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US forces find 2.5 tonnes of marijuana in Afghan school

Kabul: Afghan and coalition troops found and destroyed 2.5 tonnes of marijuana in an abandoned school in southern Afghanistan, while coalition troops killed four militants elsewhere in the south, officials said on Sunday.

The marijuana, which was stored in 2-feet (0.6-metre) tall stacks, filled several rooms of a school in the Arghistan district of the southern province of Kandahar, a statement from US forces in Afghanistan said.

"No students or faculty were at the schoolhouse at the time of the discovery. The school's furniture had been taken out of the classrooms and left in the courtyard. The amount of rust on the furniture indicated the school may not have been used for its intended purpose for a prolonged period of time," the statement said.

Col. Jerry O'Hara, a US military spokesman, said using a school as a drug warehouse "is an attack on the future of all Afghanistan."

In Zabul province, meanwhile, coalition forces killed four armed militants and detained five suspects during an operation Saturday, the coalition said.

The operation targeted a Taliban militant "known to traffic weapons and coordinate roadside bomb attacks," the military said.
The action is going to make pothead cries.

On a none related note...

Researchers find oldest-ever stash of marijuana

OTTAWA -- Researchers say they have located the world's oldest stash of marijuana, in a tomb in a remote part of China.

The cache of cannabis is about 2,700 years old and was clearly "cultivated for psychoactive purposes," rather than as fibre for clothing or as food, says a research paper in the Journal of Experimental Botany.

The 789 grams of dried cannabis was buried alongside a light-haired, blue-eyed Caucasian man, likely a shaman of the Gushi culture, near Turpan in northwestern China.

The extremely dry conditions and alkaline soil acted as preservatives, allowing a team of scientists to carefully analyze the stash, which still looked green though it had lost its distinctive odour.

"To our knowledge, these investigations provide the oldest documentation of cannabis as a pharmacologically active agent," says the newly published paper, whose lead author was American neurologist Dr. Ethan B. Russo.

Remnants of cannabis have been found in ancient Egypt and other sites, and the substance has been referred to by authors such as the Greek historian Herodotus. But the tomb stash is the oldest so far that could be thoroughly tested for its properties.

The 18 researchers, most of them based in China, subjected the cannabis to a battery of tests, including carbon dating and genetic analysis. Scientists also tried to germinate 100 of the seeds found in the cache, without success.

The marijuana was found to have a relatively high content of THC, the main active ingredient in cannabis, but the sample was too old to determine a precise percentage.

Researchers also could not determine whether the cannabis was smoked or ingested, as there were no pipes or other clues in the tomb of the shaman, who was about 45 years old.

The large cache was contained in a leather basket and in a wooden bowl, and was likely meant to be used by the shaman in the afterlife.

"This materially is unequivocally cannabis, and no material has previously had this degree of analysis possible," Russo said in an interview from Missoula, Mont.

"It was common practice in burials to provide materials needed for the afterlife. No hemp or seeds were provided for fabric or food. Rather, cannabis as medicine or for visionary purposes was supplied."

The tomb also contained bridles, archery equipment and a harp, confirming the man's high social standing.

Russo is a full-time consultant with GW Pharmaceuticals, which makes Sativex, a cannabis-based medicine approved in Canada for pain linked to multiple sclerosis and cancer.

The company operates a cannabis-testing laboratory at a secret location in southern England to monitor crop quality for producing Sativex, and allowed Russo use of the facility for tests on 11 grams of the tomb cannabis.

Researchers needed about 10 months to cut red tape barring the transfer of the cannabis to England from China, Russo said.

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Stupid weed growers . . . don't they know that poppies are where it's at in Afghanistan? ;)
 

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The marijuana was found to have a relatively high content of THC, the main active ingredient in cannabis, but the sample was too old to determine a precise percentage.

Researchers really should apply the only truly accurate test of cannabis potency- fire it up!

Strictly for scientific purposes, of course...

The world would be better off if coalition forces would ignore cannabis cultivation in Afghanistan, anyway- the alternative harvest is a lot more destructive in the societies who import these afghan agricultural products...
 
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One would think all that pot would chill them out and they would just laze around all day, laughing giddily and listening to the same old music over and over again.

Love and peace, baby!
 

Squisher

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I always wanted to cop some weed from a Gushi shaman. I heard their shit is premo.
 

Lemon law

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In the form it was found, the marijuana was not Nato troop dangerous, sadly many parts of the Afghanistan have some roads lined on both sides with fields of marijuana that make ideal hiding places for Taliban fighters that use that cover to mass up and set ambushes for any targets of opportunity. Other tall vegetation like corn does equally well, and goes part of the way towards explaining why the Taliban is far more active in the summer, and there is usually a winter lull in the fighting in Afghanistan.

