Dubya's New Drug of Choice:

smashp

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Well as many of the conservative talking head on the radio will tell you, the Problem with Bill Clinton and the Problem With Howard Dean is that both will "SAY OR DO ANYTHING" to Grasp or maintain power.


Well, well.

Sound more like our Current President has this addiction Also.

Immigration Law reform = HISPANIC VOTES
Medicare Reform= Senior Votes


Their great leader with Integrity is now doing everything and Anything He can to Maintain His new addiction to Power.


Personnally i feel the people were safer when he was driving Drunk
 
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...difference is, Bush is delivering on what he said to get elected....going after votes implies that he is producing policy that voters want, and you somehow think this is wrong?
 
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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
...difference is, Bush is delivering on what he said to get elected....going after votes implies that he is producing policy that voters want, and you somehow think this is wrong?

From a political strategy point of view, I don't think it's wrong. From a policy point of view, I think he does a LOT of wrong on a daily basis. Increased subsidies for farmers, the ridiculous new medicare bill, possibly granting amnesty to all the illegals here, more subsidies for other industries...yeah, he's a f8ck up in a lot of ways. I think the only thing I DO appreciate is the war in Iraq, and that's only because I advocate the overthrow of dictators and the liberation of mankind everywhere.

Weird, I know, this whole idea of "people should be free" will never stick.

Jason
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
...difference is, Bush is delivering on what he said to get elected....going after votes implies that he is producing policy that voters want, and you somehow think this is wrong?

But Caddy told me the addiction to government spending is sourced in the people and we're at fault. I just never know who to believe. Oh dear. woe is me.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
...difference is, Bush is delivering on what he said to get elected....going after votes implies that he is producing policy that voters want, and you somehow think this is wrong?

But Caddy told me the addiction to government spending is sourced in the people and we're at fault. I just never know who to believe. Oh dear. woe is me.

Yep - and Galt hit it on the head. He campaigned on it - people wanted it - now they get it. Now if people really DON'T want it -then Congress needs to give them a more representative voice. But you see - people have for too long asked for and demanded to "get" things and programs from the gov't so it's real tough for them to change or for the pols to actually see that.

CkG
 

Witling

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Let me get this straight. Clinton and Dean would do anything to seize and maintain power.

Does "anything," mean going as far as starting an irrelevant war?

Does it mean, radically changing immigration policy? (As suggested in the first post by Smashp?
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Whitling
Let me get this straight. Clinton and Dean would do anything to seize and maintain power.

Does "anything," mean going as far as starting an irrelevant war?

Does it mean, radically changing immigration policy? (As suggested in the first post by Smashp?

Irrelevant? Bwuahahahaha. :D People bash the U.S. for not coming to the aid of countries that ask in the name of human rights. We help free a country from that animal and we get bashed again for it. See, we can't do anything right!
 

Genesys

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Originally posted by: Whitling
Let me get this straight. Clinton and Dean would do anything to seize and maintain power.

Does "anything," mean going as far as starting an irrelevant war? no, libs hate wars for some odd reason

Does it mean, radically changing immigration policy? (As suggested in the first post by Smashp? of course, if Gray Davis will consider it at his lowly governor level, why wouldnt a more radical thinking president?

 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
...difference is, Bush is delivering on what he said to get elected....going after votes implies that he is producing policy that voters want, and you somehow think this is wrong?

But Caddy told me the addiction to government spending is sourced in the people and we're at fault. I just never know who to believe. Oh dear. woe is me.

Yep - and Galt hit it on the head. He campaigned on it - people wanted it - now they get it. Now if people really DON'T want it -then Congress needs to give them a more representative voice. But you see - people have for too long asked for and demanded to "get" things and programs from the gov't so it's real tough for them to change or for the pols to actually see that.

CkG

Right, it's not pandering for votes unless a democrat does it. Republicans are merely delivering what the people want. Yup.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
...difference is, Bush is delivering on what he said to get elected....going after votes implies that he is producing policy that voters want, and you somehow think this is wrong?

But Caddy told me the addiction to government spending is sourced in the people and we're at fault. I just never know who to believe. Oh dear. woe is me.

Yep - and Galt hit it on the head. He campaigned on it - people wanted it - now they get it. Now if people really DON'T want it -then Congress needs to give them a more representative voice. But you see - people have for too long asked for and demanded to "get" things and programs from the gov't so it's real tough for them to change or for the pols to actually see that.

CkG

Right, it's not pandering for votes unless a democrat does it. Republicans are merely delivering what the people want. Yup.


I didn't say it wasn't pandering - I'm just saying(as I assume Galt is) that he pandered when he ran for president - it isn't some NEW ploy for re-election votes.

CkG
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
...difference is, Bush is delivering on what he said to get elected....going after votes implies that he is producing policy that voters want, and you somehow think this is wrong?

But Caddy told me the addiction to government spending is sourced in the people and we're at fault. I just never know who to believe. Oh dear. woe is me.

Yep - and Galt hit it on the head. He campaigned on it - people wanted it - now they get it. Now if people really DON'T want it -then Congress needs to give them a more representative voice. But you see - people have for too long asked for and demanded to "get" things and programs from the gov't so it's real tough for them to change or for the pols to actually see that.

CkG

So YOU agree with his MediCare reform and YOU agree with his ILLEGAL alien REWARDS PROGRAM ??

 

smashp

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
...difference is, Bush is delivering on what he said to get elected....going after votes implies that he is producing policy that voters want, and you somehow think this is wrong?

