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Duct Tape and Plastic Sheeting

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Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
Okay. I have my duct tape, plastic sheets, and 3 days worth of food. Just one more question? After I successfully seal off my apartment to keep the chem/bio agents out, how long do I have before I die of carbonmonoxide poisoning? Apartment is about 1300 square feet if that helps. 🙂


Lethal

Get a plant.
 
Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
Okay. I have my duct tape, plastic sheets, and 3 days worth of food. Just one more question? After I successfully seal off my apartment to keep the chem/bio agents out, how long do I have before I die of carbonmonoxide poisoning? Apartment is about 1300 square feet if that helps. 🙂


Lethal

Then you should get oxygen generator!
 
Originally posted by: Peetoeng
Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
Okay. I have my duct tape, plastic sheets, and 3 days worth of food. Just one more question? After I successfully seal off my apartment to keep the chem/bio agents out, how long do I have before I die of carbonmonoxide poisoning? Apartment is about 1300 square feet if that helps. 🙂


Lethal

Then you should get oxygen generator!

Don't air conditioning systems recirculate air? So houses and apartments don't get any fresh air except when someone opens the door or a window.
 
Duct tape is like The Force.

It has a Light Side and a Dark Side, and holds The Universe together




Confused
 
Originally posted by: everman
I'm just waiting for the news reports when some idiot puts the plastic over their head and suffocates.

Isn't that a modern form of natural selection/survival of the fittest?



Maybe we should just remove warning labels from everything and let the world's population problem sort itself out!


Confused
 
Originally posted by: everman
I'm just waiting for the news reports when some idiot puts the plastic over their head and suffocates.
I think several Israelis died during the Gulf War SCUD attacks after putting their gas masks on incorrectly.


 
I don't really understand why you're all making fun of this.

I bet you wouldn't be laughing if you really had to do it.

Being able to seal off a room with duct tape and 5mm plastic is better than breathing the sh!t in if anything does happen.
 
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Those people havent died yet? I thought for sure the Darwin theory would have killed off most of those people by now.

No, no, no. This is economic darwinism. 😛
 
Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Originally posted by: Peetoeng
Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
Okay. I have my duct tape, plastic sheets, and 3 days worth of food. Just one more question? After I successfully seal off my apartment to keep the chem/bio agents out, how long do I have before I die of carbonmonoxide poisoning? Apartment is about 1300 square feet if that helps. 🙂


Lethal

Then you should get oxygen generator!

Don't air conditioning systems recirculate air? So houses and apartments don't get any fresh air except when someone opens the door or a window.

Are you sure every duct in the system is airtight? I thought not.
 
Originally posted by: Kiyup
Wow this is interesting. What do I do with it?

Do you place the plastic sheeting over the terrorist's head and wrap the duct tape around his neck?

I believe they're the ingredients for the most fun children's game of all-time!
 
And the Bush administration wants everyone to remember, in case of a nucular (sic for DeafeningSilence) attack, duck and cover!!!
 
its for wrapping decompossing bodies of course. you don't want to see that ugly stuff in plain site u know.


funny how pitiful this administration is. fear everything! bah!


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"This great Nation will endure as it has endured, will revive and will prosper. So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself?nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance."

Franklin D. Roosevelt




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Nice how the govt loves to try to scare people.

Of course, a frightened public is much more likely to want things like the Patriot act, part two to be passed. And then, martial law getting declared. And then GWB will be named Czar. Conservatives will get the society they always wanted. Problem is, 95% of the conservatives do not make enough money to be considered part of the social elite and will get screwed in the a$$ with the rest of us.

HERE ARE THE FACTS: Nerve gasses will kill you before you can get your plastic up. If a terrorist spray bombs your apt building you will be dead before you turn on the tv and find out you should be duct taping your home. Also, every nerve gas or biological gas attack that has ever occured has been short lived and mostly a failure--the gas has to be released in an almost airtight arena anyway or the wind disperses it before it can harm anyone. Trust me, folks, this is not a terror threat of any magnitude. I would worry more about drowning in my bathtub.

And let's face facts, people: YOU ARE FAR MORE LIKELY TO DIE IN A CAR ACCIDENT ON THE WAY TO THE HARDWARE STORE THAN YOU ARE TO DIE IN A GAS ATTACK. The difference in the odds is so astronomical that people with even a simple grasp of math can understand it.

