Dual core Vs. Single core for gaming

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imported_michaelpatrick33

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Originally posted by: cornholio2
Originally posted by: hippotautamus
This thread is too fun to read to let die. I have never seen someone post as many asshatly posts as newmenu.



I agree. Let's keep this thread alive and kicking.:beer:


I'll start

newmenu, you're anti AMD rants are as intelligent as your age is equivalent to your IQ.
I think you are the editor for Intel Inside magazine and in a case of processor penis envy you had to lash out at dualcore (i.e. longer) AMD's out of a sense of inadequacy. So stick that in your Intel pipe.

The preceding was an attempt (probably feeble) at mocking humour and in no way reflects the actual or perceived feelings of the poster. In fact the poster states that the post may or may not reflect facts depending on the facts. This message will self destruct in five minutes.

MMMM the pipe is fine and well
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WAIT! The walls, "Yes Mr. Wall?" implant a virus in newmenu's celeron?" Corrupt his hard-drive? Yes, Mr. Wall? MMM pipe is fine and well ... ... Where was I, oh yes! Mr. Wall what is his IP address ... ... ... MMMM I am a cracker and a white boy too. DOODAH, DOOODAH. Hippykyheh.
 

cornholio2

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Originally posted by: newmenu
My wife is a highly accredited nurse, if anyone was curoius abouthe the nurse Icon, I love her very much and am very proud of her and her success in the medical field.


:confused: We don't care if your wife is a nurse? Let's talk about your post and not your nurse.

 

imported_michaelpatrick33

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Originally posted by: cornholio2
Originally posted by: newmenu
My wife is a highly accredited nurse, if anyone was curoius abouthe the nurse Icon, I love her very much and am very proud of her and her success in the medical field.


:confused: We don't care if your wife is a nurse? Let's talk about your post and not your nurse.

His wife is a nurse matters to us how?
By knowing the percodan he is taking is why is posts are so foul!

I rhyme
 

imported_michaelpatrick33

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Originally posted by: hippotautamus
Fair is foul and foul is fair,
newmenu likely has greasy hair

Oh my Macbethian friend How I ponder

Life's but a walking shadow; a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing. -

A better description of newmenu and his celeron cannot be said. Thank-you Shakespeare and thank you pipe
 

imported_michaelpatrick33

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... With all appliances and means to boot,
Deny it to a king? Then, happy low, lie down!
Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown

(I especially like the appliance and boot part, how apropo (King Henry IV Act III Scene 1)

Edit, changed a 0 to the proper ) at the end of apropo
 

rise

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Originally posted by: newmenu
anyways. if banned I could just as easily sign up under a different name with a different email adderss from a different console......

we'll know you by your "ati in sli benchmarks?" threads, lol

how did i miss this thread :p

 

imported_michaelpatrick33

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Originally posted by: hippotautamus
Henry V, not IV. lol. Less shakespeare, more spam

Wrong! Look it up my Shakespearian critic LOL. Go to the siloquy of King Henry IV (formerly Bollingbrooke in Henry IV Act I Scene III and you will see the direct quote.

Edit. Considering I have the play in front of me I am pretty sure I am right LOL

newmenu: cowardly dog that ye are. Having left the thread tail between thy legs I say to thee, oh owner of Celeron D

The pound of [silicon], which I demand of [you]
Is dearly bought; 'tis mine, and I will have it:
If you deny me, fie upon your law!
There is no force in the decrees of Venice
I stand for judgment: answer, shall I have it!

I especially like the Venice reference myself (chuckles with self-depracating manner and reaches for pipe) I paraphrased a little Shylock

Come newmenu come. Answer thy sour Apple of little Intel. Let ye posts determine thy intellect if ye have the sword of truth sheathed at thy side. I say unto ye, thy wife shou thou needest for my posts shall render thee impotent!

Edited for shylock diatribe LOL
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Duvie
The title of the thread is retarded....misspelled dual and vague as hell....

IN the test they ran simulated 4400+ X2s from opteron 875's...that is only 2.2ghz core so what the fvck did you expect from a chip 200mhz slower...a 4000+ is 2.4ghz...Also you seem to not have either read or comprehended the reviews because they were done on server boards, using ECC ram, cas 3 settings, and possibly 2t timings...Again what would you have expected...


Look beyond the PR rating..It has been bogus for a long time and is conservative in apps the dual cores can add 80% and 0% in other apps....It is not meant to be a comparison in all apps..LOL!!! AMDs are not just gaming computers....The run a whole suite of test to come up with those ratings and in most times they dont get that right.....A3800+ in many games is no worse then 2% to the 4000+ so it doesn't quite deserve its rating then either.

