Dullard's College Football - Week 15

dullard

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Not much to say this week - virtually every team that played last week did as they were predicted. No major upsets or anything interesting to talk about (I guess there was Virginia over Virginia Tech, but my computer has always said VT wasn't very good). LSU finally put in a good performance and bumped itself ahead of Georgia in both optimizations this week - which should make some readers happy. I still think that if Georgia played again like they did last time they met LSU, then LSU will lose.

Up to now, I've been lazy and really had no baseline for the rankings. It is now set so that the bottom 1A team (Army) has a value of zero, and all the rankings are the number of points that each team is expected to beat Army. Since all predictions are subtractions of two rankings, moving the baseline has no effect at all on the predictions.

Place Win / Ranking Win ( Place Score / Ranking Score ) Team name
01 / 51.2 ( 01 / 61.3 ) Oklahoma
02 / 49.3 ( 02 / 56.5 ) Southern California
03 / 45.9 ( 03 / 55.2 ) LSU
04 / 44.9 ( 06 / 51.3 ) Georgia
05 / 44.5 ( 04 / 51.9 ) Michigan
06 / 43.7 ( 05 / 51.3 ) Florida St.
07 / 42.8 ( 12 / 45.7 ) Ohio St.
08 / 42.6 ( 07 / 50.6 ) Texas
09 / 41.4 ( 09 / 47.3 ) Miami Florida
10 / 41.0 ( 08 / 49.9 ) Kansas St.
11 / 40.9 ( 14 / 45.2 ) Tennessee
12 / 40.9 ( 10 / 47.1 ) Miami Ohio
13 / 40.7 ( 11 / 45.9 ) Iowa
14 / 39.8 ( 16 / 43.8 ) Purdue
15 / 39.8 ( 17 / 43.7 ) Washington St.
16 / 39.5 ( 20 / 42.6 ) Utah
17 / 39.0 ( 15 / 44.7 ) Boise St.
18 / 37.8 ( 19 / 43.0 ) Nebraska
19 / 37.5 ( 13 / 45.2 ) Minnesota
20 / 37.3 ( 21 / 42.5 ) Maryland
21 / 36.7 ( 24 / 41.9 ) Oklahoma St.
22 / 36.1 ( 22 / 42.5 ) Mississippi
23 / 36.1 ( 18 / 43.3 ) Arkansas
24 / 36.1 ( 23 / 42.3 ) Florida
25 / 35.6 ( 26 / 40.7 ) Michigan St.
26 / 34.9 ( 27 / 40.6 ) Clemson
27 / 34.9 ( 40 / 36.7 ) Bowling Green
28 / 34.6 ( 43 / 34.8 ) TCU
29 / 34.2 ( 31 / 39.0 ) West Virginia
30 / 34.2 ( 41 / 35.4 ) Oregon
31 / 33.7 ( 34 / 38.8 ) Wisconsin
32 / 33.6 ( 25 / 40.9 ) Virginia Tech
33 / 33.2 ( 44 / 34.4 ) Southern Miss
34 / 33.0 ( 36 / 38.1 ) New Mexico
35 / 33.0 ( 38 / 37.0 ) Pittsburgh
36 / 32.8 ( 29 / 39.8 ) California
37 / 32.8 ( 33 / 38.9 ) Oregon St.
38 / 32.7 ( 35 / 38.2 ) North Carolina St.
39 / 32.6 ( 30 / 39.1 ) Virginia
40 / 32.4 ( 32 / 38.9 ) Missouri
41 / 32.4 ( 28 / 40.0 ) Auburn
42 / 32.3 ( 37 / 37.7 ) Texas Tech
43 / 31.9 ( 39 / 36.8 ) Colorado St.
44 / 31.4 ( 42 / 35.0 ) Connecticut
45 / 31.1 ( 46 / 33.6 ) Northern Illinois
46 / 30.9 ( 47 / 33.5 ) Notre Dame
47 / 30.3 ( 53 / 32.0 ) Louisville