The administration is actually INCREASING your chances of dying if you have to make an extra trip to get the duct tape and the plastic. Oh and another trip to buy water and other useless sh!t that will do you no good.
 
Originally posted by: 3L33T32003
Nice how the govt loves to try to scare people.

Of course, a frightened public is much more likely to want things like the Patriot act, part two to be passed. And then, martial law getting declared. And then GWB will be named Czar. Conservatives will get the society they always wanted. Problem is, 95% of the conservatives do not make enough money to be considered part of the social elite and will get screwed in the a$$ with the rest of us.

HERE ARE THE FACTS: Nerve gasses will kill you before you can get your plastic up. If a terrorist spray bombs your apt building you will be dead before you turn on the tv and find out you should be duct taping your home. Also, every nerve gas or biological gas attack that has ever occured has been short lived and mostly a failure--the gas has to be released in an almost airtight arena anyway or the wind disperses it before it can harm anyone. Trust me, folks, this is not a terror threat of any magnitude. I would worry more about drowning in my bathtub.

And let's face facts, people: YOU ARE FAR MORE LIKELY TO DIE IN A CAR ACCIDENT ON THE WAY TO THE HARDWARE STORE THAN YOU ARE TO DIE IN A GAS ATTACK. The difference in the odds is so astronomical that people with even a simple grasp of math can understand it.

The administration is actually INCREASING your chances of dying if you have to make an extra trip to get the duct tape and the plastic. Oh and another trip to buy water and other useless sh!t that will do you no good.


I agree.

However, it is ALWAYS a good idea to have canned food, bottled water, batteries, a radio, etc. You never know when a natural disaster like a tornado, earthquake, or hurricane might strike. And if something DOES happen and you can't leave your house (quarrantine?) you'll be damn glad you have those extra cans of soup and boxes of crackers. Disaster preparedness is a GOOD thing... but like I said before, duct tape and plastic sheeting sound like trying to make yourself invisable with your bed sheets.
 
Originally posted by: Kiyup
Wow this is interesting. What do I do with it?

Do you place the plastic sheeting over the terrorist's head and wrap the duct tape around his neck?

yeah!
 
yeah i got my neighbor doing it too ..we are calling it bungee cords across america...come join me my brothas and sistas...let usssss....i say let usssss join our bungeeeeee cords against this nuclear threat ...can i get an AMEN!!

ROFLMAO!!! You guys are killing me 😛
 
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Those people havent died yet? I thought for sure the Darwin theory would have killed off most of those people by now.

they breed at an astonishingly higher rate than the rest of us.
 
Actually, as a department (maintenance) manager for a major plastic sheeting manufacturer. I can say with definate certainty that people are buying sheeting faster than we can make it. We primarily manufacture trash can liners, but we have shifted a good portion of our production over to making sheeting to meet the ridiculous demand.
 
Originally posted by: 911paramedic
For hazmat situations this is very common. You are better off sheltering in place, with a much smaller concentration of the substance, than going outside into much greater concentration. After a little while the air outside will clear up and it is safe to move again.

How this works is quite dependant on the substance released/present of course.


Ask anyone that lives around any chemical producing facility in the US. This is SOP!

Like others, I'm wondering why anyone is making fun of this. There is a cedible threat and chemical agents make a lot of sense if you want widespread panic. Nerve agents are expensive and more dangerous to the person carrying it than anyone else. Anthrax, smallpox or any number of other agents make a lot more sense than nerve agents.

You want a 'safe room' where exposure to the outside air is severly restricted. Most agents are dispersed by wind, rain and degraded by sunlight in just a couple of days.

One person and a vile smaller than a lady's compact would wreak havoc for millions.

Propaganda? If you think so, you are an idiot!
 
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: AvesPKS
I vaguely heard about this on the radio last night being an east coast phenomena. Anyone care to elaborate?

Basically, the same people that ran out to buy generators for Y2K are running out to buy duct tape and plastic sheeting in anticipation of a terrorist gas attack.

I was just talking to my cousin about 10 minutes ago about this. He works for a company that sells duct tape and was telling me that it was selling very well recently.
 
Originally posted by: Tominator
Originally posted by: 911paramedic
For hazmat situations this is very common. You are better off sheltering in place, with a much smaller concentration of the substance, than going outside into much greater concentration. After a little while the air outside will clear up and it is safe to move again.

How this works is quite dependant on the substance released/present of course.


