Dullard's College Football - Week 8, 2006

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Place , Win Rating / Win Place , Score Rating / Score Place , W , L , Team name
01 , 62.4 / 03 , 70.5 / 01 , 8 , 0 , Ohio State
02 , 65.6 / 02 , 64.6 / 03 , 8 , 0 , Michigan
03 , 66.1 / 01 , 62.7 / 05 , 6 , 0 , Southern Cal
04 , 60.4 / 04 , 65.3 / 02 , 7 , 1 , California
05 , 57.6 / 05 , 62.4 / 06 , 6 , 1 , Florida
06 , 54.5 / 08 , 59.8 / 09 , 6 , 1 , Tennessee
07 , 55.1 / 07 , 58.1 / 10 , 7 , 1 , Auburn
08 , 51.7 / 12 , 60.9 / 07 , 7 , 0 , West Virginia
09 , 51.1 / 14 , 59.9 / 08 , 7 , 1 , Texas
10 , 52.8 / 10 , 58.0 / 11 , 7 , 0 , Louisville
11 , 46.4 / 20 , 63.0 / 04 , 6 , 2 , LSU
12 , 52.4 / 11 , 56.5 / 12 , 8 , 0 , Boise St
13 , 53.6 / 09 , 51.9 / 19 , 6 , 1 , Boston College
14 , 56.2 / 06 , 48.5 / 22 , 6 , 1 , Notre Dame
15 , 51.6 / 13 , 52.1 / 17 , 7 , 0 , Rutgers
16 , 48.4 / 16 , 54.9 / 13 , 7 , 1 , Wisconsin
17 , 48.2 / 17 , 54.9 / 14 , 7 , 1 , Clemson
18 , 47.9 / 18 , 52.1 / 18 , 5 , 2 , Oregon
19 , 43.1 / 25 , 52.3 / 16 , 5 , 2 , Oklahoma
20 , 49.4 / 15 , 45.8 / 28 , 6 , 1 , Arkansas
21 , 47.7 / 19 , 47.1 / 26 , 5 , 3 , Washington St
22 , 44.8 / 21 , 49.9 / 20 , 7 , 1 , Missouri
23 , 40.4 / 33 , 53.2 / 15 , 5 , 2 , Brigham Young
24 , 43.9 / 22 , 46.8 / 27 , 5 , 3 , Iowa
25 , 41.3 / 30 , 48.5 / 24 , 6 , 2 , Nebraska
26 , 40.4 / 32 , 48.5 / 23 , 5 , 2 , Virginia Tech
27 , 43.2 / 24 , 45.2 / 31 , 5 , 3 , Penn State
28 , 38.9 / 37 , 49.4 / 21 , 6 , 2 , Pittsburgh
29 , 43.0 / 26 , 45.2 / 30 , 6 , 1 , Tulsa
30 , 43.6 / 23 , 43.7 / 33 , 7 , 1 , Texas A&M
31 , 36.1 / 43 , 48.0 / 25 , 5 , 2 , Hawai`i
32 , 38.3 / 39 , 45.7 / 29 , 4 , 3 , UCLA
33 , 41.6 / 29 , 42.3 / 39 , 4 , 3 , Oregon St
34 , 41.2 / 31 , 42.4 / 37 , 5 , 2 , Georgia Tech
35 , 42.5 / 27 , 40.9 / 42 , 5 , 2 , Navy
36 , 39.9 / 35 , 43.5 / 34 , 6 , 2 , Georgia
37 , 38.9 / 38 , 43.9 / 32 , 4 , 3 , Arizona St
38 , 40.2 / 34 , 41.9 / 40 , 5 , 2 , South Carolina
39 , 42.1 / 28 , 39.0 / 46 , 6 , 1 , Wake Forest
40 , 37.7 / 40 , 43.3 / 35 , 5 , 3 , Alabama
41 , 39.0 / 36 , 40.9 / 43 , 4 , 4 , Washington
42 , 37.1 / 41 , 42.4 / 38 , 4 , 2 , TCU
43 , 33.9 / 48 , 43.1 / 36 , 4 , 3 , Florida St
44 , 35.4 / 44 , 37.8 / 47 , 4 , 4 , Michigan St
45 , 32.0 / 53 , 39.3 / 45 , 3 , 3 , Air Force
46 , 33.2 / 49 , 37.5 / 48 , 5 , 2 , Miami FL
47 , 36.3 / 42 , 34.1 / 56 , 5 , 2 , Maryland
48 , 27.8 / 66 , 40.9 / 41 , 4 , 4 , Wyoming
