Ducks getting screwed in BCS?

[BlancoNino]

So I was looking at the BCS poll and I was wondering why Oregon (10-1) isn't in the top 5. USC and Texas are rightfully where they are, and Penn State has been pretty dominant. But so have the ducks. Their only loss is to #1 USC and they have a very quality win over Fresno State who could easily match up well with anyone in the nation. If you look at their pac-10 games they beat everyone pretty good and even won against Cal and WSU (both good teams despite their records) with their backup QB's.

I think writers try to undermine the Pac-10 efforts. LSU got some really lucky breaks against Arizona State with blocked kicks and stuff to come from behind late in the game and barely beat ASU whereas the ducks trounced them pretty well.

I'm not a huge Oregon fan but I kind of feel for them especially if they get scewed out of a BCS bid in favor of a 2 loss Big Ten school.

 

[Nick5324]

That 2 loss big ten school being The Ohio State University. I've always been a buckeye fan, but I must admit it looks like Oregon will get the shaft. It is worth noting that our 2 losses are to BCS #2 Texas by 3 points, and BCS #3 PSU by 7. Seems 1-2 teams always get screwed by the BCS.

 

[BlancoNino]

The only win that Ohio State has that can compare to the quality of Fresno State is Michigan, who I don't believe is as good as Fresno State. But if you want to say they both have 1 quality win, then you'd have to go with the fact that Oregon has only lost 1 game. But for some reason they don't.

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Of course Oregon is going to get screwed. Just like they got screwed a few years back in Harrington's last year when they should have been in the Championship game instead of Nebraska who ended up getting rolled. PAC-10 teams always get the shaft if there is any possible way to screw them. Just the way it is.

 

[MikeMike]

OSU' schedule (the opponents ranking is their ranking at the time they played, i have put in parenthesis the opponents current ranking)
09/03 Miami (OH) W 34-14
09/10 #2 Texas L 25-22 (2)
09/17 SDSU W 27-6
09/24 #21 Iowa W 31-6 (unranked)
10/08 at #16 Penn State L 17-10 (3)
10/15 #16 Mich St W 35-24 (unranked)
10/22 at Indiana W 41-10
10/29 at Minnesota W 45-31
11/05 Illinois W 40-2
11/12 #25 N'western W 48-7 (25)
11/19 at #17 Michigan W 25-21 (22)

Oregon schedule (same deal)
09/01 at Houston W 38-24
09/10 Montana W 47-14
09/17 #23 Fresno St W 37-34 (19)
09/24 #1 USC L 45-13 (1)
10/01 at Stanford W 44-20
10/08 at #17 Arizona St W 31-17 (unranked)
10/15 Washington W 45-21
10/22 at Arizona W 28-21
11/05 #23 California W 27-20 (unranked)
11/12 at Wash St W 34-31
11/19 Oregon St W 56-14

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OSU has played 4 teams still ranked in the top 25, 2 of whom are in the top 3.

Oregon has played 2 teams still ranked in top 25, 1 in first (loss) one ranked 19th

OSU beat the current 22nd and 25th. their losses were by less (45-13 for Oregon vs. USC, totalling 32 pts, while OSU has lost by a combined total of 10 points)

OSU is a better team, they know what to do now and have everything under control.

 

[NeoV]

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"The only win that Ohio State has that can compare to the quality of Fresno State is Michigan, who I don't believe is as good as Fresno State"

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Fresno St is a nice little team, but they are a smaller version of Michigan St in the Big 10 - and before you go ripping on MSU, ask Notre Dame what they thought of MSU. Fresno MIGHT end up with 5 or 6 wins playing a Big 10 schedule this year.

LSU's close game against ASU was shortly after Katrina, which had a bit of an impact on that team and their preparations - LSU is WAY better than anyone in the Pac10 other than USC.

Last year Cal was the one crying about getting shafted, and they lost a bowl game to .....Texas Tech, and badly at that.

Oregon isn't a bad team at all, but the fact of the matter is that outside of USC, the Pac 10 isn't very good. SEC, ACC, Big 10 are all much better conferences....the Big 12 is actually a lot like the Pac10 this year...one great team, a few decent teams, and a bunch of very average teams. Also, Oregon didn't play UCLA this year, which is probably the 2nd best team in the Pac10..I would say Oregon vs UCLA might depend on where they play.

 

[thesurge]

The DUcks also got screwed like 3-4 years ago.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Of course Oregon is going to get screwed. Just like they got screwed a few years back in Harrington's last year when they should have been in the Championship game instead of Nebraska who ended up getting rolled. PAC-10 teams always get the shaft if there is any possible way to screw them. Just the way it is.

oregon's performance in that game makes me think they would have been rolled just like nebraska was.


with the bcs, keep in mind that if you don't win your conference those bowls don't owe you sh!t.