But Caddy told me the addiction to government spending is sourced in the people and we're at fault. I just never know who to believe. Oh dear. woe is me.

Yep - and Galt hit it on the head. He campaigned on it - people wanted it - now they get it. Now if people really DON'T want it -then Congress needs to give them a more representative voice. But you see - people have for too long asked for and demanded to "get" things and programs from the gov't so it's real tough for them to change or for the pols to actually see that.

CkG

Right, it's not pandering for votes unless a democrat does it. Republicans are merely delivering what the people want. Yup.


WE have a winner......... The Good ol Doublespeak from the Talking dittoheads.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
...difference is, Bush is delivering on what he said to get elected....going after votes implies that he is producing policy that voters want, and you somehow think this is wrong?

But Caddy told me the addiction to government spending is sourced in the people and we're at fault. I just never know who to believe. Oh dear. woe is me.

Yep - and Galt hit it on the head. He campaigned on it - people wanted it - now they get it. Now if people really DON'T want it -then Congress needs to give them a more representative voice. But you see - people have for too long asked for and demanded to "get" things and programs from the gov't so it's real tough for them to change or for the pols to actually see that.

CkG

So YOU agree with his MediCare reform and YOU agree with his ILLEGAL alien REWARDS PROGRAM ??

You seem to not be paying attention.:)

CkG

 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
...difference is, Bush is delivering on what he said to get elected....going after votes implies that he is producing policy that voters want, and you somehow think this is wrong?

But Caddy told me the addiction to government spending is sourced in the people and we're at fault. I just never know who to believe. Oh dear. woe is me.

Yep - and Galt hit it on the head. He campaigned on it - people wanted it - now they get it. Now if people really DON'T want it -then Congress needs to give them a more representative voice. But you see - people have for too long asked for and demanded to "get" things and programs from the gov't so it's real tough for them to change or for the pols to actually see that.

CkG

So YOU agree with his MediCare reform and YOU agree with his ILLEGAL alien REWARDS PROGRAM ??

You seem to not be paying attention.:)

CkG

I know you don't agree with those policies.. but you are sugar coating his transgressions by labeling them as campaign promises... BTW, these policies will affect the good ol USA for many decades.. these are not simple little changes to our system and our constitution and our legal system....
 

Gaard

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This may be irrelevant, but does anyone think that Bush would push this immigration thing if the election were 3 years away instead of less than a year?


Irrelevant? Bwuahahahaha. People bash the U.S. for not coming to the aid of countries that ask in the name of human rights. We help free a country from that animal and we get bashed again for it. See, we can't do anything right!
But ask yourself this Nik. Did we free that country, as you say, in the name of human rights?
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
...difference is, Bush is delivering on what he said to get elected....going after votes implies that he is producing policy that voters want, and you somehow think this is wrong?

But Caddy told me the addiction to government spending is sourced in the people and we're at fault. I just never know who to believe. Oh dear. woe is me.

Yep - and Galt hit it on the head. He campaigned on it - people wanted it - now they get it. Now if people really DON'T want it -then Congress needs to give them a more representative voice. But you see - people have for too long asked for and demanded to "get" things and programs from the gov't so it's real tough for them to change or for the pols to actually see that.

CkG

So YOU agree with his MediCare reform and YOU agree with his ILLEGAL alien REWARDS PROGRAM ??

You seem to not be paying attention.:)

CkG

I know you don't agree with those policies.. but you are sugar coating his transgressions by labeling them as campaign promises... BTW, these policies will affect the good ol USA for many decades.. these are not simple little changes to our system and our constitution and our legal system....

No - it's not sugar coating anything. He campaigned on this subject. Does it make it right? Hell no - but like I said - it isn't some NEW ploy for re-election votes.
Plus I have not fully read any proposal by Bush on this and my end descision on this matter will be concluded from the actual details instead of just all the rhetoric that is flying about. Right now though, it's not looking good for me supporting this Bush proposal, if.

CkG
 

Ldir

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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
...difference is, Bush is delivering on what he said to get elected (BAA)....going after votes implies that he is producing policy that voters want (BAA), and you somehow think this is wrong? (BAA)

Like not nation building, restoring integrity to the Whitehouse, reducing government, and being a uniter, not a divider?


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Bush Apologists of America (BAA): pulling the wool over America's eyes since 1980
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex


I think the only thing I DO appreciate is the war in Iraq, and that's only because I advocate the overthrow of dictators and the liberation of mankind everywhere.

Weird, I know, this whole idea of "people should be free" will never stick.

Jason
No the idea of being at war for the next 500 years to try achieve your lofty goal will never stick!
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
...difference is, Bush is delivering on what he said to get elected....going after votes implies that he is producing policy that voters want, and you somehow think this is wrong?

But Caddy told me the addiction to government spending is sourced in the people and we're at fault. I just never know who to believe. Oh dear. woe is me.

Yep - and Galt hit it on the head. He campaigned on it - people wanted it - now they get it. Now if people really DON'T want it -then Congress needs to give them a more representative voice. But you see - people have for too long asked for and demanded to "get" things and programs from the gov't so it's real tough for them to change or for the pols to actually see that.

CkG

Right, it's not pandering for votes unless a democrat does it. Republicans are merely delivering what the people want. Yup.


It's not pandering for votes unless a democrat does it. Republicans are merely delivering what the people want.

That is an awesome sig DM :D