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kalster

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
WVU fan checking in to remind you that the title game will still be WVU/OSU. Not much changed this week except Michigan got a good scare from mediocre Iowa. I'd love to see USC or Michigan play WVU right now.

LOL! Dream on. I haven't heard anyone actually entertain such a ludicrous idea. They'll play in a weak BCS bowl like Utah did 2 years ago.
Read above, WVU has trounced their unranked opponents whereas USC needed last quarter heroics to beat the mighty (lol) Ariz St. and Washington. And Michigan needed last Q heroics vs Iowa at HOME no less. WVU would have trounced Iowa at Mountaineer Field IMO.

while usc has struggled this season arizona state, washington and wsu are all better than eastern washington , east carolina , and marshall (teams wvu trounced), by a big margin. so trouncing pathetic teams doesnt make your team better

I can't believe I'm agreeing with a USC fan. :eek:

its all good, I sometimes like watching defensive minded sec teams play too ;)
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
WVU fan checking in to remind you that the title game will still be WVU/OSU. Not much changed this week except Michigan got a good scare from mediocre Iowa. I'd love to see USC or Michigan play WVU right now.

LOL! Dream on. I haven't heard anyone actually entertain such a ludicrous idea. They'll play in a weak BCS bowl like Utah did 2 years ago.
Read above, WVU has trounced their unranked opponents whereas USC needed last quarter heroics to beat the mighty (lol) Ariz St. and Washington. And Michigan needed last Q heroics vs Iowa at HOME no less. WVU would have trounced Iowa at Mountaineer Field IMO.

Iowa is a better team than you think. They gave Michigan a damn good game and the Wolverines are lightyears ahead of WVU.
You mean the same Iowa team that barely beat Syracuse in double OT(LOL and threw four INT's? WVU had 461 yards rushing vs Syracuse, you do the math on what they would do to Iowa.

 

TraumaRN

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
WVU fan checking in to remind you that the title game will still be WVU/OSU. Not much changed this week except Michigan got a good scare from mediocre Iowa. I'd love to see USC or Michigan play WVU right now.

LOL! Dream on. I haven't heard anyone actually entertain such a ludicrous idea. They'll play in a weak BCS bowl like Utah did 2 years ago.
Read above, WVU has trounced their unranked opponents whereas USC needed last quarter heroics to beat the mighty (lol) Ariz St. and Washington. And Michigan needed last Q heroics vs Iowa at HOME no less. WVU would have trounced Iowa at Mountaineer Field IMO.

Iowa is a better team than you think. They gave Michigan a damn good game and the Wolverines are lightyears ahead of WVU.
You mean the same Iowa team that barely beat Syracuse in double OT(LOL and threw four INT's? WVU had 461 yards rushing vs Syracuse, you do the math on what they would do to Iowa.

Do the math on what Michigan would do to WVU's rushing attack. WVU isnt much of a passing team, michigan has proven they can stop almost anyone running. Example being PJ Hill from wisconsin, only managed 54 yards on the UM defense.
 

b0mbrman

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: hdeck
people are way too quick to crown WVU. they haven't played (let alone beaten) a single ranked team this year. beat Louisville, Pitt, and Rutgers, and then you can make your case for the title game.
I'm not disagreeing that WVU still needs to put in work, BUT they have beaten all of their unranked teams pretty bad in comparison to other "better teams" like USC. For example, WVU absolutely trounced #47 on this list, Maryland as well as #61 Syracuse whereas #3 USC barely squirted by #37 Ariz St and #41 Washington. So while it is too early to tell, I still think WVU is way stronger than USC as well as any of the other teams in the Big East. My case in point was last game where UConn was putting 9 men in the box to stop the run and still got beat down (albeit UConn was successful on the first couple drives of the game), Maryland and Syracuse were doing the same thing as well. We're still talking about Div 1 teams with decent defenses/coaches who know you will run but can't stop it no matter what.

USC has been down two starting receivers and a backup receiver who usually gets played the past few weeks. However, they had a bye this past weekend which gives their receivers two weeks to rest up.

