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'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended for comments on homosexuals

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I was going to make an actual comment about A&E and Phil Dynasty and this situation but three things became clear to me while reading the first 300 posts:

1. Nobody has actually read the actual GQ article
2. There are lots of idiots in OT
3. I have no patience to read through post after post of idiots

So you get this post about how worthless you all are. You're welcome.
 
I was going to make an actual comment about A&E and Phil Dynasty and this situation but three things became clear to me while reading the first 300 posts:

1. Nobody has actually read the actual GQ article
2. There are lots of idiots in OT
3. I have no patience to read through post after post of idiots

So you get this post about how worthless you all are. You're welcome.

So you have read it and you're enlightened but you're just going to post about how worthless we all are because we are clueless? Congrats, your post is now the most worthless post in this thread. :thumbsdown:

FTR-I haven't read the article and I don't give a shit about duck dodgers and his hillbilly clan nor do I give a shit that A&E fired him. Cry me a river duck dodgers. 😛
 
Do you actually have something to say?

You've "bullied" me into it I guess. But based on where the conversation has gone in the first 300 posts, this is as off topic as me saying I'm not going to comment.

If you read the GQ article instead of just reading the Phil quotes in it, you'll see that the article is about how A&E has tried to separate the brand of "Duck Dynasty" with the views of the Robertson clan. They actively edit out the Christian and Republican parts. They have tried to sanitize the TV show into something every American can love no matter if you are a Christian, Wiccan, Muslim, Hindu, Libertarian or Communist. No shit that they aren't happy that someone went around them and "diluted" the brand like Phil did. I'd fire him/them too.

I disagree with his personal views and at the same time think A&E (which is owned by two of the evilest corporations of all time, Disney and Hearst) was wrong to do this, but I totally understand why they did and I would probably do the same too if I was Phil's boss.
 
The liberal media in this country is a bunch of intolerant hate mongers with no respect for religion or free speech for anyone who disagrees with them.
 
Y'know those darkies had it really good before all that civil rights nonsense. They were really happy and never sang the blues.

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More of that civil rights stuff going on in the South while Phil was growing up before the federal government came in a ruined the good ole' days...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_civil_rights_workers'_murders

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till
 
You've "bullied" me into it I guess. But based on where the conversation has gone in the first 300 posts, this is as off topic as me saying I'm not going to comment.

If you read the GQ article instead of just reading the Phil quotes in it, you'll see that the article is about how A&E has tried to separate the brand of "Duck Dynasty" with the views of the Robertson clan. They actively edit out the Christian and Republican parts. They have tried to sanitize the TV show into something every American can love no matter if you are a Christian, Wiccan, Muslim, Hindu, Libertarian or Communist. No shit that they aren't happy that someone went around them and "diluted" the brand like Phil did. I'd fire him/them too.

I disagree with his personal views and at the same time think A&E (which is owned by two of the evilest corporations of all time, Disney and Hearst) was wrong to do this, but I totally understand why they did and I would probably do the same too if I was Phil's boss.

So wait, it is wildly successful in its current form but phil the duck dodgers is unhappy because the show doesn't accurately represent his views? Well, boo fucking hoo.

Here's a thought, and I haven't done any research on this, I'm just going off your post, but if they didn't sanitize the show it sounds like they'd have something everyone would hate... so really they wouldn't even have a show?

Seems like an issue between A&E and duck dodgers and his hillbilly clan and A&E is probably right.

And I still don't give a fuck.
 
rednecks gonna redneck. I thought that was the premise of the show?

Never seen it, I'm just guessing from the godawful merchandise I see strewn about.
 
Y'know those darkies had it really good before all that civil rights nonsense. They were really happy and never sang the blues.


More of that civil rights stuff going on in the South while Phil was growing up before the federal government came in a ruined the good ole' days...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_civil_rights_workers'_murders

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till

That is not what he was talking about, and you know it. Or you are a Simpleton..

