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GeekDrew

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Originally posted by: quentinterintino
I agree, canon rocks.. Sony wouldn't be too bad, but the proprietary memory really sours the deal for me.

Though far out of your price range, the Sony Cybershot DSC-F828 uses Sony's MemoryStick, but also uses CompactFlash and some other memory type... (read: no longer locked into using only proprietary memory types)
 

Ornery

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Your SLR shows exactly what the lens is seeing. Same with the DC. The image on your LCD is exactly what it will be saving to memory. Too bad most of the tiny camers have such small, pixilated LCDs.

You say you're used to an SLR. That means you're used to carrying around a bigger camera. Are you buying this to put in your pocket? I've noticed a lot of people who buy "pocket sized cameras", end up with cameras not quite small enough to really fit in their pocket. Oh, they'll fit if you're talking about a coat pocket, or cargo pants pocket, but generally not a shirt pocket. They also end up buying a bag for the camera, memory cards, charger, and maybe a tiny tripod. You better beleive that mess ain't gonna fit in your pocket!

The small cameras usually don't have a shoe for an external flash, which is a must for serious shooting. Some have an external flash connection, but not many.

I've got a FULL sized DC, and decided to get my son a more "pocketable" camera. After going through two different cameras, and spending close to $400.00 for the last one, we discovered that they really weren't point & shoot simple at all. Outdoors, or in decent light, they all shoot great, but we shoot a LOT of images at birthday parties, and other indoor events. If the light's too dim, these cameras can't focus easily, if at all. That's a pisser if you've spent so much money for the damn thing. You'd think they should easily be able to handle simple indoor shots, but it's amazing how many shots they miss!

We finally bit the bullet, and coughed up the money for the V1. Ain't cheap, but it works perfectly everytime, and it's only a few dollars more than you were going to pay. I predict you'd be upgrading to a better camera in a couple years anyway, so why not start shooting with a decent DC from the start?
 

Jejunum

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i vote the a80, its cheap and the manual controls allow you some experimentation.

and its freaking durable imho...dropped it on concrete, went canoeing with it, etc.
 

Sid59

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i own a V1. nice camera ...

got the V1 + warranty - retail
512 MB Sandisk Ultra II Memory Pro
52mm filter screw on barrel
52mm filter
2 extra C batteries
carrying case for the camera

475 shipped! takes nice pictures.
 

compfreak999

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i know someone that has the cannon a70, and i showed him my new sony dsc-p100 and he was amazed. i personally find the dsc-p100 really good, i got it for $300 through dell, after a few coupons. but otherwise get the a80.
 

Sid59

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Originally posted by: compfreak999
i know someone that has the cannon a70, and i showed him my new sony dsc-p100 and he was amazed. i personally find the dsc-p100 really good, i got it for $300 through dell, after a few coupons. but otherwise get the a80.

how do you like the P-100? i was gonna get it but it lacked some of the advanced features i like to use.

i really wished the W-1 came with more advanced features.
 

Ornery

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Originally posted by: dudeguy
ok I got the V1 in the end.
Well, where's the shots? There ain't no lernin' curve, 'cause it's truly a point & shoot camera. My son just took this one last week. Pretty typical.

Here's a battery for it. You'll need at least a couple. Keep your eye out for rebates on memory sticks. You just missed a couple $15.00 ones. In the mean time, if you can't wait, this ain't so bad.
 

bockchow

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i use a canon sd100, got it mostly since i already had a few SD cards from my memory stick. it's been a great digicam. one of the upgraded models would be great too. do you care what type of memory card it uses?
 

dudeguy

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Originally posted by: Ornery
Originally posted by: dudeguy
ok I got the V1 in the end.
Well, where's the shots? There ain't no lernin' curve, 'cause it's truly a point & shoot camera. My son just took this one last week. Pretty typical.

Here's a battery for it. You'll need at least a couple. Keep your eye out for rebates on memory sticks. You just missed a couple $15.00 ones. In the mean time, if you can't wait, this ain't so bad.


hi ornery.

thansk for the mem stick link, ill get one, just im in the uk, so ill have to check it all out at some point.

the camera is great, a little bulkier than expected but its got a bigger zoom i guess. i nearly went for the olympus c50, but it doesnt have manual focus, and since my bro and dad do sport i wanted to be able to focus onthe mid-distance and get them as they go past. for instance i tried taking a pic of the sunset last night from my room window. the lcd has a zoom on it, so when i zoomed in to see if the horizon and clouds were in focus, i discovered that the dirt on the window was in focus and the horison was a blur!!!

pixmania screwed up the next day shipping, and my dsl was down yesterday evening, so i only got a chance to post this tonite!

any way i am going to edinburgh at the weekend, my sis is in the fringe, my mom is there, and i went to uni there and im crashing with a couple of friends, so ill post some pics. can someone suggest a pic host that has a thnmbnail gallery for what i put on it?

cheers dude! good recommendation :beer:

living room ceiling, no flash, about 1mpixel

my flatmates in the kitchen on about 1m pixels, no flash
 

xEDIT409

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I just bought a Canon s60 4 days ago.