49 , 30.8 / 59 , 37.2 / 49 , 5 , 3 , Houston
50 , 34.4 / 45 , 33.3 / 59 , 5 , 3 , Central Michigan
51 , 32.4 / 50 , 35.0 / 53 , 5 , 3 , Texas Tech
52 , 34.3 / 46 , 33.0 / 62 , 4 , 3 , Southern Miss
53 , 31.0 / 58 , 36.2 / 51 , 3 , 5 , Minnesota
54 , 26.9 / 72 , 40.0 / 44 , 4 , 3 , Oklahoma St
55 , 34.0 / 47 , 32.1 / 65 , 5 , 3 , Ohio U.
56 , 32.1 / 52 , 33.6 / 57 , 5 , 2 , Western Michigan
57 , 30.8 / 60 , 34.8 / 55 , 5 , 2 , South Florida
58 , 31.8 / 54 , 33.3 / 58 , 3 , 4 , North Carolina St
59 , 27.7 / 67 , 37.0 / 50 , 4 , 4 , Utah
60 , 31.2 / 57 , 32.9 / 63 , 3 , 4 , Kentucky
61 , 27.6 / 68 , 35.3 / 52 , 3 , 5 , Syracuse
62 , 30.4 / 61 , 32.3 / 64 , 4 , 4 , Kansas St
63 , 27.9 / 65 , 34.8 / 54 , 4 , 3 , Nevada
64 , 32.2 / 51 , 30.2 / 72 , 5 , 3 , Purdue
65 , 29.6 / 62 , 31.2 / 68 , 5 , 2 , Kent St
66 , 27.2 / 69 , 33.0 / 61 , 3 , 4 , Cincinnati
67 , 31.7 / 56 , 27.7 / 76 , 4 , 4 , Indiana
68 , 31.7 / 55 , 27.5 / 77 , 4 , 2 , San Jose St
69 , 27.1 / 71 , 32.1 / 66 , 4 , 4 , Baylor
70 , 25.7 / 78 , 33.1 / 60 , 3 , 4 , East Carolina
71 , 28.1 / 63 , 30.5 / 71 , 3 , 5 , Arizona
72 , 26.4 / 75 , 32.0 / 67 , 3 , 5 , Vanderbilt
73 , 26.1 / 76 , 29.5 / 73 , 5 , 3 , Northern Illinois
74 , 23.4 / 83 , 31.2 / 69 , 4 , 3 , Colorado St
75 , 24.9 / 80 , 29.3 / 74 , 4 , 4 , New Mexico
76 , 27.2 / 70 , 26.7 / 80 , 3 , 4 , Connecticut
77 , 26.5 / 74 , 26.8 / 78 , 4 , 3 , UTEP
78 , 21.1 / 88 , 31.0 / 70 , 3 , 5 , Virginia
79 , 24.9 / 81 , 25.6 / 83 , 4 , 3 , Middle Tennessee St
80 , 23.2 / 84 , 25.9 / 82 , 3 , 4 , Akron
81 , 28.1 / 64 , 20.7 / 92 , 4 , 2 , Louisiana-Lafayette
82 , 23.6 / 82 , 23.8 / 88 , 3 , 5 , Iowa St
83 , 26.7 / 73 , 20.2 / 94 , 4 , 4 , Idaho
84 , 21.5 / 86 , 25.4 / 85 , 2 , 6 , Illinois
85 , 21.2 / 87 , 25.5 / 84 , 3 , 5 , Rice
86 , 19.9 / 90 , 26.1 / 81 , 2 , 6 , Mississippi St
87 , 25.0 / 79 , 20.7 / 93 , 5 , 2 , Arkansas St
88 , 21.8 / 85 , 23.5 / 89 , 4 , 4 , SMU
89 , 25.9 / 77 , 19.2 / 100 , 4 , 4 , Bowling Green
90 , 16.3 / 98 , 27.9 / 75 , 3 , 5 , Kansas
91 , 17.3 / 95 , 25.2 / 86 , 3 , 5 , Alabama-Birmingham
92 , 20.1 / 89 , 20.2 / 95 , 2 , 6 , Mississippi
93 , 13.4 / 104 , 26.7 / 79 , 1 , 7 , Colorado
94 , 19.7 / 91 , 19.6 / 99 , 2 , 5 , Tulane
95 , 14.0 / 101 , 24.4 / 87 , 1 , 6 , Fresno St
96 , 16.7 / 96 , 21.6 / 90 , 2 , 5 , Marshall
97 , 18.1 / 93 , 19.7 / 97 , 3 , 5 , Army
98 , 17.6 / 94 , 19.7 / 98 , 2 , 5 , Central Florida
