Dullard's College Football Week 11

[dullard]

Boise St, Wisconsin (finally), and Michigan moved up at least 3 places in the top 25 this week.

Miami, Florida St, and UCLA moved down at least 3 places in the top 25 this week. That's a two week slide for both Florida schools even though Florida St won. UCLA gives up its big gains from last week.

This week, Arizona St and Texas A&M are probably overrated. But their losses were to great teams and those losses were minor. Not much that I'd complain about.

Place : Win Rating / Score Rating ( W , L ) Team name
01 : 76.9 / 79.7 ( 9 , 0 ) Southern Cal
02 : 74.1 / 74.4 ( 9 , 0 ) Oklahoma
03 : 71.8 / 76.8 ( 7 , 1 ) California
04 : 68.1 / 71.6 ( 9 , 0 ) Utah
05 : 67.2 / 66.1 ( 7 , 2 ) Arizona St
06 : 66.8 / 68.3 ( 8 , 1 ) Texas
07 : 64.5 / 67.4 ( 9 , 0 ) Auburn
08 : 63.7 / 61.7 ( 8 , 0 ) Boise St
09 : 61.6 / 60.5 ( 9 , 0 ) Wisconsin
10 : 61.0 / 64.4 ( 8 , 1 ) Georgia
11 : 59.6 / 58.6 ( 7 , 2 ) Tennessee
12 : 59.5 / 58.0 ( 8 , 1 ) Michigan
13 : 59.5 / 60.9 ( 6 , 3 ) Texas A&M
14 : 59.2 / 59.9 ( 6 , 2 ) Miami FL
15 : 59.1 / 60.5 ( 7 , 2 ) Florida St
16 : 58.8 / 60.1 ( 7 , 1 ) Virginia
17 : 58.1 / 62.7 ( 6 , 1 ) Louisville
18 : 55.9 / 57.9 ( 6 , 3 ) Oklahoma St
19 : 55.7 / 54.4 ( 7 , 2 ) Iowa
20 : 53.7 / 55.2 ( 6 , 2 ) LSU
21 : 53.7 / 54.3 ( 6 , 3 ) Notre Dame
22 : 53.6 / 54.1 ( 8 , 1 ) West Virginia
23 : 52.7 / 53.3 ( 6 , 3 ) Texas Tech
24 : 51.6 / 52.4 ( 7 , 2 ) Virginia Tech
25 : 50.6 / 49.7 ( 6 , 2 ) UTEP
26 : 49.3 / 52.5 ( 6 , 3 ) South Carolina
27 : 49.1 / 49.2 ( 6 , 3 ) Ohio State
28 : 48.8 / 49.2 ( 5 , 4 ) Brigham Young
29 : 48.3 / 50.2 ( 4 , 5 ) Oregon St
30 : 48.2 / 50.9 ( 5 , 4 ) Oregon
31 : 47.8 / 46.8 ( 5 , 4 ) Colorado
32 : 47.8 / 52.5 ( 5 , 4 ) UCLA
33 : 47.4 / 45.9 ( 5 , 4 ) Clemson
34 : 47.2 / 52.9 ( 5 , 4 ) Purdue
35 : 46.0 / 46.5 ( 6 , 2 ) Boston College
36 : 45.4 / 43.6 ( 6 , 3 ) Wyoming
37 : 45.3 / 46.4 ( 5 , 4 ) New Mexico
38 : 45.2 / 50.0 ( 6 , 3 ) Alabama
39 : 45.2 / 44.3 ( 5 , 4 ) Northwestern
40 : 45.1 / 50.6 ( 4 , 5 ) Stanford
41 : 44.8 / 42.0 ( 4 , 5 ) North Carolina
42 : 44.7 / 40.8 ( 5 , 2 ) Southern Miss
43 : 44.3 / 41.8 ( 5 , 3 ) Georgia Tech
44 : 44.1 / 47.3 ( 5 , 3 ) Fresno St
45 : 43.9 / 41.2 ( 5 , 4 ) Iowa St
46 : 42.9 / 40.5 ( 5 , 3 ) Alabama-Birmingham
47 : 42.9 / 50.3 ( 3 , 5 ) Arkansas
48 : 42.2 / 45.0 ( 6 , 4 ) Minnesota
49 : 42.2 / 37.2 ( 7 , 2 ) Navy
50 : 42.0 / 43.7 ( 4 , 5 ) Washington St
51 : 41.8 / 48.8 ( 5 , 4 ) Florida
52 : 41.5 / 40.0 ( 5 , 4 ) Syracuse
53 : 40.4 / 43.3 ( 4 , 5 ) Kansas St
54 : 40.2 / 40.2 ( 4 , 5 ) Air Force
55 : 40.0 / 40.2 ( 5 , 4 ) Cincinnati