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Of course Oregon is going to get screwed. Just like they got screwed a few years back in Harrington's last year when they should have been in the Championship game instead of Nebraska who ended up getting rolled. PAC-10 teams always get the shaft if there is any possible way to screw them. Just the way it is.

oregon's performance in that game makes me think they would have been rolled just like nebraska was.


with the bcs, keep in mind that if you don't win your conference those bowls don't owe you sh!t.

What game are you talking about? That was the year that Oregon played, and thumped, Colorado in their bowl game. Colorado was the team that beat the crap out of Nebraska at the end of the season that year.

 

[dethman]

only one win against a currently ranked opponent and rolled by USC? no way they should be in the top 5. they are a good team, but not that good.

 

[hdeck]

lol oregon is bad.

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino
The only win that Ohio State has that can compare to the quality of Fresno State is Michigan, who I don't believe is as good as Fresno State. But if you want to say they both have 1 quality win, then you'd have to go with the fact that Oregon has only lost 1 game. But for some reason they don't.

Just because Fresno State played the game of their lifetimes and gave USC a game doesn't mean they are on the level of a Michigan, even in a down year for Mich. OSU beat Mich and fell only 1-2 plays short beating the BCS #2 and #3 teams. That's a lot more to go on than beating one ranked team which is all Oregon has done.

 

[BlancoNino]

I do recall the year everyone was thinking Colorado was the best team in the nation and should play Miami for the championship despite being a 2 loss team. They went up against 1-loss oregon and got ROLLED.

Pac-10 teams are better than anyone gives them credit. They lose to out of conference teams, yes, but they do an equal share of pounding them too. Last year wasn't a very good year for the pac-10, I'll admit (except USC), but honestly I think the ducks would beat Ohio State if they were to play them because they have such a solid defense and one of the best offenses in the nation.

When LSU played ASU, that was ASU's freshman QB's FIRST game. That will have a way bigger impact. USC rolled Arkansas that almost beat LSU too. I guess we'll find out when Bowl season comes about.

If you don't think there is a bias in the polls, just look at the 1991 Washington vs 1991 Miami season...Washington went undefeated and DOMINATED their opponents but BARELY grabbed a first place spot in the coaches poll to SHARE a title with Miami and their big least schedule. And then look at 2000 where Washington and Miami were both 1 loss teams...and Miami's loss came to Washington and Miami maintained a 1 spot ranking better than them. EVEN THOUGH IT WAS PROVEN WASHINGTON WAS A BETTER TEAM!

Face it, Oregon is getting screwed this year. Bellotti knows how to coach in bowl games and I'd be pretty scared if I had to go up against them. The pac-10 is a TOUGH division, that's why everyone beat eachother up this year.

 

[preslove]

Without USC the Pac Ten is a hair better than the Big East. It's a pathetic excuse for a conference. Oregon is OVER-rated, not under. Auburn, Alabama, and Georgia (with shockley) would all beat Oregon. I could see Florida giving them a run for their money.

 

[BlancoNino]

You're so wrong. The pac-10 is always underrated in the season and a lot of the time they prove that they are just as good or better than good SEC and Big-10 schools every year.

 

[SofaKing]

lol

 

[hdeck]

i suppose they will end up in the holiday bowl and lose to a big 12 team like cal did last year after all their whining.

 

[gabemcg]

was anyone else expecting to see duck porn???

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino
You're so wrong. The pac-10 is always underrated in the season and a lot of the time they prove that they are just as good or better than good SEC and Big-10 schools every year.

:roll: dude, have fun in fantasy land. If you replaced the 10 with a 12, it would be ok. The SEC??? Are you tripping?

 

[Train]

In any of the other Major conferences, Oregon would have three or more losses, not one. Maybe they are better than thier BCS ranking, but there just isnt any justification for it, they dont have any quality wins. Fresno State? you're counting that as a quality win? Didn't Ohio State beat them like 50-3 a couple years ago?

 

[RichieZ]

perhaps somebody could explain to me how northwestern is ranked #25?

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: RichieZ
perhaps somebody could explain to me how northwestern is ranked #25?

because there's only 24 teams ranked higher.

 

[drum]

Michigan isn't as good as fresno State? ROFLMAO!
you have to be joking, high, or both. I'm no ohio state fan, but if oregon played osu's schedule this year, they would not have 1 loss.

 

[Train]

In other news...

Fresno State is currently losing to unranked Nevada....

 

[Shame]

If the Ducks or Fresno State played just the bottom six teams in the Big Ten, they wouldn't be even be bowl eligable..