48 / 29.9 ( 45 / 34.2 ) Boston College
49 / 29.4 ( 48 / 33.5 ) Air Force
50 / 28.7 ( 56 / 31.2 ) Marshall
51 / 28.6 ( 58 / 30.9 ) North Texas
52 / 28.5 ( 50 / 32.3 ) Georgia Tech
53 / 28.3 ( 51 / 32.1 ) Washington
54 / 28.1 ( 61 / 30.2 ) Hawaii
55 / 27.9 ( 64 / 29.7 ) Northwestern
56 / 27.8 ( 49 / 32.3 ) Memphis
57 / 27.7 ( 59 / 30.5 ) UCLA
58 / 27.3 ( 66 / 29.5 ) Tulsa
59 / 27.2 ( 67 / 29.5 ) Toledo
60 / 27.0 ( 54 / 31.7 ) Navy
61 / 26.7 ( 65 / 29.6 ) UNLV
62 / 26.6 ( 60 / 30.5 ) Kansas
63 / 26.6 ( 55 / 31.7 ) South Carolina
64 / 25.9 ( 62 / 29.9 ) Colorado
65 / 25.9 ( 57 / 31.1 ) Wake Forest
66 / 25.7 ( 71 / 27.2 ) Fresno St.
67 / 25.1 ( 68 / 28.4 ) San Diego St.
68 / 24.7 ( 52 / 32.1 ) Alabama
69 / 24.6 ( 63 / 29.8 ) Syracuse
70 / 24.2 ( 69 / 27.7 ) Arizona St.
71 / 23.9 ( 75 / 24.3 ) Houston
72 / 23.0 ( 77 / 23.8 ) Stanford
73 / 22.4 ( 78 / 23.6 ) South Florida
74 / 22.3 ( 72 / 26.2 ) Rutgers
75 / 22.1 ( 74 / 24.7 ) Brigham Young
76 / 21.3 ( 80 / 22.6 ) Texas A&M
77 / 21.2 ( 81 / 21.9 ) Nevada
78 / 21.2 ( 76 / 23.9 ) Akron
79 / 21.1 ( 70 / 27.4 ) Penn St.
80 / 19.9 ( 84 / 21.0 ) Louisiana Tech
81 / 19.9 ( 86 / 20.6 ) UAB
82 / 19.8 ( 79 / 23.5 ) Wyoming
83 / 19.3 ( 73 / 25.9 ) Kentucky
84 / 19.2 ( 83 / 21.2 ) Duke
85 / 18.7 ( 87 / 20.2 ) Rice
86 / 18.5 ( 82 / 21.3 ) Cincinnati
87 / 18.4 ( 89 / 18.3 ) Troy St.
88 / 18.0 ( 85 / 20.8 ) Western Michigan
89 / 16.9 ( 93 / 17.0 ) Tulane
90 / 16.2 ( 91 / 17.6 ) Kent St.
91 / 15.4 ( 94 / 15.9 ) Arizona
92 / 14.6 ( 88 / 18.7 ) North Carolina
93 / 14.3 ( 101 / 13.8 ) Baylor
94 / 14.3 ( 99 / 14.3 ) Ball St.
95 / 14.2 ( 92 / 17.6 ) Middle Tennessee
96 / 14.1 ( 98 / 14.7 ) Iowa St.
97 / 13.8 ( 97 / 15.0 ) San Jose St.
98 / 13.2 ( 90 / 17.7 ) Vanderbilt
99 / 12.8 ( 105 / 12.9 ) Mississippi St.
100 / 12.6 ( 96 / 15.4 ) Illinois
101 / 12.3 ( 106 / 12.8 ) Louisiana-Lafayette
102 / 12.1 ( 100 / 13.9 ) Indiana
103 / 11.6 ( 95 / 15.4 ) Utah St.
104 / 10.1 ( 102 / 13.8 ) Idaho
105 / 10.1 ( 108 / 8.9 ) Arkansas St.
106 / 9.7 ( 103 / 13.6 ) New Mexico St.
107 / 8.8 ( 104 / 13.6 ) Temple
108 / 7.8 ( 109 / 8.8 ) UCF
109 / 7.5 ( 111 / 6.6 ) Eastern Michigan
110 / 7.2 ( 110 / 8.1 ) Central Michigan
111 / 6.9 ( 107 / 10.4 ) Ohio
112 / 4.9 ( 112 / 6.4 ) East Carolina
113 / 4.3 ( 114 / 4.0 ) Buffalo
114 / 3.1 ( 113 / 4.8 ) Louisiana Monroe
115 / 3.0 ( 116 / 1.3 ) UTEP
116 / 2.5 ( 115 / 3.0 ) SMU
117 / 0.0 ( 117 / 0.0 ) Army
 

Alkaline5

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LSU is pretty much screwed now that the UGA rematch is official. Any slim hope they had of sneaking past a one-loss USC will evaporate no matter the outcome of the game.