99 , 16.4 / 97 , 18.9 / 101 , 1 , 5 , San Diego St
100 , 11.5 / 107 , 21.4 / 91 , 2 , 6 , Ball St
101 , 13.5 / 103 , 18.8 / 102 , 2 , 4 , Troy
102 , 11.3 / 108 , 19.9 / 96 , 2 , 5 , New Mexico St
103 , 13.9 / 102 , 17.1 / 103 , 2 , 6 , Northwestern
104 , 14.1 / 100 , 15.3 / 106 , 1 , 6 , North Carolina
105 , 18.7 / 92 , 9.8 / 110 , 2 , 5 , Louisiana Tech
106 , 8.6 / 110 , 16.5 / 104 , 1 , 6 , Memphis
107 , 14.6 / 99 , 9.6 / 112 , 2 , 5 , North Texas
108 , 7.0 / 112 , 15.6 / 105 , 1 , 6 , UNLV
109 , 12.7 / 105 , 9.3 / 114 , 0 , 8 , Stanford
110 , 8.8 / 109 , 12.8 / 108 , 2 , 6 , Toledo
111 , 12.3 / 106 , 7.2 / 116 , 2 , 5 , Florida Atlantic
112 , 5.7 / 113 , 11.9 / 109 , 0 , 7 , Duke
113 , 3.6 / 116 , 13.1 / 107 , 1 , 7 , Miami OH
114 , 8.3 / 111 , 5.8 / 117 , 1 , 7 , Utah St
115 , 4.9 / 114 , 8.0 / 115 , 1 , 6 , Eastern Michigan
116 , 1.2 / 118 , 9.8 / 111 , 0 , 7 , Florida Int'l
117 , 0.0 / 119 , 9.5 / 113 , 1 , 6 , Louisiana-Monroe
118 , 4.5 / 115 , 3.1 / 118 , 1 , 6 , Buffalo
119 , 2.7 / 117 , 0.0 / 119 , 0 , 8 , Temple
01 , 33.1 / 124 , 39.6 / 120 , 6 , 1 , Massachusetts
02 , 34.3 / 121 , 32.9 / 121 , 7 , 1 , Appalachian St
03 , 38.3 / 120 , 27.8 / 125 , 6 , 1 , Montana
04 , 32.4 / 125 , 31.3 / 122 , 6 , 1 , James Madison
05 , 33.5 / 122 , 28.6 / 124 , 6 , 1 , Illinois St
06 , 29.5 / 126 , 30.3 / 123 , 6 , 1 , North Dakota St
07 , 26.9 / 128 , 27.7 / 126 , 5 , 3 , Portland St
08 , 26.2 / 131 , 27.4 / 127 , 6 , 2 , Youngstown St
09 , 26.4 / 129 , 26.9 / 128 , 5 , 2 , New Hampshire
10 , 26.2 / 130 , 26.2 / 129 , 5 , 2 , Northern Iowa
11 , 33.4 / 123 , 17.6 / 137 , 6 , 0 , Princeton
12 , 28.2 / 127 , 18.4 / 136 , 5 , 1 , Harvard
13 , 22.3 / 136 , 23.5 / 131 , 5 , 2 , Richmond
14 , 21.8 / 138 , 23.5 / 130 , 4 , 3 , UC-Davis
15 , 25.5 / 133 , 19.5 / 133 , 5 , 2 , Maine
16 , 25.8 / 132 , 18.9 / 134 , 5 , 2 , Cal Poly SLO
17 , 21.9 / 137 , 20.1 / 132 , 7 , 0 , San Diego
18 , 20.8 / 142 , 18.7 / 135 , 5 , 2 , Southern Illinois
19 , 22.5 / 135 , 13.9 / 142 , 5 , 3 , Montana St
20 , 18.8 / 145 , 16.6 / 138 , 6 , 2 , Furman
21 , 21.7 / 139 , 11.8 / 144 , 6 , 1 , Tennessee-Martin
22 , 24.3 / 134 , 8.7 / 153 , 5 , 1 , Yale
23 , 21.7 / 140 , 10.6 / 149 , 5 , 2 , Towson
24 , 16.9 / 147 , 14.0 / 140 , 7 , 1 , Hampton
25 , 19.5 / 144 , 10.8 / 147 , 3 , 4 , Northeastern
26 , 15.3 / 150 , 14.8 / 139 , 3 , 4 , Wofford
27 , 14.7 / 154 , 13.9 / 141 , 4 , 3 , Delaware