56 : 39.6 / 39.9 ( 5 , 4 ) Nebraska
57 : 39.2 / 41.2 ( 4 , 5 ) North Carolina St
58 : 39.0 / 40.4 ( 7 , 2 ) Northern Illinois
59 : 38.8 / 41.9 ( 4 , 5 ) Maryland
60 : 38.8 / 39.0 ( 5 , 3 ) Memphis
61 : 38.7 / 39.5 ( 5 , 3 ) Connecticut
62 : 38.3 / 38.4 ( 5 , 3 ) Pittsburgh
63 : 37.9 / 43.5 ( 7 , 2 ) Bowling Green
64 : 37.7 / 40.4 ( 5 , 4 ) Troy St
65 : 37.3 / 40.5 ( 4 , 5 ) Michigan St
66 : 37.1 / 41.6 ( 4 , 5 ) Missouri
67 : 36.5 / 37.7 ( 3 , 6 ) Colorado St
68 : 36.5 / 33.0 ( 4 , 5 ) Louisiana Tech
69 : 36.1 / 38.1 ( 4 , 4 ) Wake Forest
70 : 35.9 / 33.5 ( 4 , 4 ) TCU
71 : 35.8 / 28.7 ( 5 , 4 ) North Texas
72 : 35.2 / 39.4 ( 3 , 6 ) Kansas
73 : 35.1 / 36.1 ( 3 , 5 ) Mississippi
74 : 33.5 / 31.4 ( 4 , 4 ) Hawai`i
75 : 33.3 / 31.0 ( 3 , 4 ) South Florida
76 : 32.7 / 29.2 ( 4 , 5 ) New Mexico St
77 : 32.2 / 33.9 ( 6 , 3 ) Miami OH
78 : 31.5 / 27.6 ( 3 , 6 ) Baylor
79 : 30.9 / 34.8 ( 2 , 7 ) Arizona
80 : 30.7 / 34.5 ( 5 , 4 ) Marshall
81 : 29.7 / 29.8 ( 4 , 5 ) Rutgers
82 : 29.7 / 31.1 ( 2 , 7 ) UNLV
83 : 29.5 / 30.0 ( 6 , 3 ) Toledo
84 : 29.0 / 31.8 ( 3 , 6 ) Indiana
85 : 28.4 / 27.5 ( 3 , 6 ) Houston
86 : 27.7 / 34.7 ( 2 , 7 ) Penn St
87 : 27.2 / 21.5 ( 4 , 5 ) UL-Monroe
88 : 27.1 / 28.8 ( 3 , 6 ) Mississippi St
89 : 26.5 / 29.3 ( 2 , 7 ) San Diego St
90 : 26.2 / 28.1 ( 3 , 7 ) Illinois
91 : 25.6 / 24.7 ( 5 , 4 ) Nevada
92 : 25.2 / 22.9 ( 4 , 5 ) Middle Tenn St
93 : 25.0 / 23.4 ( 3 , 5 ) Tulane
94 : 24.8 / 21.8 ( 5 , 4 ) Akron
95 : 23.4 / 23.4 ( 2 , 6 ) Army
96 : 23.4 / 20.7 ( 4 , 5 ) UL-Lafayette
97 : 23.3 / 22.6 ( 3 , 6 ) Rice
98 : 23.0 / 26.8 ( 2 , 7 ) Vanderbilt
99 : 22.9 / 20.2 ( 2 , 6 ) East Carolina
100 : 22.7 / 25.1 ( 1 , 8 ) Washington
101 : 19.9 / 14.8 ( 2 , 7 ) SMU
102 : 19.9 / 16.2 ( 2 , 7 ) Utah St
103 : 19.6 / 21.1 ( 2 , 7 ) Tulsa
104 : 19.5 / 22.4 ( 1 , 8 ) Kentucky
105 : 19.0 / 20.6 ( 1 , 8 ) Duke
106 : 18.3 / 13.7 ( 3 , 7 ) Idaho
107 : 16.6 / 14.7 ( 2 , 7 ) Arkansas St
108 : 14.6 / 19.0 ( 3 , 6 ) Kent St
109 : 13.6 / 11.4 ( 2 , 6 ) San Jose St
110 : 13.5 / 12.2 ( 4 , 5 ) Eastern Michigan
111 : 13.3 / 15.5 ( 4 , 6 ) Ohio U.
112 : 13.3 / 14.6 ( 1 , 8 ) Temple
113 : 11.8 / 11.9 ( 3 , 6 ) Central Michigan
114 : 7.7 / 9.1 ( 1 , 8 ) Ball St
115 : 2.8 / 5.3 ( 0 , 9 ) Central Florida
116 : 1.0 / 3.1 ( 1 , 8 ) Western Michigan
117 : 0.0 / 0.0 ( 1 , 8 ) Buffalo

 

[geno]

oops, I came in here thinking you were talking about real football

 

[dullard]

Division I-AA top 25. Seems like an awful lot of teams with many losses make it to the top 25. I don't pay any attention to these games so I have no explanation why.