Does anyone happen to know the student ticket alotment for the Big 12 Championship? The SEC student alotment is only a ridiculous 1,500 tickets per school so once again I am left to watch the game on TV :(
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: Alkaline5
LSU is pretty much screwed now that the UGA rematch is official. Any slim hope they had of sneaking past a one-loss USC will evaporate no matter the outcome of the game.

Does anyone happen to know the student ticket alotment for the Big 12 Championship? The SEC student alotment is only a ridiculous 1,500 tickets per school so once again I am left to watch the game on TV :(

That just means the BCS will revise their formulas yet again like they do every year when they fvck over teams
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: Alkaline5
LSU is pretty much screwed now that the UGA rematch is official. Any slim hope they had of sneaking past a one-loss USC will evaporate no matter the outcome of the game.

Does anyone happen to know the student ticket alotment for the Big 12 Championship? The SEC student alotment is only a ridiculous 1,500 tickets per school so once again I am left to watch the game on TV :(
All the more reason that the BCS needs to be changed: (1) for the quality wins to cover more than just the top 10, and (2) so that the top X teams in the BCS play in a playoff.

As for tickets, I don't know anything about them. I cannot stand watching football in person so I don't pay attention to tickets.
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
That just means the BCS will revise their formulas yet again like they do every year when they fvck over teams
The BCS has one sole purpose: to get the top two rated teams to play each other in a bowl game. OU and USC are ranked #1 and #2 in both polls. So in that sense, the BCS worked perfectly. Of course since I don't agree with its original goal (only choosing the top 2 teams and ignoring the rest), so I don't agree with its outcome.
 

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Actually, LSU playing Georgia may not be as bad as I (and other people thought) for them. The only other team that LSU could have played was Florida. However, since Georgia is a much higher ranked opponent then Florida, LSUs SOS will get better. It could be as much as .4 points, which is the quality win bonus that they would lose by playing Georgia. If Georgia only falls to 9th or 10th, then LSU gets the SOS advantage plus a quality win.
 

Balt

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Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Actually, LSU playing Georgia may not be as bad as I (and other people thought) for them. The only other team that LSU could have played was Florida. However, since Georgia is a much higher ranked opponent then Florida, LSUs SOS will get better. It could be as much as .4 points, which is the quality win bonus that they would lose by playing Georgia. If Georgia only falls to 9th or 10th, then LSU gets the SOS advantage plus a quality win.

I heard some sports commentator on CBS say that since LSU has already beaten Georgia, beating them again won't help them much in any respect.

That doesn't seem right, but could it be true?

I think LSU needs to hope that they can pound on Georgia so much that they can sway the pollsters.

 

dullard

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Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Actually, LSU playing Georgia may not be as bad as I (and other people thought) for them. The only other team that LSU could have played was Florida. However, since Georgia is a much higher ranked opponent then Florida, LSUs SOS will get better. It could be as much as .4 points, which is the quality win bonus that they would lose by playing Georgia. If Georgia only falls to 9th or 10th, then LSU gets the SOS advantage plus a quality win.
I thought that Tennessee could have also been in the game, if it were higher than Georgia in the BCS - maybe I'm wrong though. You'd have to think that with another loss, Georgia would get about 8.5 more BCS points. That looks like it will put Georgia at 10th place. There will be such a gap between 10th and 11th, I cannot imagine that Georgia will drop any further than that. However, I wouldn't see Georgia (with 3 losses) above Miami (with 2 losses). Thus Georgia couldn't be above 10th either. Thus LSU's quality win points will very likely drop from 0.4 to 0.1.

Where'd you get that 0.4 point number from? Yes Georgia has a two more wins than Florida, but Florida has played a much tougher schedule than Georgia (remember opponents of opponents count). Thus without doing the math myself, I'd expect them to be about equal boosts to LSU's SOS. I cannot see Georgia moving LSU up ten more places than Florida would.
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: Balt
I heard some sports commentator on CBS say that since LSU has already beaten Georgia, beating them again won't help them much in any respect.