28 , 18.1 / 146 , 9.6 / 152 , 5 , 2 , Coastal Carolina
29 , 20.8 / 141 , 6.2 / 161 , 4 , 3 , South Dakota St
30 , 15.0 / 151 , 12.0 / 143 , 3 , 4 , Northern Arizona
31 , 16.8 / 148 , 9.7 / 150 , 4 , 3 , Western Kentucky
32 , 14.7 / 155 , 10.9 / 146 , 4 , 3 , Sam Houston St
33 , 16.4 / 149 , 7.2 / 157 , 5 , 3 , Eastern Illinois
34 , 14.8 / 153 , 7.5 / 156 , 4 , 2 , Pennsylvania
35 , 20.1 / 143 , 0.8 / 177 , 7 , 0 , Charleston Southern
36 , 9.0 / 165 , 10.8 / 148 , 3 , 4 , Lehigh
37 , 9.0 / 166 , 9.7 / 151 , 3 , 4 , Georgia Southern
38 , 6.9 / 170 , 10.9 / 145 , 3 , 4 , Jacksonville St
39 , 11.3 / 159 , 6.1 / 162 , 2 , 6 , Eastern Washington
40 , 14.6 / 156 , 2.4 / 171 , 6 , 2 , Holy Cross
41 , 14.2 / 157 , 2.1 / 172 , 7 , 1 , Monmouth NJ
42 , 9.4 / 164 , 6.9 / 159 , 3 , 4 , Elon
43 , 10.2 / 161 , 5.0 / 165 , 4 , 3 , South Carolina St
44 , 12.1 / 158 , 2.7 / 170 , 2 , 5 , Sacramento St
45 , 6.1 / 175 , 8.5 / 154 , 2 , 5 , William & Mary
46 , 6.2 / 174 , 7.1 / 158 , 2 , 5 , Villanova
47 , 15.0 / 152 , -2.7 / 187 , 5 , 2 , Gardner-Webb
48 , 5.9 / 177 , 5.3 / 164 , 2 , 5 , Weber St
49 , 3.3 / 185 , 7.9 / 155 , 3 , 5 , Western Illinois
50 , 4.1 / 181 , 6.8 / 160 , 2 , 5 , Idaho St
51 , 11.0 / 160 , -0.2 / 182 , 4 , 3 , Tennessee St
52 , 6.0 / 176 , 4.4 / 167 , 2 , 5 , Rhode Island
53 , 4.2 / 180 , 5.9 / 163 , 3 , 4 , Grambling St
54 , 10.0 / 162 , 0.1 / 180 , 5 , 2 , Delaware St
55 , 4.9 / 179 , 4.9 / 166 , 3 , 4 , Colgate
56 , 6.2 / 173 , 1.7 / 173 , 2 , 5 , The Citadel
57 , 6.4 / 172 , 0.7 / 178 , 6 , 2 , Central Conn St
58 , 2.7 / 189 , 4.2 / 168 , 2 , 5 , Hofstra
59 , 9.7 / 163 , -3.4 / 189 , 5 , 2 , Alabama A&M
60 , 3.9 / 182 , 1.7 / 174 , 2 , 4 , Brown
61 , 5.4 / 178 , -0.1 / 181 , 5 , 3 , Albany NY
62 , 7.5 / 168 , -2.2 / 186 , 8 , 0 , St John's MN
63 , 3.4 / 184 , 1.4 / 175 , 3 , 5 , Chattanooga
64 , 0.1 / 203 , 3.7 / 169 , 1 , 6 , Stephen F. Austin
65 , 3.8 / 183 , -0.8 / 184 , 3 , 4 , Northwestern St
66 , 8.9 / 167 , -6.9 / 201 , 4 , 3 , Florida A&M
67 , 2.6 / 190 , -0.6 / 183 , 2 , 5 , Lafayette
68 , 7.2 / 169 , -5.3 / 197 , 5 , 2 , Jackson St
69 , 6.4 / 171 , -5.4 / 198 , 4 , 3 , Arkansas-Pine Bluff
70 , 0.1 / 202 , 0.8 / 176 , 3 , 4 , Liberty
71 , -0.3 / 204 , 0.4 / 179 , 3 , 5 , Southern Utah
72 , 0.7 / 198 , -1.7 / 185 , 3 , 4 , Texas St-San Marcos
73 , 3.0 / 187 , -4.2 / 194 , 4 , 4 , Stony Brook
74 , 1.5 / 194 , -3.0 / 188 , 4 , 3 , Bethune-Cookman
75 , 3.2 / 186 , -5.1 / 196 , 6 , 2 , Drake