Mark my words: If you're basing USC's strength on their performance over their last three games, you will be shocked at how well they do in their next game.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
WVU fan checking in to remind you that the title game will still be WVU/OSU. Not much changed this week except Michigan got a good scare from mediocre Iowa. I'd love to see USC or Michigan play WVU right now.

LOL! Dream on. I haven't heard anyone actually entertain such a ludicrous idea. They'll play in a weak BCS bowl like Utah did 2 years ago.
Read above, WVU has trounced their unranked opponents whereas USC needed last quarter heroics to beat the mighty (lol) Ariz St. and Washington. And Michigan needed last Q heroics vs Iowa at HOME no less. WVU would have trounced Iowa at Mountaineer Field IMO.

while I agree usc has struggled this season, arizona state, Washington and wsu are all better than eastern washington , east Carolina , and marshall (teams wvu trounced), by a big margin. so trouncing pathetic teams doesn't make your team better
Um, forgetting about Syracuse (almost beat Iowa in 2OT) and Maryland? They are much closer to the patheticness (yes I made up that word) that is AZ State and UW. USC would not, could not, and not in million years stop the speed of WVU's offense (4 WR/QB/RB that run 4.42 speed or less). Even though they did study Rodriguez's spread offense in Morgantown in the offseason. ;)

 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
WVU fan checking in to remind you that the title game will still be WVU/OSU. Not much changed this week except Michigan got a good scare from mediocre Iowa. I'd love to see USC or Michigan play WVU right now.

LOL! Dream on. I haven't heard anyone actually entertain such a ludicrous idea. They'll play in a weak BCS bowl like Utah did 2 years ago.
Read above, WVU has trounced their unranked opponents whereas USC needed last quarter heroics to beat the mighty (lol) Ariz St. and Washington. And Michigan needed last Q heroics vs Iowa at HOME no less. WVU would have trounced Iowa at Mountaineer Field IMO.

Iowa is a better team than you think. They gave Michigan a damn good game and the Wolverines are lightyears ahead of WVU.
You mean the same Iowa team that barely beat Syracuse in double OT(LOL and threw four INT's? WVU had 461 yards rushing vs Syracuse, you do the math on what they would do to Iowa.

IIRC, Iowa was decimated by injuries for that game.

Do you follow college football in general or just WVU?
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
WVU fan checking in to remind you that the title game will still be WVU/OSU. Not much changed this week except Michigan got a good scare from mediocre Iowa. I'd love to see USC or Michigan play WVU right now.

LOL! Dream on. I haven't heard anyone actually entertain such a ludicrous idea. They'll play in a weak BCS bowl like Utah did 2 years ago.
Read above, WVU has trounced their unranked opponents whereas USC needed last quarter heroics to beat the mighty (lol) Ariz St. and Washington. And Michigan needed last Q heroics vs Iowa at HOME no less. WVU would have trounced Iowa at Mountaineer Field IMO.

Rodriguez's spread offense in Morgantown in the offseason. ;)

You keep bringing this up...people studying another offense is really no big f'ing deal. That's like making a big deal because a team that historically plays a 4-3 defense studies and switches to a 3-4. BFD.
 

mpitts

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
WVU fan checking in to remind you that the title game will still be WVU/OSU. Not much changed this week except Michigan got a good scare from mediocre Iowa. I'd love to see USC or Michigan play WVU right now.

I'd love to see WVU match up against Auburn or Florida. Steve Slaton and Pat White would be entirely average against the defensive speed those two team put on the field...we just won't talk abou WVU's defense or lack thereof.

They destroyed the defense of the SEC champions last year.

I am a huge Michgan fan (duh), and I wouldn't want to see WVU. Michigan's run D has been awesome all year and they have shut down some good backs, but Slaton and White would worry me.

 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: mpitts
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
WVU fan checking in to remind you that the title game will still be WVU/OSU. Not much changed this week except Michigan got a good scare from mediocre Iowa. I'd love to see USC or Michigan play WVU right now.

I'd love to see WVU match up against Auburn or Florida. Steve Slaton and Pat White would be entirely average against the defensive speed those two team put on the field...we just won't talk abou WVU's defense or lack thereof.

They destroyed the defense of the SEC champions last year.

