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dual xeon or fx-53

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im building my new rig (first time) and i either wanna get a (2x) dual xeon 3.06 with the Asus pc-dl or the fx-53. im gonna use it for all the regualar stuff (surfing, dwloading, games). Im gonna get the x800 pro or the 6800 ultra, not sure which one.
 
What's the cost difference? And why would you go with XEONs and not Opterons?

For the graphics cards you want, you should be going with the FX-53. It's too pricey IMO though. I like the 3500+ much better.
 
what software are you getting this for? not all are not optimized for SMT, so i'm willing to bet a dual processor machine will be wasted for your use.
 
xeons suck major, get opterons if your goin for dual cpus. fx53 is fast enough but i'd wait for some more socket 939 (more upgradablity) . 2 cpus work best for high-end servers and braggers.
 
I was running a dual p3 system (1.4ghz on the Iwill DVD266u-RN board) with a gig of memory, and I can tell you that even though I didn't use many apps that were designed for dual procs, it was great to be able to rip an mp3 or movie at the same time I was playing a game or surfin the net with music playing. If all you are going to do is normal gameing stuff though, I would go AMD... The xeons would be a waste, unless you want to give them to me 😉. If you did go dual xeon route, go for the 800mhz bus board, and then you have some security for awhile.
 
Why the hell would you get a dual cpu system for "regular" stuff as you put it. For games a single P4 3.0C would be faster than dual 3.06 XENONs. As would ANY athlon 64.
If you are just doing "normal stuff", like games, websurfing/downloading, ect, just get an Athlon 64 or a fast P4C.
 
Originally posted by: Anubis
a dual opteron sys woudl be faster and cheaper then xenons, d
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not to mention that when 64bit software is widespread it will have an even greater lead. i long for a 64bit dual opteron linux setup

*swoon*
 
Originally posted by: AWhackWhiteBoy
Originally posted by: Anubis
a dual opteron sys woudl be faster and cheaper then xenons, d
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not to mention that when 64bit software is widespread it will have an even greater lead. i long for a 64bit dual opteron linux setup

*swoon*
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as do we all
 
3ghz xeons plus another 3ghz xeon equals to 3ghz xeon smart one... the only benefit you get from the 2nd cpu is multitasking capabilities, whcih means u can run much more apps with no slowdowns and etc.
 
You really need to learn about how SMP works. Because in the world of SMP, 1+1 does not equal 2 so to speak. Or that is, you will not double your performance, and hardly any advantage in the original poster's case.

Go with a single FX or Operton if you must have the "fastest". Actually I'd go operton, as AMDs dual core cpus are said to be socket 940.
 
Originally posted by: oralpain
Why the hell would you get a dual cpu system for "regular" stuff as you put it. For games a single P4 3.0C would be faster than dual 3.06 XENONs. As would ANY athlon 64.
If you are just doing "normal stuff", like games, websurfing/downloading, ect, just get an Athlon 64 or a fast P4C.
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What this one says: Dual Xeon might sound fast, but SMP isn't what you want to play games, and Xeons are designed for running as servers, the ability to be validated, ECC ram, large caches to improve database performance, and all sorts of things that just aren't of value to you. They also run on a slow shared memory bus which cripples their performance in memory intensive tasks (like gaming).

An FX-53 will beat eveything available in games, and is only matched by 3.4ghz P4 in pretty much everything else.
 
Seems like you are looking at a money no object type setup. I would suggest getting something like a 3500+ (socket939) and a socket939 mobo. I know Asus makes one. That gives you more life and a better outlook for upgrades.
-doug
 
Screw the price of the second xeon.. get the FX53, and get a prometeia sub zero cooling system for the price of a xeon 3.06, and OC the FX-53 to FX60!!! It'll be as fast as a 5GHz Xeon!
 
Get the FX53. Your applications will not benefit from a dual system. If you were doing content creation such as animation, graphics or video, the story might be different. It would also depend on the apps, even then.

A little myth busting here... Opterons are not really cheaper than Xeons at the desktop level in the 2.4-3.06 GHz range. When you factor in the mobo, like for like Xeons can be cheaper. If you got 2.4 M0 Xeons, a PC-DL mobo, and did some mods (involves solder and removing a pin or two 😉 ), you can get to about 3.4-3.5GHz.

Examples - a 244 is about $355 and 246s are in the $400 range. Tyan has finally come down to about $230 on the K8W dual.

When you get to the server level where you are using the MP Xeons, then Opterons do get cheaper (sometimes, lots cheaper). Once you get past dual processors, Opteron also starts spanking butt with the bandwidth provided by Hyper-Transport.

As for quad processors, XP Pro supports 1-2 processors. You need W2K or W2K3 Server if you want to run more processors. Add another $600 to the price 😉
 
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