That doesn't seem right, but could it be true?
I'm pretty sure that in the original BCS that was correct. However that error was quickly spotted and changed. So yes you can get double the SOS points for playing a team twice. In that sense many commentators were quite incorrect last week.

However the way computers operate, the way the voters operate, and the way the quality wins operates, I cannot see them getting much of a boost from beating someone twice (ie, LSU is already #2 in many computers, and beating Georgia again won't move them ahead of Oklahoma).

From bcsfootball.com:
"If a team registers a victory over a team more than once during the regular season, quality points will be awarded just once"
 

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Originally posted by: Balt

I heard some sports commentator on CBS say that since LSU has already beaten Georgia, beating them again won't help them much in any respect.

That doesn't seem right, but could it be true?

I think LSU needs to hope that they can pound on Georgia so much that they can sway the pollsters.

yes, apparently if they beat georgia twice there is a clause that says it negates their original quality win bonus (because apparently its not a "quality" win if you prove you can easily defeat a team?). even if they clobber georgia and swap spots with usc in the human polls they still would need alot of help from the computers
 

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Interesting. You've got Clemson at 26 and Florida at 24. As far as I know, that looks like it's going to be the matchup in the Peach Bowl and according to your rankings, it looks like it will be a good game. I hope so :) Go Tigers!
 

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Originally posted by: TC2181
So what are K-states chances this weekend...neutral field @kansas city
I'd say K-State has no chance at all. While my computer says K-State is going to be about the toughest game so far for OU (basically tied with Texas), things really aren't going to be very close for K-State. K-State's ALL TIME record against higher ranked teams is 1 win and nearly 80 losses. Except that one win really shouldn't count (since it is against Nebraska which is actually ranked lower than K-State). Therefore K-State has never in its history gone on the road and beaten a team ranked higher than them. K-State's rise to fame began by scheduling cupcakes and winning all their games until the end of the season game and their bowl game (which K-State proceeded to lose over and over). Yes they are a good team, but still they aren't as good as many people may think. As soon as K-State can regularly beat teams ranked high (with at least a 33% success rate), they will remain overrated.

Lets look at K-States games this year:
1) California 7-6,
2) Troy State 6-6 (some of those wins were 1AA teams),
3) McNeese State (a 1AA team),
4) Massachusetts (another 1AA team),
5) Lost to Marshal 8-4,
6) Lost to Texas 10-2,
7) Lost to Oklahoma State 9-3,
8) Colorado 5-7,
9) Kansas 6-6,
10) Baylor 3-9,
11) Iowa State 2-10,
12) Nebraska 9-3,
13) Missouri 8-4.

Look at 1-4 and 8-11. Can you say cupcake?

However, Oklahoma has nothing to play for, and K-State is playing for a chance to go to a great bowl. So it will likely be close. I say Oklahoma by 15.
 
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Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: TC2181
So what are K-states chances this weekend...neutral field @kansas city
I'd say K-State has no chance at all. While my computer says K-State is going to be about the toughest game so far for OU (basically tied with Texas), things really aren't going to be very close for K-State. K-State's ALL TIME record against higher ranked teams is 1 win and nearly 80 losses. Except that one win really shouldn't count (since it is against Nebraska which is actually ranked lower than K-State). Therefore K-State has never in its history gone on the road and beaten a team ranked higher than them. K-State's rise to fame began by scheduling cupcakes and winning all their games until the end of the season game and their bowl game (which K-State proceeded to lose over and over). Yes they are a good team, but still they aren't as good as many people may think. As soon as K-State can regularly beat teams ranked high (with at least a 33% success rate), they will remain overrated.

Lets look at K-States games this year:
1) California 7-6,
2) Troy State 6-6 (some of those wins were 1AA teams),
3) McNeese State (a 1AA team),
4) Massachusetts (another 1AA team),
5) Lost to Marshal 8-4,
6) Lost to Texas 10-2,
7) Lost to Oklahoma State 9-3,
8) Colorado 5-7,
9) Kansas 6-6,
10) Baylor 3-9,
11) Iowa State 2-10,
12) Nebraska 9-3,
13) Missouri 8-4.

Look at 1-4 and 8-11. Can you say cupcake?

However, Oklahoma has nothing to play for, and K-State is playing for a chance to go to a great bowl. So it will likely be close. I say Oklahoma by 15.