Got it for $408 from buy.com

Had to use a $15 dollar coupon found on the front page of Fatwallet.
 

compfreak999

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Originally posted by: Sid59
Originally posted by: compfreak999
i know someone that has the cannon a70, and i showed him my new sony dsc-p100 and he was amazed. i personally find the dsc-p100 really good, i got it for $300 through dell, after a few coupons. but otherwise get the a80.

how do you like the P-100? i was gonna get it but it lacked some of the advanced features i like to use.

i really wished the W-1 came with more advanced features.

its nice and small, lots of expansion options, like marine pack/additional flash and so on. only complaint is it can use some more zoom.
 

Ornery

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Originally posted by: dudeguy

hi ornery.

thansk for the mem stick link, ill get one, just im in the uk, so ill have to check it all out at some point.

the camera is great, a little bulkier than expected but its got a bigger zoom i guess. i nearly went for the olympus c50, but it doesnt have manual focus, and since my bro and dad do sport i wanted to be able to focus onthe mid-distance and get them as they go past. for instance i tried taking a pic of the sunset last night from my room window. the lcd has a zoom on it, so when i zoomed in to see if the horizon and clouds were in focus, i discovered that the dirt on the window was in focus and the horison was a blur!!!

pixmania screwed up the next day shipping, and my dsl was down yesterday evening, so i only got a chance to post this tonite!

any way i am going to edinburgh at the weekend, my sis is in the fringe, my mom is there, and i went to uni there and im crashing with a couple of friends, so ill post some pics. can someone suggest a pic host that has a thnmbnail gallery for what i put on it?

cheers dude! good recommendation :beer:

living room ceiling, no flash, about 1mpixel

my flatmates in the kitchen on about 1m pixels, no flash
This is typical of people who are used to SLRs. My son is doing the same thing, apparently because he has an "artist's eye". He keeps trying to shoot without the flash. I understand wanting to capture the image in natural light, but it takes a whole lot more skill, and time than most people are willing to invest. The most time consuming thing, is mounting it on a tripod. Nobody wants to bother with that! Also, you have to lock the exposure on your subject, in the case of a back lit scene like your second image. That shot probably would have required a half second, instead of the 1/30th it shot at.

Granted, that camera has ALL the manual overrides you can dream of, but I recommended it because of its point & shoot ease of use. Use that flash, and buy an external flash for it. If you're shooting a wedding, like poor Adul, with his PowerShot S1 IS, you'll understand why you need it. Won't matter a bit if your camera is able to fit in your pocket or not. You want GOOD pictures!

A couple other good reasons for the external flash, is the way it saves your camera battery, and its quick recycle time. When you're shooting a reception, and people are flying around dancing, drunk and doing stupid crap, you want to capture EVERYTHING! :p
 

Ornery

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Ooh, pretty eyes... :D

Seriously, that camera in full auto is a P&S dream. Helluva lot of money for a point & shoot, but any fewer features than the V1 provides, and the camera just falls short too often. Sad to say, that's the way it is today. Maybe someday we'll be able to get good images easily with a couple hundred dollar camera, but till that day comes, with that baby, you'll be sittin' pretty!
 

dudeguy

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Hi ornery.

Well I got back from Edinburgh in one piece. The camera was good, but I had a few questions.

When I take a portrait shot how do I rotate the shot so it outputs vertically rather than on its side. Bec when I did mode > then the rotate, as instructed by the guide, it rotated on the lcd but the output to the computer was unchanged (XP Pro), and I was left using picture preview to rotate the pic, however XP warns that there is some loss in quality associated with rotation. How do I get the portrait shot to output from the camera vertically?

Second I felt the colors could have been better. Do I change the settings from 100ISO to 400ISO?

Also is there a way to batch files from full size down to compressed?

Cheers.


peckhams deli, morningside, where I used to shop for goodies.


me and friend from uni

south clark street looking onto old college

the meadows
 

Ornery

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I never bothered with that rotate stuff in the camera. Not sure what that would even do. I just turn it sideways, shoot, and rotate it later with ACDSee, which is the de facto standard for viewing images. It can also batch rotate and resize, as well as a few other editing chores.

Do NOT use XP's built in image viewing utility. It changes the time and dates of the files as it copies them from the camera. It's also poor for any editing or resizing duties. Just use Windows Explorer to transfer from the camera to your image directories. Name the directories 2004-08-23, and 2004-08-29 etc. in order to keep them well organized and easy to navigate. Put a descriptive name at the end if you want, like 2004-08-25_University, or 2004-08-26_Peckhams. That way they'll still be in order, yet identifiable.

Most colors were perfect, but the green in the meadows is blown out. Use the manual white balance for that kind of issue. Otherwise, you can fix it in PhotoShop post process. The shot of you and your friend needed a bit more flash fill. The camera shot at 1/250th, which was too fast. You would have to stop down the aperture to get the slower shutter speed, but your scenic background would have been darker. You could set the exposure zoomed on your friend's face, but when you let go of the shutter to get in the picture, you lose the setting. An add on flash unit, set to high would probably do the trick, or again, PhotoShop could come to the rescue.

Lock your camera at ISO 100. Anything else adds noise. If you have to get extra exposure, go ahead and increase it, but you can do that post process as well. It will still be grainier, but no more so than the higher ISO settings.