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Dude... You Missed The Masters! Sucks to be you!

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Brigandier said:
The PGA would be happier, golf was a lot more popular when you could turn on the tube and see that guy kicking ass again.
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Eh.... Tiger might be holding golf back now. He brought the fans, but now he holds the PGA hostage. We need new Tigers and there is tons of young blood out there to take his place.
 
Cuda1447 said:
Eh.... Tiger might be holding golf back now. He brought the fans, but now he holds the PGA hostage. We need new Tigers and there is tons of young blood out there to take his place.
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There is young, young blood, but not golf young blood. Tiger is still in the throes of his PGA career, he has many years of being a PGA all star. There's a reason I've only played Jack Nicklaus Golf and Tiger Woods Golf on vidjagames, it's because legends have staying power, especially in golf. it's nice to see a few upstarts, but not if they just choke and fall by the wayside. It's more fun seeing Cabrera take Tiger for a run than someone younger, Tiger is still golf young and needs no replacement right now, give him a few more years.
 
Brigandier said:
There is young, young blood, but not golf young blood. Tiger is still in the throes of his PGA career, he has many years of being a PGA all star. There's a reason I've only played Jack Nicklaus Golf and Tiger Woods Golf on vidjagames, it's because legends have staying power, especially in golf. it's nice to see a few upstarts, but not if they just choke and fall by the wayside. It's more fun seeing Cabrera take Tiger for a run than someone younger, Tiger is still golf young and needs no replacement right now, give him a few more years.
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Tiger may be stinking it up right now but the purses for the tournaments have gone up so much due to his popularity over the last 15 years. Nike Golf alone has gone from basically 0 to almost 1B in sales. He may be a terrible person and all that (not that other superstars like Jordan were much better) but the entire PGA tour has benefited from his presence.

There are tons of young guys coming up and I'm sure they'll have their time in the sun as the years go by but right now none of them are consistent at all. You have tons of 1 and done guys that may win 1 major or something and then do nothing for a while. Guys from Kaymer, Oosthuizen, McDowell, Glover, Cink, Y.E. Yang, Rory, and even Immelman and Johnson. The only guy who's come remotely close old guy Phil.

Considering they've been praising Jack for winning at age 46 all week long and how it was super duper awesome for Couples this year and Watson last year shooting decently at their ages, age isn't really a factor in golf.

The guy who won today shot really well at the end but he did have the lucky stuff like the hole out from 140 yards(?) at 3 and the putt way off the green from downtown at 1.
 
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last round was very exciting, tiger had a real chance got really unlucky with a few birdie putts and that eagle put. the auzzies put on an amazing show, really wanted one of them to win. some very clutch shots to make -1 and or to save par by both Day and Scott. Donald also simply pulled some things out of thin air.

Charl made it look easy. could have 2 putted to victory and just said F that
 
a123456 said:
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There are tons of young guys coming up and I'm sure they'll have their time in the sun as the years go by but right now none of them are consistent at all. You have tons of 1 and done guys that may win 1 major or something and then do nothing for a while. Guys from Kaymer, Oosthuizen, McDowell, Glover, Cink, Y.E. Yang, Rory, and even Immelman and Johnson. The only guy who's come remotely close old guy Phil.

Considering they've been praising Jack for winning at age 46 all week long and how it was super duper awesome for Couples this year and Watson last year shooting decently at their ages, age isn't really a factor in golf.
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The young guys?

Yeah, not one of them is dominating, but as a whole they are.

It's like a wave. One may not win but the next one will, even if a young'in comes out of nowhere. When the "R"s fail (Rickie Fowler, Ryo Ishikawa, Rory McIlroy) another steps up, like Louis O., or Martin K or C. Schwartzel.

The older Guys like Freddie and Watson have trouble making it through 4 days, and they are too tied by the 4th which is grueling. Usually they only play 3 days on the 'Champions Tour', so the 4th day on the regular tour kills 'em. So, yes, age is a factor, tho not as much as it's been. You can still play well in later years, but still the strain on the back, knees and stamina etc adds up over time.

Otherwise, just wanted to say McIlroy's complete collaspe surprised me. I thought he might do better. Some people manage it (Louis O. and C. Schwartzel), and others don't (Dustin J.).