76 , 1.4 / 195 , -3.7 / 192 , 2 , 5 , Nicholls St
77 , 1.0 / 196 , -3.5 / 191 , 3 , 3 , Columbia
78 , 0.2 / 201 , -4.4 / 195 , 3 , 5 , Eastern Kentucky
79 , 2.8 / 188 , -7.4 / 203 , 6 , 2 , Duquesne
80 , -1.5 / 207 , -3.4 / 190 , 3 , 5 , Samford
81 , 0.4 / 200 , -5.7 / 199 , 3 , 4 , McNeese St
82 , 0.9 / 197 , -6.4 / 200 , 3 , 4 , SE Missouri St
83 , 2.1 / 191 , -8.2 / 205 , 4 , 4 , Bucknell
84 , 1.6 / 193 , -8.9 / 208 , 5 , 3 , Robert Morris
85 , 2.0 / 192 , -10.7 / 212 , 4 , 4 , Morgan St
86 , -2.3 / 208 , -7.7 / 204 , 2 , 6 , SE Louisiana St
87 , -3.4 / 209 , -7.3 / 202 , 1 , 5 , Dartmouth
88 , -7.3 / 218 , -4.1 / 193 , 1 , 7 , Missouri St
89 , -1.5 / 206 , -10.5 / 210 , 2 , 5 , Tennessee Tech
90 , 0.4 / 199 , -12.5 / 216 , 4 , 4 , Mississippi Valley St
91 , -0.8 / 205 , -12.0 / 214 , 4 , 3 , Davidson
92 , -4.1 / 210 , -11.5 / 213 , 4 , 3 , Alcorn St
93 , -5.5 / 213 , -10.6 / 211 , 6 , 1 , Georgetown KY
94 , -6.1 / 215 , -10.0 / 209 , 3 , 5 , Southern U.
95 , -4.7 / 211 , -12.8 / 217 , 1 , 7 , Indiana St
96 , -9.7 / 223 , -8.5 / 206 , 2 , 5 , Western Carolina
97 , -5.4 / 212 , -13.5 / 218 , 3 , 4 , Alabama St
98 , -7.5 / 219 , -12.0 / 215 , 1 , 7 , Murray St
99 , -5.7 / 214 , -13.9 / 219 , 3 , 4 , Norfolk St
100 , -7.0 / 217 , -15.5 / 221 , 2 , 5 , Howard
101 , -8.1 / 220 , -14.8 / 220 , 1 , 6 , Northern Colorado
102 , -10.8 / 224 , -15.9 / 222 , 4 , 4 , Wagner
103 , -8.2 / 221 , -18.6 / 223 , 1 , 7 , VMI
104 , -8.8 / 222 , -20.6 / 225 , 2 , 5 , Fordham
105 , -11.4 / 225 , -21.5 / 227 , 2 , 5 , Texas Southern
106 , -6.4 / 216 , -27.5 / 231 , 4 , 3 , Jacksonville FL
107 , -17.6 / 228 , -19.5 / 224 , 2 , 5 , Prairie View A&M
108 , -16.6 / 227 , -20.8 / 226 , 2 , 6 , Sacred Heart
109 , -15.4 / 226 , -23.4 / 228 , 3 , 4 , Dayton
110 , -23.8 / 232 , -25.6 / 229 , 2 , 5 , Iona
111 , -19.2 / 230 , -32.6 / 233 , 2 , 6 , Marist
112 , -25.5 / 236 , -26.9 / 230 , 1 , 6 , Austin Peay
113 , -17.9 / 229 , -34.8 / 234 , 3 , 5 , Butler
114 , -25.0 / 235 , -30.5 / 232 , 1 , 7 , Morehead St
115 , -22.4 / 231 , -37.9 / 235 , 0 , 7 , North Carolina A&T
116 , -24.4 / 233 , -38.2 / 236 , 1 , 7 , St Francis PA
117 , -26.2 / 238 , -39.6 / 237 , 2 , 6 , Valparaiso
118 , -25.9 / 237 , -41.1 / 238 , 1 , 6 , Savannah St
119 , -24.8 / 234 , -44.3 / 241 , 1 , 6 , St Peter's
120 , -28.9 / 239 , -43.0 / 239 , 2 , 5 , Cornell IA
121 , -30.1 / 240 , -43.8 / 240 , 2 , 5 , La Salle
 