Whaaa whaa whaa!! Cupcakes! Interesting how K-State's SOS is currently 29th in the nation. Compare to Oklahoma at 14, USC at 37 and LSU at 54. Year in and year out KSU has a SOS at bowl time that most of the NCAA can't surpass, yet everyone play the cupcake card. Oh, and teams 8-11 are conference opponents, so you can't complain about KSU scheduling those! And I think if you check the Sagarin ratings, our non-conference oppnents and even the 1-AA schools we have played are superior in the ratings than much of the 1-A field.
 

mpitts

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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: TC2181
So what are K-states chances this weekend...neutral field @kansas city
I'd say K-State has no chance at all. While my computer says K-State is going to be about the toughest game so far for OU (basically tied with Texas), things really aren't going to be very close for K-State. K-State's ALL TIME record against higher ranked teams is 1 win and nearly 80 losses. Except that one win really shouldn't count (since it is against Nebraska which is actually ranked lower than K-State). Therefore K-State has never in its history gone on the road and beaten a team ranked higher than them. K-State's rise to fame began by scheduling cupcakes and winning all their games until the end of the season game and their bowl game (which K-State proceeded to lose over and over). Yes they are a good team, but still they aren't as good as many people may think. As soon as K-State can regularly beat teams ranked high (with at least a 33% success rate), they will remain overrated.

Lets look at K-States games this year:
1) California 7-6,
2) Troy State 6-6 (some of those wins were 1AA teams),
3) McNeese State (a 1AA team),
4) Massachusetts (another 1AA team),
5) Lost to Marshal 8-4,
6) Lost to Texas 10-2,
7) Lost to Oklahoma State 9-3,
8) Colorado 5-7,
9) Kansas 6-6,
10) Baylor 3-9,
11) Iowa State 2-10,
12) Nebraska 9-3,
13) Missouri 8-4.

Look at 1-4 and 8-11. Can you say cupcake?

However, Oklahoma has nothing to play for, and K-State is playing for a chance to go to a great bowl. So it will likely be close. I say Oklahoma by 15.


Whaaa whaa whaa!! Cupcakes! Interesting how K-State's SOS is currently 29th in the nation. Compare to Oklahoma at 14, USC at 37 and LSU at 54. Year in and year out KSU has a SOS at bowl time that most of the NCAA can't surpass, yet everyone play the cupcake card. Oh, and teams 8-11 are conference opponents, so you can't complain about KSU scheduling those! And I think if you check the Sagarin ratings, our non-conference oppnents and even the 1-AA schools we have played are superior in the ratings than much of the 1-A field.

A quick check of the teams that K-State lost to tells me that can't beat good teams.

I'm sorry, but a non-conference schedule with 2 D1-AA teams, Troy State and Cal? That is pitiful. Oh, and the Wildcats lost to an average MAC team.

Their best win all year was against a offensively-challenged Nebraska team that, IMO, was overrated all year.

Once Bill Snyder can beat GOOD teams, maybe people will start to take their program seriously. Don't get me wrong, I like Roberson and Sproles a LOT, but they are not in the same class of teams as those in the top 10.
 

PlatinumGold

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i've said it several places, but i would LOVE to see UGA beat LSU (very possible) and Oregon state to beat USC (not as likely) because of what it would do to the BCS.

Could you imagine the outcome?? i guess Michican would probably get the #2 spot, but WOW, the confusion would be amazing.

with 2 losses, (one to cal and one to Oregon state) USC should be pretty much out of the picture.

LSU , UGA , Michigan , OSU and Texas where would you rank them??
 

Alkaline5

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
i've said it several places, but i would LOVE to see UGA beat LSU (very possible) and Oregon state to beat USC (not as likely) because of what it would do to the BCS.

Could you imagine the outcome?? i guess Michican would probably get the #2 spot, but WOW, the confusion would be amazing.

with 2 losses, (one to cal and one to Oregon state) USC should be pretty much out of the picture.

LSU , UGA , Michigan , OSU and Texas where would you rank them??

IMO in that scenario Michigan would go to the Sugar Bowl. UGA, Texas, and OSU are neck-and-neck right now which means that UGA would probably move into third behind Michigan with LSU falling a to 6.

USC isn't going to lose to the Beavers, though. They know what's on the line this Saturday.
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: Alkaline5
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
i've said it several places, but i would LOVE to see UGA beat LSU (very possible) and Oregon state to beat USC (not as likely) because of what it would do to the BCS.