I seem to remember some of out newly deployed US marines being told ordered not to touch the marijuana fields about 18 months ago. And if we burn down corn fields, the Afghan farmers will simply starve or be
forced to go for cash crops like opium.
 

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Originally posted by: Squisher
I always wanted to cop some weed from a Gushi shaman. I heard their shit is premo.

"Primo."

You're obviously not a child of the '60's. ;)
 

Lemon law

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: Squisher
I always wanted to cop some weed from a Gushi shaman. I heard their shit is premo.

"Primo."

You're obviously not a child of the '60's. ;)
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The spelling police strike again, regardless if someone is motivated by slang words with no official English spelling that I know of, they are still motivated.

http://onlineslangdictionary.com/definition+of/primo

Or you could just do what I first did, just google the word primo and find it applied to sandwiches, bicycles, and nearly anything else.
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: Squisher
I always wanted to cop some weed from a Gushi shaman. I heard their shit is premo.

"Primo."

You're obviously not a child of the '60's. ;)
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The spelling police strike again, regardless if someone is motivated by slang words with no official English spelling that I know of, they are still motivated.

http://onlineslangdictionary.com/definition+of/primo

Or you could just do what I first did, just google the word primo and find it applied to sandwiches, bicycles, and nearly anything else.

Apperantly you were never part of the drug culture. "Premo" was never such thing. "Primo" was a WELL known mixture of hydrated pot and a little coke thrown in. Read up. It would be like correcting the use of pot, instead of pat. One is correct, one isnt.
 

Jeff7

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What the hell? Why are we forcing our asinine "War on Drugs" on other countries? Are they going to load ICBMs with marijuana and use it to stone the populace of several major cities?


 

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: Squisher
I always wanted to cop some weed from a Gushi shaman. I heard their shit is premo.

"Primo."

You're obviously not a child of the '60's. ;)
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... slang words with no official English spelling that I know of ...

Because you are obviously not a child of the sixties.

Or you could just do what I first did, just google the word primo ...

And prove that you are obviously not a child of the sixties, which was exactly my point.



 

Lemon law

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The Perknose point of "And prove that you are obviously not a child of the sixties, which was exactly my point.", happens to be absolutely failed logic if you examine my birth certificate. I was not the one who used the slang word premo, but I am and remain opposed to the spelling police when the original meaning of the Squisher post was clear, even if it was not, IMHO, very relevant. And anyone setting themselves up as the spelling police when we are dealing with a slang English word with no official English spelling takes the spelling police to news lows in credibility.
 

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Ommmm 5,525 lbs of dope? Well my guess it wasn't primo dried out bud. I highly doubt America smokes that much weed in a year.

Sounds to me they were using it to make baskets or hemp rope, cloths out of it .... I doubt it was high grade stony weed.

 

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
The Perknose point of "And prove that you are obviously not a child of the sixties, which was exactly my point.", happens to be absolutely failed logic if you examine my birth certificate. I was not the one who used the slang word premo, but I am and remain opposed to the spelling police when the original meaning of the Squisher post was clear, even if it was not, IMHO, very relevant. And anyone setting themselves up as the spelling police when we are dealing with a slang English word with no official English spelling takes the spelling police to news lows in credibility.
You obviously failed at taking the 60s message in. Take it easy. You're wound up too tight. IOW smoke a bowl yourself.
 

destrekor

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If this thread was in OT, there would have been a lot more fun and love.
But nooo... Lemon Law and Perknose gotta throw out the fightin' words over a single word.

on-topic though:
Originally posted by: Jeff7
What the hell? Why are we forcing our asinine "War on Drugs" on other countries? Are they going to load ICBMs with marijuana and use it to stone the populace of several major cities?

While I think the whole war on drugs thing is indeed asinine, there is some logic to this whole mess:
first, they basically just stumbled onto a major stash. That size of a stash isn't something to turn your head from and pretend you never saw it: the sale of that amount is what provides funding for the militia groups the coalition is fighting.
however, it is kind of pointless because the afghan herb grows everywhere out there. It's a potent strain that grows wild out there. Take a major stash and all you're doing is slowing down the process - they'll just go harvest some more from their planted regions and from the wild fields of it.
 

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Originally posted by: ericlp
Ommmm 5,525 lbs of dope? Well my guess it wasn't primo dried out bud. I highly doubt America smokes that much weed in a year.

Sounds to me they were using it to make baskets or hemp rope, cloths out of it .... I doubt it was high grade stony weed.
Hash.

 

Squisher

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: Squisher
I always wanted to cop some weed from a Gushi shaman. I heard their shit is premo.

"Primo."

