dumb question: Why is N2O used instead of straight O2?

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
/counts the number of times "NOS" was said in the thread when referring to nitrous oxide
/counts out equal number of shotgun shells

Okay, one at a time. No need to push, there's plenty for all.

- M4H

Nah, just really good marketing at work. In their minds NOS = nitrous oxide

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
/counts the number of times "NOS" was said in the thread when referring to nitrous oxide
/counts out equal number of shotgun shells

Okay, one at a time. No need to push, there's plenty for all.

- M4H

Nah, just really good marketing at work. In their minds NOS = nitrous oxide

Exactly why the shotgun shells. Not to mention that IRL, NOS is crap compared to even a Zex "Newbie Nitrous", never mind a good NX wet kit. Stupid 2F2F wannabes ... "d3wd, you got nawz!"

- M4H

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
FIRE!

explosion

rocket engines use O2

too dangerous

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
One of the reasons why N2O is used is that when it's stored under pressure it becomes a liquid. When it undergoes a phase change from liquid to gas at the nozzle going into the engine, it does a tremendous job of cooling down the air/fuel intake charge (or just air on fuel-injected motors), which not only improves horsepower, it reduces risk of detonation. I do not think pure O2 would have this effect, and the detonation issues would probably be unworkable.

All materials do that. You compress iron gas and it forms a liquid... release the pressure on the liquid iron and it will cool the iron gas (of course this is at very high and extremely high temperatures). Same with liquid oxygen, same with liquid helium...

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Basically, the nitrogen calms down the burn process.

 

[LordMorpheus]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
One of the reasons why N2O is used is that when it's stored under pressure it becomes a liquid. When it undergoes a phase change from liquid to gas at the nozzle going into the engine, it does a tremendous job of cooling down the air/fuel intake charge (or just air on fuel-injected motors), which not only improves horsepower, it reduces risk of detonation. I do not think pure O2 would have this effect, and the detonation issues would probably be unworkable.

All materials do that. You compress iron gas and it forms a liquid... release the pressure on the liquid iron and it will cool the iron gas (of course this is at very high and extremely high temperatures). Same with liquid oxygen, same with liquid helium...

yah, but I wouldn't want to be driving around with a cannister of liquid oxygen in my trunk. I mean, its the other part of rocket fuel, to mix it with the other combustable (not sure what it is) and it makes that stuff BURN!!!!.

its like a fire-extinguisher, exept the opposite. If you took a cannister of liquid O2 (my bad. I hoped you would have know what I meant.) and sprayed it on a fire it would incenerate any combustables in the area. That includes you, mate.

 

[Tom]

"If you took a cannister of liquid H2O and sprayed it on a fire it.. "

Liquid H2O...

 

[bigredguy]

Originally posted by: Dead Parrot Sketch
"If you took a cannister of liquid H2O and sprayed it on a fire it.. "

Liquid H2O...

When did they figure out how to make H2O a liquid?

 

[Mday]

Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
its like a fire-extinguisher, exept the opposite. If you took a cannister of liquid H2O and sprayed it on a fire it would incenerate any combustables in the area. That includes you, mate.

omg not liquid H2O, that stuff is flamable

 

[911paramedic]

Originally posted by: Mday

Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
its like a fire-extinguisher, exept the opposite. If you took a cannister of liquid H2O and sprayed it on a fire it would incenerate any combustables in the area. That includes you, mate.

omg not liquid H2O, that stuff is flamable

OMG!! DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!!! RUN!!

 

[Evadman]

wow, this thread degenerated rather quckly.

 

[PowerMacG5]

Originally posted by: 911paramedic

Originally posted by: Mday

Originally posted by: LordMorpheus its like a fire-extinguisher, exept the opposite. If you took a cannister of liquid H2O and sprayed it on a fire it would incenerate any combustables in the area. That includes you, mate.

omg not liquid H2O, that stuff is flamable

OMG!! DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!!! RUN!!

NOES, that stuff is dangerous.

 

[LordMorpheus]

funny that my slipup generated nearly as many replies as the original topic.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: LordMorpheus

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
One of the reasons why N2O is used is that when it's stored under pressure it becomes a liquid. When it undergoes a phase change from liquid to gas at the nozzle going into the engine, it does a tremendous job of cooling down the air/fuel intake charge (or just air on fuel-injected motors), which not only improves horsepower, it reduces risk of detonation. I do not think pure O2 would have this effect, and the detonation issues would probably be unworkable.

All materials do that. You compress iron gas and it forms a liquid... release the pressure on the liquid iron and it will cool the iron gas (of course this is at very high and extremely high temperatures). Same with liquid oxygen, same with liquid helium...

yah, but I wouldn't want to be driving around with a cannister of liquid oxygen in my trunk. I mean, its the other part of rocket fuel, to mix it with the other combustable (not sure what it is) and it makes that stuff BURN!!!!.

its like a fire-extinguisher, exept the opposite. If you took a cannister of liquid O2 (my bad. I hoped you would have know what I meant.) and sprayed it on a fire it would incenerate any combustables in the area. That includes you, mate.

I know that, I was just saying that the cooling-while-expanding thing was not a reason people use N2O over O2 as both gases do that...

And there are many different types of rocket fuel you know... Solid propellants, different liquid mixtures, but the one you're most likely talking about is straight up hydrogen combined with straight up oxygen.

 

[LAUST]

Because it SUPER cools the chamber, making it a natural DETONATION preventer along with super condensed air

<---- teeth chatter at the sound of "running over wires"

 

[dubge]

LAUST Nice pics of you smoking that Z28
I run 16s with my truck on 36" super swampers