This is a new year. Last year's bowl results have no bearing on the current state of the teams.

Now go away or I'll stop praising Michigan and go back to insulting your team in the goofy looking helmets. ;)
 

kalster

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
WVU fan checking in to remind you that the title game will still be WVU/OSU. Not much changed this week except Michigan got a good scare from mediocre Iowa. I'd love to see USC or Michigan play WVU right now.

LOL! Dream on. I haven't heard anyone actually entertain such a ludicrous idea. They'll play in a weak BCS bowl like Utah did 2 years ago.
Read above, WVU has trounced their unranked opponents whereas USC needed last quarter heroics to beat the mighty (lol) Ariz St. and Washington. And Michigan needed last Q heroics vs Iowa at HOME no less. WVU would have trounced Iowa at Mountaineer Field IMO.

while I agree usc has struggled this season, arizona state, Washington and wsu are all better than eastern washington , east Carolina , and marshall (teams wvu trounced), by a big margin. so trouncing pathetic teams doesn't make your team better
Um, forgetting about Syracuse (almost beat Iowa in 2OT) and Maryland? They are much closer to the patheticness (yes I made up that word) that is AZ State and UW. USC would not, could not, and not in million years stop the speed of WVU's offense (4 WR/QB/RB that run 4.42 speed or less). Even though they did study Rodriguez's spread offense in Morgantown in the offseason. ;)

what makes you think wvu and their defense can stop steve smith and jarrett (if they are both healthy).
 

mpitts

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: mpitts
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
WVU fan checking in to remind you that the title game will still be WVU/OSU. Not much changed this week except Michigan got a good scare from mediocre Iowa. I'd love to see USC or Michigan play WVU right now.

I'd love to see WVU match up against Auburn or Florida. Steve Slaton and Pat White would be entirely average against the defensive speed those two team put on the field...we just won't talk abou WVU's defense or lack thereof.

They destroyed the defense of the SEC champions last year.

This is a new year. Last year's bowl results have no bearing on the current state of the teams.

Now go away or I'll stop praising Michigan and go back to insulting your team in the goofy looking helmets. ;)

:D

Yes sir.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: Feldenak

IIRC, Iowa was decimated by injuries for that game.

Do you follow college football in general or just WVU?
Name EXACTLY who was injured aside from Tate. Ever heard the saying, one man a team does not make? They had Sims and Young, their starting backs. They had their best receiver (TE Chandler). To have to use a goal line stand versus SYRACUSE in 2OT is absolutely pathetic, and the notion that you would even blame the game on "injuries" is hilarious. The B Team should have trounced Syracuse, they are the whipping boy of the Big East. Iowa is overrated and WVU would absolutely destroy them at Mountaineer Field. Hell, Iowa lost to freaking INDIANA who is ranked even lower than SYRACUSE on Dullard's list (61 vs 67). Now I have to ask, do you follow college football in general or just Iowa?

 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
WVU fan checking in to remind you that the title game will still be WVU/OSU. Not much changed this week except Michigan got a good scare from mediocre Iowa. I'd love to see USC or Michigan play WVU right now.

LOL! Dream on. I haven't heard anyone actually entertain such a ludicrous idea. They'll play in a weak BCS bowl like Utah did 2 years ago.
Read above, WVU has trounced their unranked opponents whereas USC needed last quarter heroics to beat the mighty (lol) Ariz St. and Washington. And Michigan needed last Q heroics vs Iowa at HOME no less. WVU would have trounced Iowa at Mountaineer Field IMO.

while I agree usc has struggled this season, arizona state, Washington and wsu are all better than eastern washington , east Carolina , and marshall (teams wvu trounced), by a big margin. so trouncing pathetic teams doesn't make your team better
Um, forgetting about Syracuse (almost beat Iowa in 2OT) and Maryland? They are much closer to the patheticness (yes I made up that word) that is AZ State and UW. USC would not, could not, and not in million years stop the speed of WVU's offense (4 WR/QB/RB that run 4.42 speed or less). Even though they did study Rodriguez's spread offense in Morgantown in the offseason. ;)

what makes you think wvu and their defense can stop steve smith and jarrett (if they are both healthy).
If schmuck teams like AZ State and Wash could, why couldn't WVU?