Could you imagine the outcome?? i guess Michican would probably get the #2 spot, but WOW, the confusion would be amazing.

with 2 losses, (one to cal and one to Oregon state) USC should be pretty much out of the picture.

LSU , UGA , Michigan , OSU and Texas where would you rank them??

IMO in that scenario Michigan would go to the Sugar Bowl. UGA, Texas, and OSU are neck-and-neck right now which means that UGA would probably move into third behind Michigan with LSU falling a to 6.

USC isn't going to lose to the Beavers, though. They know what's on the line this Saturday.

they lost to cal so i'd say anything is possible, tho obviously if i had to put money on the game i'd put money on usc.
 

mpitts

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
i've said it several places, but i would LOVE to see UGA beat LSU (very possible) and Oregon state to beat USC (not as likely) because of what it would do to the BCS.

Could you imagine the outcome?? i guess Michican would probably get the #2 spot, but WOW, the confusion would be amazing.

with 2 losses, (one to cal and one to Oregon state) USC should be pretty much out of the picture.

LSU , UGA , Michigan , OSU and Texas where would you rank them??

Everything that I have read is that Michigan would probably make it to the Sugar Bowl. Georgia would have a shot too, but I think UM would benefit more because of OSU being ranked so high in the BCS, plus the fact that OSU would move up too. That would give Michigan a nice deduction from their total due to the QW. Plus Michigan will wind up with roughly the 12th most difficult rated schedule.

If USC and LSU both lost this weekend, I would rate them:

Michigan
UGA
LSU
Texas
OSU
USC
 

shiner

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Originally posted by: Alkaline5
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
i've said it several places, but i would LOVE to see UGA beat LSU (very possible) and Oregon state to beat USC (not as likely) because of what it would do to the BCS.

Could you imagine the outcome?? i guess Michican would probably get the #2 spot, but WOW, the confusion would be amazing.

with 2 losses, (one to cal and one to Oregon state) USC should be pretty much out of the picture.

LSU , UGA , Michigan , OSU and Texas where would you rank them??

IMO in that scenario Michigan would go to the Sugar Bowl. UGA, Texas, and OSU are neck-and-neck right now which means that UGA would probably move into third behind Michigan with LSU falling a to 6.

USC isn't going to lose to the Beavers, though. They know what's on the line this Saturday.
True that....USC has to win so they can get their ass kicking from OU in the Sugar Bowl.

 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: Alkaline5
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
i've said it several places, but i would LOVE to see UGA beat LSU (very possible) and Oregon state to beat USC (not as likely) because of what it would do to the BCS.

Could you imagine the outcome?? i guess Michican would probably get the #2 spot, but WOW, the confusion would be amazing.

with 2 losses, (one to cal and one to Oregon state) USC should be pretty much out of the picture.

LSU , UGA , Michigan , OSU and Texas where would you rank them??

IMO in that scenario Michigan would go to the Sugar Bowl. UGA, Texas, and OSU are neck-and-neck right now which means that UGA would probably move into third behind Michigan with LSU falling a to 6.

USC isn't going to lose to the Beavers, though. They know what's on the line this Saturday.
True that....USC has to win so they can get their ass kicking from OU in the Sugar Bowl.

spoilsports, everyone knows what will happen if USC wins, it's much more fun to speculate what would happen should USC lose and UGA win.

 

shiner

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: Alkaline5
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
i've said it several places, but i would LOVE to see UGA beat LSU (very possible) and Oregon state to beat USC (not as likely) because of what it would do to the BCS.

Could you imagine the outcome?? i guess Michican would probably get the #2 spot, but WOW, the confusion would be amazing.

with 2 losses, (one to cal and one to Oregon state) USC should be pretty much out of the picture.

LSU , UGA , Michigan , OSU and Texas where would you rank them??

IMO in that scenario Michigan would go to the Sugar Bowl. UGA, Texas, and OSU are neck-and-neck right now which means that UGA would probably move into third behind Michigan with LSU falling a to 6.

USC isn't going to lose to the Beavers, though. They know what's on the line this Saturday.
True that....USC has to win so they can get their ass kicking from OU in the Sugar Bowl.

spoilsports, everyone knows what will happen if USC wins, it's much more fun to speculate what would happen should USC lose and UGA win.

Doesn't matter..

OU > the other 116 Division 1 teams