Ask anyone that lives around any chemical producing facility in the US. This is SOP!

Like others, I'm wondering why anyone is making fun of this. There is a cedible threat and chemical agents make a lot of sense if you want widespread panic. Nerve agents are expensive and more dangerous to the person carrying it than anyone else. Anthrax, smallpox or any number of other agents make a lot more sense than nerve agents.

You want a 'safe room' where exposure to the outside air is severly restricted. Most agents are dispersed by wind, rain and degraded by sunlight in just a couple of days.

One person and a vile smaller than a lady's compact would wreak havoc for millions.

Propaganda? If you think so, you are an idiot!

Unless you know of the attack before hand and "secure" your home prior to the weapon being delivered I think yer SOL if you live where the weapon was delievered. I could be wrong though 'cause I don't know the in's and out's of bio/chem warfare.

For example, if a plane made a single pass over downtown DC and sprayed VX gas (which the UN knows Iraq possed in the 90's) into the air on a day w/little/no wind what would happen? How big would the affected area be? How long would it remain a "hot" zone? The time table of events probably looks like this. The plane passes over heard and "covers" the entire target area in a matter of minutes. Someone notices that it looked like it was spraying something. They call the local news. The local news intrupts local programing w/a warning that there might have just been a chemical attack. You just happen to be watching the news and immediately start to seal off yer home. My question is between the time the attack happends and the time people know there was an attack is there enough time to actually react to it or are you dead?


I think everyone is blowing the duct tape and plastic off because it sounds a whole heck of a lot like the duck and cover "safety" drill during the 50's to incase of a nuclear strike.


Lethal
 
Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
Originally posted by: Tominator
Originally posted by: 911paramedic
For hazmat situations this is very common. You are better off sheltering in place, with a much smaller concentration of the substance, than going outside into much greater concentration. After a little while the air outside will clear up and it is safe to move again.

How this works is quite dependant on the substance released/present of course.


Ask anyone that lives around any chemical producing facility in the US. This is SOP!

Like others, I'm wondering why anyone is making fun of this. There is a cedible threat and chemical agents make a lot of sense if you want widespread panic. Nerve agents are expensive and more dangerous to the person carrying it than anyone else. Anthrax, smallpox or any number of other agents make a lot more sense than nerve agents.

You want a 'safe room' where exposure to the outside air is severly restricted. Most agents are dispersed by wind, rain and degraded by sunlight in just a couple of days.

One person and a vile smaller than a lady's compact would wreak havoc for millions.

Propaganda? If you think so, you are an idiot!

Unless you know of the attack before hand and "secure" your home prior to the weapon being delivered I think yer SOL if you live where the weapon was delievered. I could be wrong though 'cause I don't know the in's and out's of bio/chem warfare.

For example, if a plane made a single pass over downtown DC and sprayed VX gas (which the UN knows Iraq possed in the 90's) into the air on a day w/little/no wind what would happen? How big would the affected area be? How long would it remain a "hot" zone? The time table of events probably looks like this. The plane passes over heard and "covers" the entire target area in a matter of minutes. Someone notices that it looked like it was spraying something. They call the local news. The local news intrupts local programing w/a warning that there might have just been a chemical attack. You just happen to be watching the news and immediately start to seal off yer home. My question is between the time the attack happends and the time people know there was an attack is there enough time to actually react to it or are you dead?


I think everyone is blowing the duct tape and plastic off because it sounds a whole heck of a lot like the duck and cover "safety" drill during the 50's to incase of a nuclear strike.


Lethal


Precisely.

How many days does it take anthrax or smallpox to incubate? We are talking about invisible things that, once we realize have been let loose, it will be too late. (The Stand is probably the best fiction depicting what could happen) I don't think any of this is stuff to make fun of... but having plastic sheeting and duct tape is going to give a lot of people a false sense of security.

On the otherhand, I do have a supply of stuff to help counteract radiation sickness, and if a dirty bomb did go off anywhere near me, I'd try like heck to seal us off as much as possible. I have enough food and water to last a few days, and yes, I have all kinds of plants, but I always have loved growing things. I don't have any plastic sheeting but I do have a large closet where we would go in case of a tornado, etc. Anyway, that's where you'll find our bodies. 😛

My advice for those fearing terrorist attacks is simply this:

Love each other, and live each moment as fully as possible. Period.

 
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