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everyone else is calling us the best 1 loss team in the nation and we're #17 in your poll? just wait til we blow VA tech out of the way thursday night.
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: JohnCU
everyone else is calling us the best 1 loss team in the nation and we're #17 in your poll? just wait til we blow VA tech out of the way thursday night.
Who else? I really haven't heard anyone say that about Clemson (they are behind several other 1 loss teams in all the major polls). Plus, even if you do beat a 5-3 Va Tech team, does that really mean much?
 

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Originally posted by: JohnCU
everyone else is calling us the best 1 loss team in the nation and we're #17 in your poll?

Lots of teams have been called "the best 1 loss team" thus far this season: Auburn, Texas, Clemson, Tennessee, Florida, etc...

Don't get your panties in a twist...besides, everyone knows Clemson is just "Auburn with a lake" ;)
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: JohnCU
everyone else is calling us the best 1 loss team in the nation and we're #17 in your poll? just wait til we blow VA tech out of the way thursday night.
Who else? I really haven't heard anyone say that about Clemson.

The talking heads on College GameDay did during the post game report. Fowler, Corso (idiot!), and Herbie.
 

JohnCU

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Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: JohnCU
everyone else is calling us the best 1 loss team in the nation and we're #17 in your poll? just wait til we blow VA tech out of the way thursday night.
Who else? I really haven't heard anyone say that about Clemson (they are behind several other 1 loss teams in all the major polls). Plus, even if you do beat a 5-3 Va Tech team, does that really mean much?

maybe it doesn't mean that much, but we just dominated GA Tech and held calvin johnson to... how many catches? 0.
 

Bryan

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Why oh WHY is Cal ranked higher than Tennessee?

"Cuz if they played again now, Cal would win."

Prove it. The only proof I saw or need was Tennessee absolutely making Cal their bitch in the opener.
 

TuxDave

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Originally posted by: Bryan
Why oh WHY is Cal ranked higher than Tennessee?

"Cuz if they played again now, Cal would win."

Prove it. The only proof I saw or need was Tennessee absolutely making Cal their bitch in the opener.

Cry more. :p
 

kalster

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Originally posted by: Bryan
Why oh WHY is Cal ranked higher than Tennessee?

"Cuz if they played again now, Cal would win."

Prove it. The only proof I saw or need was Tennessee absolutely making Cal their bitch in the opener.

well that applies to a lot of teams, arkansas totally dominated auburn, yet auburn are ahead in most polls
 

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Originally posted by: Bryan
Why oh WHY is Cal ranked higher than Tennessee?

"Cuz if they played again now, Cal would win."

Prove it. The only proof I saw or need was Tennessee absolutely making Cal their bitch in the opener.

As much as I root for the pac-10, I agree. If two teams have the same record and played eachother earlier in the year, the winning team should ALWAYS be ahead.