To sum it up I would hope nobody would be stupid enough in this day in age to try tom compare PR ratings of chips in single apps....

Once they are on a desktop meant for the X2. A dual core of equal speed to a single core (current models) should perform identical to if not slightly better due to core revisions.....


My take on it is you need to reread the reviews....

Read this twice:)
 

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To address the original question just get a NF4 939 board and a singel AMD 64 Processor of your choice,then over clock it if ya want and wait till the programs come out to suport the Duel core's more. By then they should be a little cheaper and you can get a AMD 64 3200 for fairly cheap untill then. That way you will be abel to see if it will be worth your money for what you want to do
 

imported_michaelpatrick33

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Originally posted by: wickedone
To address the original question just get a NF4 939 board and a singel AMD 64 Processor of your choice,then over clock it if ya want and wait till the programs come out to suport the Duel core's more. By then they should be a little cheaper and you can get a AMD 64 3200 for fairly cheap untill then. That way you will be abel to see if it will be worth your money for what you want to do


You have to understand, newmenu, the thread author, has edited his posts many, many times and made some, shall we say, interesting remarks and the post degenerated into what you have before you. Some of the responses by posters may seem odd until you realize that newmenu has edited his posts in an attempt to deflect the, shall we say, interesting feedback he received.

After my normal questions placed me in the PMS, I take myself to serious category by a poster, I degenerated along with the other posters into a Shakespeare diatribe or two. (I like Shakespeare)
 

Jeff7181

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Dual core vs. single core for gaming right now, without multithreaded games?

Basically a 2.4 GHz dual core should perform almost identically to a 2.4 GHz single core processor. The only difference being the dual core processor has that extra core to handle things like your anti-virus and anti-spyware and maybe temp monitoring tools or whatever that are running in the taskbar.
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Dual core vs. single core for gaming right now, without multithreaded games?

Basically a 2.4 GHz dual core should perform almost identically to a 2.4 GHz single core processor. The only difference being the dual core processor has that extra core to handle things like your anti-virus and anti-spyware and maybe temp monitoring tools or whatever that are running in the taskbar.



And there lies what was said within the first few post....Once you got threw the smoke and screens of a poorly worded and constantly edited question...Throw in some amd slanderous pharses and we had a flame up....80 post later some turn elizabethan and this thing doesn't die....

 

Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Dual core vs. single core for gaming right now, without multithreaded games?

Basically a 2.4 GHz dual core should perform almost identically to a 2.4 GHz single core processor. The only difference being the dual core processor has that extra core to handle things like your anti-virus and anti-spyware and maybe temp monitoring tools or whatever that are running in the taskbar.



And there lies what was said within the first few post....Once you got threw the smoke and screens of a poorly worded and constantly edited question...Throw in some amd slanderous pharses and we had a flame up....80 post later some turn elizabethan and this thing doesn't die....

I was hoping to get it back on topic since it is a relevant question... dual core processors SHOULD help current games, but only by a tiny bit because all it does is basically give the game a dedicated processor where no clock cycles are wasted on stuff like virus protection and spyware protection and people signing on and off your IM client or new e-mail notifications, etc.
 

newmenu

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it seems to me that, for a gamer, cost effectiveness is right out the window on these dual cores. your paying from $300 - $350+ more for the extra core which would allow you to run extra otherwise unimportant programs, unless. Unless your a hard core multitasker and want to run a bunch of programs, and tasks all while trekin through doom 3 or whatever. Alot of online games dont like firewalls and antivirus software running anyways.
 

newmenu

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dont get me wrong, as soon as the 5200 (2.6 core 1mb L2 cache per core (guessing)) drops under $400 Ill be ording one right away. Just dont see that happening for, what, about 3 years or so.
 

newmenu

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Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33
Originally posted by: hippotautamus
Fair is foul and foul is fair,
newmenu likely has greasy hair

Oh my Macbethian friend How I ponder

Life's but a walking shadow; a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing. -

A better description of newmenu and his celeron cannot be said. Thank-you Shakespeare and thank you pipe

actually Im part italian and do have somewhat greasy hair :)
 

newmenu

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I dont own a celeron though, If your look at the bottom of my posts and read my sig, youll see that the cpu currently on my motherboard is an American Micro-devise made processor Model 4000 with a 2.4ghz core accompanied by a full 1mb of level 2 cache