Dude our bonuses are going to suck this year.

[Mr Pickles]

I'm network support, so something inside this head of mine feels as though when the financial firm I work for doesn't do well it shouldn't affect my department. We did some amazing things this year: a full domain consolidation for 1100 customers, upgraded our exchange environment, upgraded 3 offices to T3 circuits, brought on 3 new aquired offices and acclimated them with our network standards. The list could go on but that's not the way things work. We're screwed...

This was a rediculously awesome year for Network Support but my company has been forced to restate 3 years worth of earnings which has required slews of auditors and millions of dollars in paying for such a project. The work needed brought 75% of the company working nights and weekends for months, seriously busting some ass. They were super appreciative of how hard we were working to make sure dealines were met and auditors were happy. We were told by the HR heads yesterday that they were very thankful for our work but we shouldn't expect a decent bonus because of the high cost of the restatement, which pretty much translated to all of us as "thanks for the hard work and busting your ass ten fold, but i'm not going to give you money for it..."

/wahh

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[JS80]

Since when do [blank] support get good bonuses?

 

[FoBoT]

:cucumber; + :brine; = ickle;

 

[Mr Pickles]

To give you an idea, my last one was roughly 3000. I've been working here for 3 years and have only been Network Support for 1 of them. I was helpdesk the years before.

They are seriously keeping things quiet around here but I wouldn't expect half that. It's just annoying, mainly because the employees are what kept the business in business during this restatement, not the managers. The wrench work done kept things together, not decision making and huffing and puffing at meetings and shit. But the managers are contractual and will get their bonuses regardless. One bonus from a VP could bay for a dozen bonuses for the little guy. But I get how that works, that's not what upsets me.

 

[theprodigalrebel]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
:cucumber; + :brine; = ickle;

O RLY?

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Consider the learning experience as your bonus.

 

[Mr Pickles]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
Consider the learning experience as your bonus.

Next time I'm at the grocery store I'll tell them to consider my learning experience as pay for my food and we'll finally see if that rent-a-cop can take someone down.

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Leave if it sucks so much.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: MrLee

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
Consider the learning experience as your bonus.

Next time I'm at the grocery store I'll tell them to consider my learning experience as pay for my food and we'll finally see if that rent-a-cop can take someone down.

or you could consider the PAY you earn from doing your job as "thanks for the hard work and busting your ass ten fold, but i'm not going to give you money for it..."


bonuses are just that... bonus. not to be counted on. not guaranteed.

(i got a killer bonus this year, so i can say that... otherwise id probably be more sympathetic)

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: MrLee
To give you an idea, my last one was roughly 3000. I've been working here for 3 years and have only been Network Support for 1 of them. I was helpdesk the years before.

They are seriously keeping things quiet around here but I wouldn't expect half that. It's just annoying, mainly because the employees are what kept the business in business during this restatement, not the managers. The wrench work done kept things together, not decision making and huffing and puffing at meetings and shit. But the managers are contractual and will get their bonuses regardless. One bonus from a VP could bay for a dozen bonuses for the little guy. But I get how that works, that's not what upsets me.

It's all relative because in my profession, $3k for a bonus "sucks." It's more or less a request for you to quit.

Believe it or not, network support monkeys are dime a dozen. A VP that can help a business survive a restatement is rare. Hence his bonus can bay for a dozen bonuses for the "little guy." But I need to know what your business does to be more accurate.

 

[compman25]

You're complaining about receiving free money? It's a bonus, not your wage or salary. Dumbass

 

[imported_Pie]

I work for a huge hospital company in a position not even remotely connected to patient care. However, our company has decided that this year our bonuses - everyone's - are completely dependent on patient satisfaction surveys. Which means that if the rate isn't over a certain amount - which hasn't been reached the last couple years, and this after a bunch of layoffs - no one gets a bonus. I think my bonus last year was $25, so it's not that big a deal. However, my company doesn't give raises other than cost of living ones either. No 6 month evaluation or anything like that.

 

[PoPPeR]

oh man, if you heard what auditors charge...

 

[dr150]

I LIKE BEER!

 

[chuckywang]

Originally posted by: Pie
I work for a huge hospital company in a position not even remotely connected to patient care. However, our company has decided that this year our bonuses - everyone's - are completely dependent on patient satisfaction surveys. Which means that if the rate isn't over a certain amount - which hasn't been reached the last couple years, and this after a bunch of layoffs - no one gets a bonus. I think my bonus last year was $25, so it's not that big a deal. However, my company doesn't give raises other than cost of living ones either. No 6 month evaluation or anything like that.

How the hell was your username not already taken?

 

[maxster]

Originally posted by: chuckywang

Originally posted by: Pie
I work for a huge hospital company in a position not even remotely connected to patient care. However, our company has decided that this year our bonuses - everyone's - are completely dependent on patient satisfaction surveys. Which means that if the rate isn't over a certain amount - which hasn't been reached the last couple years, and this after a bunch of layoffs - no one gets a bonus. I think my bonus last year was $25, so it's not that big a deal. However, my company doesn't give raises other than cost of living ones either. No 6 month evaluation or anything like that.