The same thing happened in 2000 with Washington and Miami. Washington beat Miami and after a couple weeks Miami was ahead of Washington in the polls with the same record.
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: Bryan
Why oh WHY is Cal ranked higher than Tennessee?

"Cuz if they played again now, Cal would win."

Prove it. The only proof I saw or need was Tennessee absolutely making Cal their bitch in the opener.
Because there is more than 1 game in a football season. You could argue that the Tenn/Cal game is all that matters in the ratings. But Prove it. Prove that no other data is needed in ranking teams. Prove that the other games Tenn played and that the other games Cal played are meaningless.
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
As much as I root for the pac-10, I agree. If two teams have the same record and played eachother earlier in the year, the winning team should ALWAYS be ahead.
That is a nice dream, but it is physically impossible to come up with ANY ranking system that does it. Suppose X, Y, and Z played equally difficult schedules, did equally well in those games, and suppose that X beats Y, Y beats Z, and Z beats X, who is #1?
 

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Originally posted by: dullard
That is a nice dream, but it is physically impossible to come up with ANY ranking system that does it. Suppose X, Y, and Z played equally difficult schedules, did equally well in those games, and suppose that X beats Y, Y beats Z, and Z beats X, who is #1?

That actually happens a lot, but it's a completely different scenario. If all 3 teams had different records, then it would be the one with the best record. If all 2 of them teams had the same record, and the 3rd one had a worse record, then it would be whoever won between the two teams. If they all had the same record, it would come down to strength of schedule and perceived talent.
 

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Because there is more than 1 game in a football season. You could argue that the Tenn/Cal game is all that matters in the ratings. But Prove it. Prove that no other data is needed in ranking teams. Prove that the other games Tenn played and that the other games Cal played are meaningless.

How about Cal hasn't really played anybody worth a damn? You could say Oregon...but they just lost again to WSU...so they're not that good.
 

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Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: Bryan
Why oh WHY is Cal ranked higher than Tennessee?

"Cuz if they played again now, Cal would win."

Prove it. The only proof I saw or need was Tennessee absolutely making Cal their bitch in the opener.

well that applies to a lot of teams, arkansas totally dominated auburn, yet auburn are ahead in most polls


Thats because Arkansas was ranked down in the 30's at the beginning of the season. Arkansas always has to win and earn their way into the rankings. The meat and potatoes of their schedule is coming up though and should solidify their ranking (games against Tennessee, South Carolina and LSU).


 

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: dullard
That is a nice dream, but it is physically impossible to come up with ANY ranking system that does it. Suppose X, Y, and Z played equally difficult schedules, did equally well in those games, and suppose that X beats Y, Y beats Z, and Z beats X, who is #1?

That actually happens a lot, but it's a completely different scenario. If all 3 teams had different records, then it would be the one with the best record. If all 2 of them teams had the same record, and the 3rd one had a worse record, then it would be whoever won between the two teams. If they all had the same record, it would come down to strength of schedule and perceived talent.

It still really doesn't work. Big upsets do happen, but that doesn't mean that one team is actually better than the other. What do you do when an unranked team beats a top ten team? Do you take the top 10 team all the way out of the rankings and below the team that upset them? Or do you take the unranked team and propel them to the top half of the ranking somewhere? Neither way seems fair to me. If you take the 1st option you might suddenly have a very good 1 loss team out of the top 25. If you take the second option you might end up with a team that has a losing record in the top 10 and ahead of many teams that are actually better.

[edit] Nevermind... I see you are taking records into account.
 

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Originally posted by: Thraxen
It still really doesn't work. Big upsets do happen, but that doesn't mean that one team is actually better than the other. What do you do when an unranked team beats a top ten team? Do you take the top 10 team all the way out of the rankings and below the team that upset them? Or do you take the unranked team and propel them to the top half of the ranking somewhere? Neither way seems fair to me. If you take the 1st option you might suddenly have a very good 1 loss team out of the top 25. If you take the second option you might end up with a team that has a losing record in the top 10 and ahead of many teams that are actually better.

