teach that life began randomly in a chemical mud, and there's not even a lick of evidence for that; no evidence, no way to reproduce it, nothing, but hey, that's "science".

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: ahenkel
The odd thing about this is I never knew it was only a Theory.

Only a theory :roll: Ugh, people suck. Text.

This. The "but it's only a theory" people are fucking retards. Every last one of them.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Kadarin

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: ahenkel
The odd thing about this is I never knew it was only a Theory.

Only a theory :roll: Ugh, people suck. Text.

This. The "but it's only a theory" people are fucking retards. Every last one of them.

Just as long as we all remember that not all theories are made the same.

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: troytime
odd coincidence that you:
1. know about germ theory
2. have an opinion on germ theory strong enough to say something like "how the hell could this guy honestly not believe in germ theory"
3. went to borders and overheard 2 other people that qualify for #1 and #2 (above) talking about germ theory

Yes...veerrrrrrryyyy interesting........

I think the real topic should have been "I want to know what people think about germs causing diseases."

Is this even up for debate anymore? We can pretty much watch a virus or bacteria infect cells now.

 

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: zerocool84
People still believe the earth is only a couple thousand years old. People will believe whatever they want.

Luckily that doesn't effect medical treatments. The shape of the earth, it's age, or its origins have very very little, if anything, to do with health care.

 

[Squisher]

Microbe=a undefined entity that causes an effect.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus
OP got taken to task in another for being a chiropractor by people who prefer sweeping generalizations, i.e. all chiropractors are quacks. Troytime & others are snarkily insinuating that OP made this scenario up to illustrate that unlike some chiropractors, he accepts that many diseases are caused by germs. Who cares if it's true? The point is that for whatever reason, sometimes people hold breathtakingly ignorant views about things when they really should know better. I've met a handful of physicians (not just chiropractors) who have peculiar ideas about the germ theory of disease, & as I mentioned, I've met more physicians who reject evolutionary biology outright despite the fact that applied biologists (which is what doctors should be) ought to know better.

first off, i definitely didn't make this up

secondy, i've only met one other chiropractor who said he didn't believe in the germ theory (he believed that subluxations caused your body's innate intelligence to impede the immune system, which caused diseases... which is just ridiculous). i don't doubt that there, unfortunately, are more chiropractors out there than medical doctors who don't buy the germ theory, but i think it's safe to say that the ones who don't are old enough to retire and open up the field for the newer, more educated, and more informed generation of chiropractors.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Gibsons
A rule of thumb I've developed is that anyone or anything saying "the body" does this or that is immediately suspect. It's not as big of a red flag as the undefined "toxins" we hear so much about, but still.

toxins = free radicals

i thought that was common knowledge