 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Feldenak

IIRC, Iowa was decimated by injuries for that game.

Do you follow college football in general or just WVU?
Name EXACTLY who was injured aside from Tate. Ever heard the saying, one man a team does not make? They had Sims and Young, their starting backs. They had their best receiver (TE Chandler). To have to use a goal line stand versus SYRACUSE in 2OT is absolutely pathetic, and the notion that you would even blame the game on "injuries" is hilarious. The B Team should have trounced Syracuse, they are the whipping boy of the Big East. Iowa is overrated and WVU would absolutely destroy them at Mountaineer Field. Hell, Iowa lost to freaking INDIANA who is ranked even lower than SYRACUSE on Dullard's list (61 vs 67). Now I have to ask, do you follow college football in general or just Iowa?

Me? I don't even really follow Iowa.

I'll concede the Tate injury but that would also explain the 4 INTs you made a big deal about...the Indiana game, hell I have no idea. But you thinking they wouldn't even last on the same field as WVU is ludicrous.
 

BlancoNino

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Um, forgetting about Syracuse (almost beat Iowa in 2OT) and Maryland? They are much closer to the patheticness (yes I made up that word) that is AZ State and UW. USC would not, could not, and not in million years stop the speed of WVU's offense (4 WR/QB/RB that run 4.42 speed or less). Even though they did study Rodriguez's spread offense in Morgantown in the offseason. ;)

All I read was that you called UW "pathetic". They're .500 right now and almost beat USC and Cal. Until UWV wins a national championship, has 27 straight non-losing seasons, and has a more respectable bowl history...please STFU about Washington. They haven't come close to accomplishing what they have.
 

kalster

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
WVU fan checking in to remind you that the title game will still be WVU/OSU. Not much changed this week except Michigan got a good scare from mediocre Iowa. I'd love to see USC or Michigan play WVU right now.

LOL! Dream on. I haven't heard anyone actually entertain such a ludicrous idea. They'll play in a weak BCS bowl like Utah did 2 years ago.
Read above, WVU has trounced their unranked opponents whereas USC needed last quarter heroics to beat the mighty (lol) Ariz St. and Washington. And Michigan needed last Q heroics vs Iowa at HOME no less. WVU would have trounced Iowa at Mountaineer Field IMO.

while I agree usc has struggled this season, arizona state, Washington and wsu are all better than eastern washington , east Carolina , and marshall (teams wvu trounced), by a big margin. so trouncing pathetic teams doesn't make your team better
Um, forgetting about Syracuse (almost beat Iowa in 2OT) and Maryland? They are much closer to the patheticness (yes I made up that word) that is AZ State and UW. USC would not, could not, and not in million years stop the speed of WVU's offense (4 WR/QB/RB that run 4.42 speed or less). Even though they did study Rodriguez's spread offense in Morgantown in the offseason. ;)

what makes you think wvu and their defense can stop steve smith and jarrett (if they are both healthy).
If schmuck teams like AZ State and Wash could, why couldn't WVU?

read the part where I said both healthy, do you know how many injuries usc has had
 

TraumaRN

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Feldenak

IIRC, Iowa was decimated by injuries for that game.

Do you follow college football in general or just WVU?
Name EXACTLY who was injured aside from Tate. Ever heard the saying, one man a team does not make? They had Sims and Young, their starting backs. They had their best receiver (TE Chandler). To have to use a goal line stand versus SYRACUSE in 2OT is absolutely pathetic, and the notion that you would even blame the game on "injuries" is hilarious. The B Team should have trounced Syracuse, they are the whipping boy of the Big East. Iowa is overrated and WVU would absolutely destroy them at Mountaineer Field. Hell, Iowa lost to freaking INDIANA who is ranked even lower than SYRACUSE on Dullard's list (61 vs 67). Now I have to ask, do you follow college football in general or just Iowa?

I like how u conveniently pound on Iowa and ignore all the posts concerning UM vs WVU.

Seriously what your opinion of WVU vs UM.