Place : Altered Rank ( W , L ) Team name
01 : 84.3 ( 8 , 1 ) Georgia Southern
02 : 79.0 ( 8 , 1 ) Southern Illinois
03 : 75.4 ( 7 , 1 ) Sam Houston St
04 : 74.6 ( 7 , 0 ) Harvard
05 : 73.4 ( 7 , 1 ) Cal Poly SLO
06 : 73.3 ( 6 , 1 ) Florida Atlantic
07 : 73.3 ( 6 , 2 ) Furman
08 : 73.2 ( 6 , 3 ) Villanova
09 : 73.2 ( 7 , 1 ) James Madison
10 : 72.9 ( 6 , 3 ) Eastern Washington
11 : 71.9 ( 6 , 1 ) Pennsylvania
12 : 71.7 ( 6 , 2 ) New Hampshire
13 : 70.8 ( 6 , 2 ) Delaware
14 : 70.3 ( 6 , 2 ) Montana
15 : 70.2 ( 6 , 2 ) William & Mary
16 : 69.3 ( 7 , 1 ) Lehigh
17 : 68.3 ( 4 , 4 ) Hofstra
18 : 67.9 ( 4 , 4 ) Maine
19 : 65.5 ( 6 , 2 ) Montana St
20 : 65.4 ( 6 , 2 ) Western Kentucky
21 : 64.0 ( 4 , 4 ) Northern Iowa
22 : 63.9 ( 6 , 1 ) Jacksonville St
23 : 63.4 ( 4 , 4 ) Portland St
24 : 62.6 ( 7 , 1 ) Hampton
25 : 62.2 ( 3 , 5 ) Northeastern

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: geno
oops, I came in here thinking you were talking about real football

Not sure if you are
A) complaining about computerized rankings

or

B) complaining about the name of a game which was originally a form of soccer/rugby, mostly played by feet, and which now uses a ball which is approximately a foot long.

 

[datalink7]

Yay Oregon State keeps losing and keeps moving up in the rankings (I think we (Oregon State) have one of the toughest schdeuels in the nation).

 

[new2AMD]

Auburn is getting a bum deal here

 

[Feldenak]

I find it laughable that you have a 2 loss school ahead of Auburn & Wisconsin (both 9-0)

 

[SP33Demon]

Well at least you finally have West Virginia in the top 25. Eventually you will be forced to put them in your top 10 after they win the Big East and get a BCS Bowl bid :evil:

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: datalink7
Yay Oregon State keeps losing and keeps moving up in the rankings (I think we (Oregon State) have one of the toughest schdeuels in the nation).

Originally posted by: new2AMD
Auburn is getting a bum deal here

Same comment to both. Strength of schedule. My computer puts Oregon St. at the 2nd hardest schedule (right behind Arizona St). Auburn is at #81, right near the bottom quarter. And of its two semi decent opponents, Auburn beat one of them by just 1 point.

Originally posted by: Feldenak
I find it laughable that you have a 2 loss school ahead of Auburn & Wisconsin (both 9-0)

As you can see from my first post, I agree.

 

[nmcglennon]

How can Texas A&M be overrated when they almost toppled OU?

Our team (Texas) didn't even do that in Dallas... but then again I am proud of our comeback this weekend. :beer:

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: nmcglennon
How can Texas A&M be overrated when they almost toppled OU?

One word: Baylor. I'd personally put Texas A&M around #17. Behind a few more of the 1 loss teams. Yes you can be ranked semi high with 3 losses, but if one of them includes Baylor then game over.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

Its a miracle A&M is as high as they are here (highest 3 loss team), especially when one of those losses is to Baylor, the worst team in the Big 12

 

[Coquito]

ND is ranked?!?! omg

 

[SP33Demon]

So what are your predictions for the BCS bowls? BTW, since WVU is either going to Tempe or New Orleans I started researching packages for the two... For N.O. you can make reservations in advance, but they take all of your money if you cancel AFTER Dec 12th. Do they even announce who is going to the Bowls by then?

 

[sciencewhiz]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: geno
oops, I came in here thinking you were talking about real football

Not sure if you are
A) complaining about computerized rankings

or

B) complaining about the name of a game which was originally a form of soccer/rugby, mostly played by feet, and which now uses a ball which is approximately a foot long.

I think he wanted the NFL. (Normally you specify college football in the title, this week you didn't).

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
I think he wanted the NFL. (Normally you specify college football in the title, this week you didn't).

Oh good catch. My mistake. Edited above.