Were you ever on a real southern farm back in the early 1960's. If the answer is no then you are unqualified to discuss the subject. I was.
 
That is not what he was talking about, and you know it. Or you are a Simpleton..

Were you ever on a real southern farm back in the early 1960's. If the answer is no then you are unqualified to discuss the subject. I was.


Tell you what, I grew up in SE Georgia during the 1950's-1960's and I even went to farms. (Had friends that had farms in Hephzibah, Blythe, and many other small farming communities outside Augusta, GA.)

Sure, the blacks back then seemed contented.....singing, hoeing cotton, etc. Just as I'm sure they were really contented to be forced to sit in the back of the bus.....the buses back then, at least the ones in Augusta, used a black rubber-type flooring with a 3" white piece of rubber imbedded in the floor, making a white line across the floor, just ahead of the back door. Signage on the interior of the bus plainly stated "Colored behind the white line." Yep, dem coloreds just loved that!

And the blacks also loved the separate water fountains (they were labeled colored only or white only) separate waiting rooms in any establishment that allowed blacks to enter the establishment, usually through the back door. Train stations come to mind....took a train from Augusta to Boston when I was 5 years old and distinctly remember the "Colored Only" waiting room and "White Only" waiting area. And the blacks just loved not being able to frequent certain establishments simply because they were black....Woolworth's was one store on Broad Street in downtown Augusta that had a whites only policy, among the vast majority of stores. If the blacks wanted to shop, they had to do it in the black operated stores or in the very few stores operated by enlightened whites.

And woe unto any black that dared enter a "Whites Only" establishment...that meant instant arrest and jail, never mind the pounding he'd take for daring to enter a white establishment, much less try to mingle with whites.

But if you try to narrow your scope of blacks back in the 1950's to farming only, and try to deny any of the other ills of discrimination in society back then, sure it appeared the blacks were "contented." Heck, they sang.....work songs that frequently were purposefully obtuse/unable to be understood by whites because they frequently spoke to the trials and troubles of being colored in a white world.

And while Robertson may have been poor white trash, as he put it, he certainly had advantages the colored folk didn't have, such as being able to actually buy land and own his own farm and progress upward. This is something coloreds just could not do---buy land, and while not typically written/codified as law, may as well have been. Blacks were not usually given the opportunity to buy land....well, except minor, small parcels the whites found to be not good for much, esp. farming. Almost all blacks back then were sharecroppers and the end result was unending poverty as the rent for the land usually was just under what they could grow and sell. And the prices blacks got for their crops were nowhere near what whites got.

Guess that's what contented was about...that whites just didn't have to interact with blacks in any way except when the black was serving the white in jobs such as janitor, maid, etc.

Yeah, it was so good back then for the coloreds. The white conservative establishment back then just couldn't fathom that coloreds could possibly be discontented....the hangings were decreasing in frequency, they got to eat, etc., etc. That damn Civil Rights crap was just meddling by those damned liburls and progressives.


To deny society was screwed up completely in relation to race back in the '50's is to deny reality.
 
That is not what he was talking about, and you know it. Or you are a Simpleton..

Were you ever on a real southern farm back in the early 1960's. If the answer is no then you are unqualified to discuss the subject. I was.

The fact I cracked a history book makes me qualified. You and a lot of southern conservatives actually believe that bullshit. "See those people are always smilin' and callin' me sir. They didn't have it so bad."

Remember that forum during the last RNC convention about racism when the guy stood up and said "slavery wasn't so bad. At least they had 3 hots and a cot"
 
The fact I cracked a history book makes me qualified. You and a lot of southern conservatives actually believe that bullshit. "See those people are always smilin' and callin' me sir. They didn't have it so bad."

Remember that forum during the last RNC convention about racism when the guy stood up and said "slavery wasn't so bad. At least they had 3 hots and a cot"


Well, that defines one of the enduring qualities of a conservative.....not wanting anything to change and resisting change when it arrives. Fortunately, most southerners have become at least somewhat enlightened.


And substitute prison for slavery and you have something close to reality today.
 