Cuz I have a hunch that if UM stops the running game of WVU, well ballgames over.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Um, forgetting about Syracuse (almost beat Iowa in 2OT) and Maryland? They are much closer to the patheticness (yes I made up that word) that is AZ State and UW. USC would not, could not, and not in million years stop the speed of WVU's offense (4 WR/QB/RB that run 4.42 speed or less). Even though they did study Rodriguez's spread offense in Morgantown in the offseason. ;)

All I read was that you called UW "pathetic". They're .500 right now and almost beat USC and Cal. Until UWV wins a national championship, has 27 straight non-losing seasons, and has a more respectable bowl history...please STFU about Washington. They haven't come close to accomplishing what they have.
I love people like you who live in the past... are you sure you don't go to Notre Dame, Alabama, or USC? Nobody gives a crap about your 27 seasons and championship, all that matters is that WVU and OSU have the longest active winning streaks in the nation.

IF Washington wanted to earn some respect, they shouldn't have lost to Oregon State and needed a last quarter extra point block to barely beat the mighty Fresno State. A 2-3 record in your conference is nothing to write home to mom about, although a .500 season is much better than finishing 2-9 like last year.
 

Thraxen

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Even though it's one of the only ways you have to compare teams that haven't played, comparing stats/scores of common opponents is usually an exercise in futility. Here's an example:

WVU beat E. Carolina 27-10 (17 point victory)
Tulsa beat E. Carolina 31-10 (21 point victory)
BYU beat Tulsa 49-24 (25 point victory)

Is Tulsa better, or even as good as, WVU? Is BYU 29 points better than WVU? No way on both counts.

You can find dozens of such examples easily. So while it maybe entertaining to compare stats and common opponents, some of you guys need to realize that what happened in one game is usually no gauge for how another game will turn out. So all this talk about who did what to Iowa, or what WVU did to Georgia (last season no less!!), etc... is ultimately pointless.

Thanks for listening.
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Um, forgetting about Syracuse (almost beat Iowa in 2OT) and Maryland? They are much closer to the patheticness (yes I made up that word) that is AZ State and UW. USC would not, could not, and not in million years stop the speed of WVU's offense (4 WR/QB/RB that run 4.42 speed or less). Even though they did study Rodriguez's spread offense in Morgantown in the offseason. ;)

All I read was that you called UW "pathetic". They're .500 right now and almost beat USC and Cal. Until UWV wins a national championship, has 27 straight non-losing seasons, and has a more respectable bowl history...please STFU about Washington. They haven't come close to accomplishing what they have.
I love people like you who live in the past... are you sure you don't go to Notre Dame, Alabama, or USC? Nobody gives a crap about your 27 seasons and championship, all that matters is that WVU and OSU have the longest active winning streaks in the nation.

IF Washington wanted to earn some respect, they shouldn't have lost to Oregon State and needed a last quarter extra point block to barely beat the mighty Fresno State. A 2-3 record in your conference is nothing to write home to mom about, although a .500 season is much better than finishing 2-9 like last year.

Good job on picking & choosing your battles. Still avoiding the Michigan question?
 

kalster

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Um, forgetting about Syracuse (almost beat Iowa in 2OT) and Maryland? They are much closer to the patheticness (yes I made up that word) that is AZ State and UW. USC would not, could not, and not in million years stop the speed of WVU's offense (4 WR/QB/RB that run 4.42 speed or less). Even though they did study Rodriguez's spread offense in Morgantown in the offseason. ;)

All I read was that you called UW "pathetic". They're .500 right now and almost beat USC and Cal. Until UWV wins a national championship, has 27 straight non-losing seasons, and has a more respectable bowl history...please STFU about Washington. They haven't come close to accomplishing what they have.
I love people like you who live in the past... are you sure you don't go to Notre Dame, Alabama, or USC? Nobody gives a crap about your 27 seasons and championship, all that matters is that WVU and OSU have the longest active winning streaks in the nation.

IF Washington wanted to earn some respect, they shouldn't have lost to Oregon State and needed a last quarter extra point block to barely beat the mighty Fresno State. A 2-3 record in your conference is nothing to write home to mom about, although a .500 season is much better than finishing 2-9 like last year.

we'll see how close wvu gets to usc's 34 game win streak that was active till end of last season, this is not too far back in the past right, or if wvu's home streak comes close to usc's current 30 home win streak.
 