How the hell was your username not already taken?

Nobody likes pie?

 

[PokerGuy]

In most cases, a bonus is just that -- it's management's way of taking some of the profit the company makes and distributing it to those getting the work done to show their appreciation. If the company isn't doing very well, there should be no expectation of big (or any) bonuses. Be glad if you get any bonus!

Good to see the people work together and bust their butt to get things done and get the company back on track though, that's not all that common either. Hopefully management remembers that when/if things turn around so everyone can reap the rewards.

 

[rh71]

I've given up on any kind of just compensation. I've laughed at my bonuses the last few years and not getting a raise just topped it off. And I know people here do get them.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy
In most cases, a bonus is just that -- it's management's way of taking some of the profit the company makes and distributing it to those getting the work done to show their appreciation. If the company isn't doing very well, there should be no expectation of big (or any) bonuses. Be glad if you get any bonus!

Good to see the people work together and bust their butt to get things done and get the company back on track though, that's not all that common either. Hopefully management remembers that when/if things turn around so everyone can reap the rewards.

QFT

 

[Mr Pickles]

Originally posted by: compman25You're complaining about receiving free money? It's a bonus, not your wage or salary. Dumbass

stfu. thanks.

Originally posted by: PokeyGuyIn most cases, a bonus is just that -- it's management's way of taking some of the profit the company makes and distributing it to those getting the work done to show their appreciation. If the company isn't doing very well, there should be no expectation of big (or any) bonuses. Be glad if you get any bonus!

Good to see the people work together and bust their butt to get things done and get the company back on track though, that's not all that common either. Hopefully management remembers that when/if things turn around so everyone can reap the rewards.

It isn't something that I depened on, but its just frustrating when we know we did all we could and won't be thanked for it monetarily. And it's not like we did bad this year; I'm told we actually turned 400 million more than last year. It's just that all of this money was given to the the auditors to restate our earnings and that's what hits me so hard. We weren't going to compensated with bonuses no matter how amazing we did. Without us, the head hanchos that still get their contractual 200% would be out of work.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: MrLee

Originally posted by: compman25You're complaining about receiving free money? It's a bonus, not your wage or salary. Dumbass

stfu. thanks.

Originally posted by: PokeyGuyIn most cases, a bonus is just that -- it's management's way of taking some of the profit the company makes and distributing it to those getting the work done to show their appreciation. If the company isn't doing very well, there should be no expectation of big (or any) bonuses. Be glad if you get any bonus!

Good to see the people work together and bust their butt to get things done and get the company back on track though, that's not all that common either. Hopefully management remembers that when/if things turn around so everyone can reap the rewards.

It isn't something that I depened on, but its just frustrating when we know we did all we could and won't be thanked for it monetarily. And it's not like we did bad this year; I'm told we actually turned 400 million more than last year. It's just that all of this money was given to the the auditors to restate our earnings and that's what hits me so hard. We weren't going to compensated with bonuses no matter how amazing we did. Without us, the head hanchos that still get their contractual 200% would be out of work.

lol what auditor charges $400 million (or even close) for a restatement?

 

[Queasy]

We got the first part of our bonus in December and I was very pleasantly surprised. Everyone had been expecting a lot less. We're supposed to be getting the rest of our bonus in a couple of weeks and we're up to 115% payout. :Q I don't always like my job but I love this company.

 

[Toasthead]

no bonus for me...EVER

Govt Employee

 

[Mr Pickles]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: MrLee

Originally posted by: compman25You're complaining about receiving free money? It's a bonus, not your wage or salary. Dumbass

stfu. thanks.

Originally posted by: PokeyGuyIn most cases, a bonus is just that -- it's management's way of taking some of the profit the company makes and distributing it to those getting the work done to show their appreciation. If the company isn't doing very well, there should be no expectation of big (or any) bonuses. Be glad if you get any bonus!

Good to see the people work together and bust their butt to get things done and get the company back on track though, that's not all that common either. Hopefully management remembers that when/if things turn around so everyone can reap the rewards.

It isn't something that I depened on, but its just frustrating when we know we did all we could and won't be thanked for it monetarily. And it's not like we did bad this year; I'm told we actually turned 400 million more than last year. It's just that all of this money was given to the the auditors to restate our earnings and that's what hits me so hard. We weren't going to compensated with bonuses no matter how amazing we did. Without us, the head hanchos that still get their contractual 200% would be out of work.

lol what auditor charges $400 million (or even close) for a restatement?

That's not what the auditors are charging us, that's what we made. We were told the restatement has cost us 40 mil so far, split between 3 auditing firms.

 

[Xavier434]

I hate how end of the year bonuses are now more optional in the minds of employers than they have been in god knows how long. Yet, more overtime is expected these days on a regular basis. It's pretty messed up if you ask me. We need to go back to the days where overtime is no longer thought of as regular time and not giving good end of year bonuses is generally considered to be a terrible thing to do rather than it being "just business".