You're obviously not a child of the '60's. ;)

I'm such a child of the 60's that all my brain cells that control spelling are coated in a brown sticky substance.

Actually, I'm more of a child of the 70's, graduated in '75.
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: ericlp
Ommmm 5,525 lbs of dope? Well my guess it wasn't primo dried out bud. I highly doubt America smokes that much weed in a year.

Sounds to me they were using it to make baskets or hemp rope, cloths out of it .... I doubt it was high grade stony weed.

5,525 lbs is NOTHING

"Calculating the total amount of marijuana available in a given year based on the amount seized during that year necessarily provides only a rough estimate. If only 10 percent of illicit drugs are seized in any given year, then, based on the figure of 2,412,365 pounds of marijuana seized in 2002, one could estimate that in 2002 the total amount of marijuana that traffickers succeeded in smuggling into the country was roughly 24 million pounds, or about 10,889 metric tons. If one doubles that amount to take into account the domestic production of marijuana that was not seized, then the total amount would be closer to 22,000 metric tons"

2 and half MILLION pounds...and thats only what was siezed.
 

Lemon law

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While current Afghan Opium production is probably enough to supply 100% of the illicit world wide demand. In terms of Afghan marijuana, I doubt its worth illegally importing into the domestic US market when enough marijuana is either domestically cultivated or is grown in far closer to the US foreign countries.

But in terms of this given "5,525 pounds of marijuana cited by the OP being warehoused in a Afghan schoolhouse", there is some missing information. If its intended end use was to makes clothes and rope, the main stems would be best saved and the leaves and buds would be best discarded, and if its intended end use were for its pharmaceutical drug use, the main stems would be best discarded and the leaves and buds retained.

Or it might just be stored for winter livestock feed in the same way that farmers all over the world put baled hay in barns all over the world, in a basic cut, rake together, and bale operation.
 

umbrella39

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I want to know where the Afghani hash is. Growing up in the 70's, hash was everywhere. Black, brown, etc. Haven't seen it or heard of it in more than 20 years.
 

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
I want to know where the Afghani hash is. Growing up in the 70's, hash was everywhere. Black, brown, etc. Haven't seen it or heard of it in more than 20 years.

What happened was the Soviet invasion, the US and Pakistani sponsored mujahedin, and a switch to a more valuable cash crop- opium.

Worldwide demand for hashish has gone way up, as well, particularly in Russia and the former Eastern bloc. Smuggling into those areas vs the West is apparently extremely easy, corruption being what it is...

I'm completely disconnected from that scene today, and have been for many years, but I suspect it's still a function of being connected, and the best connections for hashish back then were at private universities, particularly to those who travelled on diplomatic passports...

Lots of things have changed with the US strong arming world govts into the whole WoD in the Reagan years and ever since, and now the WoT reinforces that. Casual smuggling was once rampant but is now a fool's move- the whole thing has moved into the realm of organized crime...
 

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
What the hell? Why are we forcing our asinine "War on Drugs" on other countries? Are they going to load ICBMs with marijuana and use it to stone the populace of several major cities?

I've got to side with GWB on this one, " Bring it on".
 

AlienCraft

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: ericlp
Ommmm 5,525 lbs of dope? Well my guess it wasn't primo dried out bud. I highly doubt America smokes that much weed in a year.

Sounds to me they were using it to make baskets or hemp rope, cloths out of it .... I doubt it was high grade stony weed.

5,525 lbs is NOTHING

"Calculating the total amount of marijuana available in a given year based on the amount seized during that year necessarily provides only a rough estimate. If only 10 percent of illicit drugs are seized in any given year, then, based on the figure of 2,412,365 pounds of marijuana seized in 2002, one could estimate that in 2002 the total amount of marijuana that traffickers succeeded in smuggling into the country was roughly 24 million pounds, or about 10,889 metric tons. If one doubles that amount to take into account the domestic production of marijuana that was not seized, then the total amount would be closer to 22,000 metric tons"

2 and half MILLION pounds...and thats only what was siezed.
That is such bullshit. More hyperinflating of figures assumed to be correct.
This is the same Government that values a pound of weed based on gross sales if it were all ,seeds & stems too, rolled into joints and sold during the 'dry' months.
Having only ancedotal experience with growing it, I would imagine the area in land, amount of water and manpower to cultivate and maintain that crop would hardly defy detection. They could in fact see it from orbit.
I say BULLSHIT.

 

AlienCraft

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
I want to know where the Afghani hash is. Growing up in the 70's, hash was everywhere. Black, brown, etc. Haven't seen it or heard of it in more than 20 years.
It's available everyday at coffe shops in Amsterdam. Had some myself back in 2003 when I was over there.