Fern
 
I'd hardly call the young guys "dominating" although they have played well. Over the last 3-4 years, the guys in their 20s have won fewer majors than the older guys in their 30s.

I feel bad for Rory's 80 but hubris kind of caught up with him when he was proclaiming *yesterday* that him winning would be good for the game and how the flag positions were easy. Then, Rory cursing and slamming his clubs down after the bad shots on the back 9 just sort of showed his immaturity. He'll grow up and mature but still has some more growing to do. I guess it's easy to be "classy" when you're playing well.

Also, what happened to Phil? He was the favorite by far after the Shell and then basically stunk it up for 4 rounds and was a non-factor.
 
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I'd hardly call the young guys "dominating" although they have played well. Over the last 3-4 years, the guys in their 20s have won fewer majors than the older guys in their 30s.
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You wanna go back 3 or 4 years?

Geez, look at the 3 "R"s. Ryo Ishikawa is 19 yrs (IIRC), Rory McIroy is 21, Rickie F. is 22. How the h3ll could they be winning 3 or 4 yrs ago? You're complaining they didn't win when they teenagers?

Look at the age of those who currently hold the Major titles. I think 3 of 4 are held by those in their 20"s. Kaymer is world #1 and he's in his 20's.

Tiger and Phil etc will still have good tournaments and likely win a major here-or-there, but there's no evidence to suggest the young guys are gonna be denied.

Fern
 
Golf like baseball is something you play. Those that watch just think they could do it.

Same with most sports.
 
About the young guys. This is where the final skill takes time to master. Course management and finally mental. The mental part is the last hurdle and why tiger was so great at his age. That aspect of the game only cones with experience.

Some very clutch shots made over and over by the young'uns. Let's see if they can keep it up.

You saw what happened to macelroy.
 
Fern said:
You wanna go back 3 or 4 years?

Geez, look at the 3 "R"s. Ryo Ishikawa is 19 yrs (IIRC), Rory McIroy is 21, Rickie F. is 22. How the h3ll could they be winning 3 or 4 yrs ago? You're complaining they didn't win when they teenagers?

Look at the age of those who currently hold the Major titles. I think 3 of 4 are held by those in their 20"s. Kaymer is world #1 and he's in his 20's.

Tiger and Phil etc will still have good tournaments and likely win a major here-or-there, but there's no evidence to suggest the young guys are gonna be denied.

Fern
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Well, if you want to use that metric, if you go back exactly 1 year, the majors were held by all old guys. So it could be just as likely old guys win the next 4. And Kaymer's barely held #1. It has and will be musical chairs including guys like Westwood, Donald, etc.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter that much. I'm 100% sure that the younger generation will win their fair share of majors because that's what always happens over time. The generation of Nicklaus and Faldo gave way to the generation of Tiger and Phil. And that generation will give way to whatever random young upstarts can put it together.

I do have to say that this year's Masters was a blast to watch with all the lead changes and great play for the most part down the back 9. It's definitely more entertaining than some guy winning by 10 strokes on Sunday.

Right now, Tiger/Phil are just another average golfer who have their ups and downs, just like all the other guys on the tour. They're no longer the best, like they used to be.
 
Wait...you actually watched golf?

How fucking bored do you have to be to watch someone else play golf?

That's even more boring than watching grass grow...and only slightly less boring than watching paint dry...

🙄
 
a123456 said:
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I do have to say that this year's Masters was a blast to watch with all the lead changes and great play for the most part down the back 9. It's definitely more entertaining than some guy winning by 10 strokes on Sunday.
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Amen brother!

It was one of the best finishes in a major. Completely took away the pain/empathy of watching McIroy doing the Norman-esqe implosion.

I'm curious to see how he responds. While I like him, frankly, I've thought him a little cocky. Haha, let's see how this experience affects him.

Fern
 
BoomerD said:
Wait...you actually watched golf?

How fucking bored do you have to be to watch someone else play golf?

That's even more boring than watching grass grow...and only slightly less boring than watching paint dry...

🙄
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I think I'd watch competitive Putt-Putt if it was on TV, can you imagine the obstacles and crazy trick shots the "pros" would come up with? This needs to happen! If Texas Hold'em can make it big so can this.
 
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