I can't really answer that since no theoretical records are given.
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: Thraxen
It still really doesn't work. Big upsets do happen, but that doesn't mean that one team is actually better than the other. What do you do when an unranked team beats a top ten team? Do you take the top 10 team all the way out of the rankings and below the team that upset them? Or do you take the unranked team and propel them to the top half of the ranking somewhere? Neither way seems fair to me. If you take the 1st option you might suddenly have a very good 1 loss team out of the top 25. If you take the second option you might end up with a team that has a losing record in the top 10 and ahead of many teams that are actually better.
Exactly.
 

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Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: Bryan
Why oh WHY is Cal ranked higher than Tennessee?

"Cuz if they played again now, Cal would win."

Prove it. The only proof I saw or need was Tennessee absolutely making Cal their bitch in the opener.
Because there is more than 1 game in a football season. You could argue that the Tenn/Cal game is all that matters in the ratings. But Prove it. Prove that no other data is needed in ranking teams. Prove that the other games Tenn played and that the other games Cal played are meaningless.
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
As much as I root for the pac-10, I agree. If two teams have the same record and played eachother earlier in the year, the winning team should ALWAYS be ahead.
That is a nice dream, but it is physically impossible to come up with ANY ranking system that does it. Suppose X, Y, and Z played equally difficult schedules, did equally well in those games, and suppose that X beats Y, Y beats Z, and Z beats X, who is #1?

X is #1 because they have coach that used be an assistant in the NFL, and because they were the best team during most sports writers' father's impressionable childhood years.
 

SP33Demon

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WVU fan checking in to remind you that the title game will still be WVU/OSU. Not much changed this week except Michigan got a good scare from mediocre Iowa. I'd love to see USC or Michigan play WVU right now.
 

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
WVU fan checking in to remind you that the title game will still be WVU/OSU. Not much changed this week except Michigan got a good scare from mediocre Iowa. I'd love to see USC or Michigan play WVU right now.
How about you wait to talk trash about mediocre opponents until after WVU beats UL? Even Iowa is head and shoulders above anyone WVU has played so far.
 

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
WVU fan checking in to remind you that the title game will still be WVU/OSU. Not much changed this week except Michigan got a good scare from mediocre Iowa. I'd love to see USC or Michigan play WVU right now.

Haha.. I kind of hope that happens. It will be another big controversy in the BCS. While I think that they are truly a great team, their schedule is so weak there are going to many pissed people if they get in... even if it's over some 1 loss teams.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: Alkaline5
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
WVU fan checking in to remind you that the title game will still be WVU/OSU. Not much changed this week except Michigan got a good scare from mediocre Iowa. I'd love to see USC or Michigan play WVU right now.
How about you wait to talk trash about mediocre opponents until after WVU beats UL? Even Iowa is head and shoulders above anyone WVU has played so far.
Funny considering the fact that your SIG says that your "computer program" claims the Big East has the best "Conference Rating". Also funny is the fact that you go to UGA, whom WVU stomped in the Sugar Bowl last year (you witnessed the carnage firsthand).

You can cry all you want, the fact is that WVU will stomp Louisville, UL barely got by Cincy and WVU whipped Syracuse way more than Louisville did (*cough 457 yards rushing vs 223*). I don't see Louisville beating WVU and 97.456% of people who follow the Big East agree.
 

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Funny considering the fact that your SIG says that your "computer program" claims the Big East has the best "Conference Rating". Also funny is the fact that you go to UGA, whom WVU stomped in the Sugar Bowl last year (you witnessed the carnage firsthand).
Funny how WVU hasn't played ANY of the decent Big East teams. Yet, you give them credit for the Big East difficulty. Rose colored glasses don't work well against a crimson or scarlet colored team.

If WVU beats Louisville and Rutgers, then they will have accomplished something. But that is one big IF.

I always root for the lesser known teams to go undefeated and have a chance at the national championship. In all my years of watching, they have ALWAYS faltered right near the end. Maybe WVU can break that trend. But history's examples don't look good for WVU.
 

kalster

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wvu has only beaten 1 team (maryland) with a winning record, the teams they have beaten so far are a combined 20-32 , i think i would wait a while before i starting talking about them being better than undefeated teams that have beaten legit teams
 

hdeck

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people are way too quick to crown WVU. they haven't played (let alone beaten) a single ranked team this year. beat Louisville, Pitt, and Rutgers, and then you can make your case for the title game.