BlancoNino

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
I love people like you who live in the past... are you sure you don't go to Notre Dame, Alabama, or USC? Nobody gives a crap about your 27 seasons and championship, all that matters is that WVU and OSU have the longest active winning streaks in the nation.

IF Washington wanted to earn some respect, they shouldn't have lost to Oregon State and needed a last quarter extra point block to barely beat the mighty Fresno State. A 2-3 record in your conference is nothing to write home to mom about, although a .500 season is much better than finishing 2-9 like last year.

The last 2 years are a result of coaching changes, injuries, players leaving, and overall confusion due to the firing of Neuheisel.

And actually people DO give a crap about all of that. I'll admit Washington has had to rebuild over the past couple years because of all the changes, but that doesn't mean they are "pathetic".
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
WVU fan checking in to remind you that the title game will still be WVU/OSU. Not much changed this week except Michigan got a good scare from mediocre Iowa. I'd love to see USC or Michigan play WVU right now.

LOL! Dream on. I haven't heard anyone actually entertain such a ludicrous idea. They'll play in a weak BCS bowl like Utah did 2 years ago.
Read above, WVU has trounced their unranked opponents whereas USC needed last quarter heroics to beat the mighty (lol) Ariz St. and Washington. And Michigan needed last Q heroics vs Iowa at HOME no less. WVU would have trounced Iowa at Mountaineer Field IMO.

while I agree usc has struggled this season, arizona state, Washington and wsu are all better than eastern washington , east Carolina , and marshall (teams wvu trounced), by a big margin. so trouncing pathetic teams doesn't make your team better
Um, forgetting about Syracuse (almost beat Iowa in 2OT) and Maryland? They are much closer to the patheticness (yes I made up that word) that is AZ State and UW. USC would not, could not, and not in million years stop the speed of WVU's offense (4 WR/QB/RB that run 4.42 speed or less). Even though they did study Rodriguez's spread offense in Morgantown in the offseason. ;)

what makes you think wvu and their defense can stop steve smith and jarrett (if they are both healthy).
If schmuck teams like AZ State and Wash could, why couldn't WVU?

read the part where I said both healthy, do you know how many injuries usc has had
So Smith and Jarrett are both Heisman hopefuls? For example, if Troy Smith or Quinn or Slaton went down then you could pull the injury card. I don't think you can give a player that much respect unless they are getting Heisman votes. Also, when's the last time a WR won a Heisman? Don't get me wrong, I think they're talented, but I don't think you can play the injury card in this case.

 

Thraxen

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: kalster
read the part where I said both healthy, do you know how many injuries usc has had
So Smith and Jarrett are both Heisman hopefuls? For example, if Troy Smith or Quinn or Slaton went down then you could pull the injury card. I don't think you can give a player that much respect unless they are getting Heisman votes. Also, when's the last time a WR won a Heisman? Don't get me wrong, I think they're talented, but I don't think you can play the injury card in this case.

That and USC having an injury just means another blue chipper takes his place... LOL.

 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: Thraxen
Even though it's one of the only ways you have to compare teams that haven't played, comparing stats/scores of common opponents is usually an exercise in futility. Here's an example:

WVU beat E. Carolina 27-10 (17 point victory)
Tulsa beat E. Carolina 31-10 (21 point victory)
BYU beat Tulsa 49-24 (25 point victory)

Is Tulsa better, or even as good as, WVU? Is BYU 29 points better than WVU? No way on both counts.

You can find dozens of such examples easily. So while it maybe entertaining to compare stats and common opponents, some of you guys need to realize that what happened in one game is usually no gauge for how another game will turn out. So all this talk about who did what to Iowa, or what WVU did to Georgia (last season no less!!), etc... is ultimately pointless.

Thanks for listening.
It's all just food for thought, no doubt. But if you seriously think that Iowa wouldn't get ass-whipped by WVU after losing to Indiana and barely beating Syracuse, then you probably go to Iowa or Michigan.