NFL has no need for computer rankings. The ratio of (number of games played per team ) / (number of teams) is close enough to 1 that you can easilly and realistically make rankings without computer programs and without personal bias voting. As far as I know, college football is one of if not the only sport where that ratio is so small that it is impossible to come up with a decent ranking system without computers and without personal bias. Thus I apply my program to college football only.

 

[sciencewhiz]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
So what are your predictions for the BCS bowls? BTW, since WVU is either going to Tempe or New Orleans I started researching packages for the two... For N.O. you can make reservations in advance, but they take all of your money if you cancel AFTER Dec 12th. Do they even announce who is going to the Bowls by then?

BCS bowl selection is December 5th this year.

Where WVU goes will depend heavily on whether Utah is 6th (or better) in the BCS and who the ACC champion is.

 

[Dudd]

Originally posted by: Coquito
ND is ranked?!?! omg

Well, Dullards rankings seem to heavily take into account SOS, and we have to have one of the harder schedules in the nation. I believe only one team we've played so far has a losing record, Washington. We've beaten two teams in Dullards top 15, Michigan and Tennessee. So yeah, we've looked absolutely terrible at times (BYU, Purdue, and BC come to mind), but we've played really well at times as well.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: sciencewhiz

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
So what are your predictions for the BCS bowls? BTW, since WVU is either going to Tempe or New Orleans I started researching packages for the two... For N.O. you can make reservations in advance, but they take all of your money if you cancel AFTER Dec 12th. Do they even announce who is going to the Bowls by then?

BCS bowl selection is December 5th this year.

Where WVU goes will depend heavily on whether Utah is 6th (or better) in the BCS and who the ACC champion is.

Cool, thanks for the info. If VT wins the ACC, then I doubt they would have a VT/WVU rematch. Please VT doesn't travel all that well (so Tempe is probably out)...

 

[UTmtnbiker]

Looks like Utah fell to 7th in the BCS. I think at this point, Utah has to hope one of the teams ahead of it (in either the BCS or the polls) to loose. I thought this weekend had some serious potential targets. A&M (who Utah spanked royally) and OSU both looked like they were about to pull off upsets.

However, I thinkt he Fiesta can still be a possibility even if Utah is not top 6. It's a relatively close jaunt from Salt Lake to Tempe, and like Demon said above, a VT/WVU isn't nearly as attractive as an east coast vs. west coast team.

Sucks playing in a mid-major. We'z get no props!

 

[sciencewhiz]

Originally posted by: UTmtnbiker
However, I thinkt he Fiesta can still be a possibility even if Utah is not top 6. It's a relatively close jaunt from Salt Lake to Tempe, and like Demon said above, a VT/WVU isn't nearly as attractive as an east coast vs. west coast team.

They also have the stigma of being a team from Utah. BYU doesn't travel poorly, but their fans don't spend money either. So, BYU's past experience hurts Utah's chances.

Fiesta would much rather have Texas then Utah, and then there's no room for Utah in the BCS.

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: geno
oops, I came in here thinking you were talking about real football

Not sure if you are
A) complaining about computerized rankings

or

B) complaining about the name of a game which was originally a form of soccer/rugby, mostly played by feet, and which now uses a ball which is approximately a foot long.

sorry, should've been more specific, I thought this was an NFL thread

 

[mpitts]

Your rankings seem to weigh very heavily on strength of schedule.

Arizona State, as a whole, has played a very tough schedule. But take out the two horrible loses to great teams (USC and Cal) where they were outscored 72-7, and their best win is against Iowa.

It is definitely fair to account for strength of schedule. But it sounds like your system needs to take into account how the team does against the teams that make their schedule so "difficult".

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: UTmtnbiker
Looks like Utah fell to 7th in the BCS. I think at this point, Utah has to hope one of the teams ahead of it (in either the BCS or the polls) to loose. I thought this weekend had some serious potential targets. A&M (who Utah spanked royally) and OSU both looked like they were about to pull off upsets.

However, I thinkt he Fiesta can still be a possibility even if Utah is not top 6. It's a relatively close jaunt from Salt Lake to Tempe, and like Demon said above, a VT/WVU isn't nearly as attractive as an east coast vs. west coast team.

Sucks playing in a mid-major. We'z get no props!

Yeah I think Utah/WVU in the Fiesta is a good possibility since Tempe is close to Utah (relatively) and WVU travels very well. If VT can hold on for ACC title, it only makes sense (monetarily) to have them in the Sugar Bowl since they don't travel well. Who they would play, would probably have to be someone who travels well.

 

[sciencewhiz]

Originally posted by: mpitts
It is definitely fair to account for strength of schedule. But it sounds like your system needs to take into account how the team does against the teams that make their schedule so "difficult".

If you look at the score rating (as opposed to the win rating), Arizona St moves down 2 spots.