The liberal media in this country is a bunch of intolerant hate mongers with no respect for religion or free speech for anyone who disagrees with them.

That might be true if Murdoch didn't own the most widely viewed network and didn't continue to buy up everything in sight(WSJ). It might also be true if we had a liberal party. It might also be true if free speech applied, but it doesn't.

If religion is used as an excuse to feed hate and fear, then there isn't much point in it, is there?
 
'DUCK DYNASTY'
Family Says ...
WE WON'T DO THE SHOW WITHOUT PHIL


The Robertson family just drew a line in the sand with A&E -- NO PHIL, NO SHOW ... and says they are already talking to the cable channel about possibly pulling the plug on "Duck Dynasty."

The family issued a statement saying, "As a family, we cannot imagine the show going forward without our patriarch at the helm. We are in discussions with A&E to see what that means for the future of 'Duck Dynasty.'"

They also say they're "disappointed" that Phil Robertson was suspended by A&E just for expressing his religious beliefs ... which, they point out, is his "constitutionally protected right."

Fun fact: "Duck Dynasty" is the highest rated cable reality TV show ever.

Way to go A&E.
http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2013/12/19/duck-dynasty-robertson-family-statement-phil
 
The liberal media in this country is a bunch of intolerant hate mongers with no respect for religion or free speech for anyone who disagrees with them.


And the simple minds continue to blather without thinking.

No one is trying to stifle free speech.....if that had been the case, the interview would have never been published. That would have been denial of free speech.

Instead, he had his say. But his free speech had consequences, as does anyone's free speech. You are indeed free to run into a crowded movie theater and yell "FIRE!" But you'll have to suffer the consequences of your speech.

You are free to criticize the president, call in a bomb hoax, say anything you want. But you also must be willing to suffer the consequences of that free speech you've chosen to exercise.

The religion part....meh. I think the attitude is no one is denying you the right to exercise your faith, but don't force your faith and its beliefs/attitudes upon others who choose not to believe as you do. That's what that is about. Not some hidden agenda to squash religion.
 
Paglia: Duck Dynasty uproar ‘utterly fascist, utterly Stalinist’

“I think that this intolerance by gay activists toward the full spectrum of human beliefs is a sign of immaturity, juvenility,” Paglia said. “This is not the mark of a true intellectual life. This is why there is no cultural life now in the U.S. Why nothing is of interest coming from the major media in terms of cultural criticism. Why the graduates of the Ivy League with their A, A, A+ grades are complete cultural illiterates, etc. is because they are not being educated in any way to give respect to opposing view points.”

“There is a dialogue going on human civilization, for heaven sakes. It’s not just this monologue coming from fanatics who have displaced the religious beliefs of their parents into a political movement,” she added. “And that is what happened to feminism, and that is what happened to gay activism, a fanaticism.”

One more opinion.

Uno
 
I was going to make an actual comment about A&E and Phil Dynasty and this situation but three things became clear to me while reading the first 300 posts:

1. Nobody has actually read the actual GQ article
2. There are lots of idiots in OT
3. I have no patience to read through post after post of idiots

So you get this post about how worthless you all are. You're welcome.

Merry Christmas. kiss my ass. kiss his ass. kiss your ass. happy hanukkah
 
I honestly just can't believe there is enough people that watch this show to 1)Have the ratings it has, 2)Sell the ridiculous amount of merchandise they sell, 3)Create enough outrage over something any one of them says.

Speaks a lot about America really.
 
I'll defend anyone's right to say whatever the hell they want to, but they can't be outraged when that free speech has consequences.

I don't blame A&E for not wanting to be seen as condoning the bigoted statements.
 
I don't blame A&E for not wanting to be seen as condoning the bigoted statements.

And what statement of his are you saying was "bigoted"

(1) That homosexual activity is a sin

(2) That butt-sex is icky.

Seems to me like "bigoted statements" has no been redefined to mean anything that isn't celebrating homosexual lifestyles.
 
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