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Feep

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where did he say hes spending the whole 9K, the componets he's listed are less than that.
 

Pixle

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You should make 2 fast machines, instead of just 1.

The performance jump isn't that big.

If you want to give your money away then I'd say to wait about two months for the fx - 55 and fx - 57 come out in 2005.
 

Chronoshock

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Originally posted by: Pixle
You should make 2 fast machines, instead of just 1.

The performance jump isn't that big.

If you want to give your money away then I'd say to wait about two months for the fx - 55 and fx - 57 come out in 2005.

Yeah it'll be nice to see an fx on 90nm, but the 55 is supposed to be 130 nm so it'll be a pretty long wait for the 57
 

Quasmo

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Custom Workstation/ Tower Servers AMD MP, Opteron, XP, Intel P4, and Xeon $75.00 $75.00
Cases: 100326 - No PS - SilverStone SST-TJ05S Aluminum To $164.00 $164.00
Power Supply: 100766 - PS 600W - Enermax EG701P-VE SFMA Rev 2.0 $184.00 $184.00
Case Fan: None
Motherboards: 110819 - AMD-Opteron - Tyan S2885ANRF 8151 Audio/G $425.00 $425.00
Processors: 120546 - AMD Opteron 250 2.4GHz 1MB 64/32 Bit $814.00 $814.00
2nd Processor: 120546 - AMD Opteron 250 2.4GHz 1MB 64/32 Bit $814.00 $814.00
Thermal Grease: 800018 - Shin-Etsu G675 Thermal Grease (Cools CPU $14.00 $14.00
2nd Thermal Grease: 800018 - Shin-Etsu G675 Thermal Grease (Cools CPU $14.00 $14.00
Heat Sink Fan: 130956 - Thermaltake Venus 7+ for AMD Opteron/64/F $20.00 $20.00
Heat Sink Fan 2: 130956 - Thermaltake Venus 7+ for AMD Opteron/64/F $20.00 $20.00
Memory: 140258 - DDR (400) 3200 REG ECC - 2 GB (2 pcs 1GB) $580.00 $580.00
2nd Memory: 142258 - DDR (400) 3200 REG ECC - 2 GB (2 pcs 1GB) $580.00 $580.00
Hard Drive: 600301 - SCSI - Seagate (ST373453LW) 73.4 GB/15K-R $535.00 $535.00
2nd Hard Drive: 600301 - SCSI - Seagate (ST373453LW) 73.4 GB/15K-R $535.00 $535.00
3rd Hard drive: 600301 - SCSI - Seagate (ST373453LW) 73.4 GB/15K-R $535.00 $535.00
4th Hard drive: 600301 - SCSI - Seagate (ST373453LW) 73.4 GB/15K-R $535.00 $535.00
RAID Setup: 80014 - RAID 5 (Five) $25.00 $25.00
CD/DVD ReWriters: 160010 - DVD-RW - Plextor PX-712A/SW-BL 12x4x16-DV $129.00 $129.00
Floppy Drives: 170108 - Mitsumi 7-in-1 USB Card-Reader/Smart-Medi $35.00 $35.00
Mass Storage & RAID Controllers: 600322 - SCSI - LSI MegaRAID 320 Dual-Channel PCI $545.00 $545.00
Sound: 180328 - Creative Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro 24Bit/5 $218.00 $218.00
Video Card: 190411 - ATI (Sapphire) Radeon X800 XT 256 MB DDR3 $555.00 $555.00
Warranty: 800007 - 1 Year - Parts & Labor - Barebone (No Sof
Hot Rush: None - Standard Order ( ships within 8-13 business
Subtotal for 800002 with your selected options: $7,351.00

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Markfw

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First, you want a total of 4 sticks of memory, to get dual channel. You also need a EPS power supply (don't know if the one linked is) And the case has to be a monster, (didn;t check that out) Other than that, good list Quasmo !!!
 

Quasmo

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Originally posted by: Markfw900
First, you want a total of 4 sticks of memory, to get dual channel. You also need a EPS power supply (don't know if the one linked is) And the case has to be a monster, (didn;t check that out) Other than that, good list Quasmo !!!

Case is E-ATX
 

Viper96720

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Originally posted by: K3v1n
Originally posted by: Viper96720
lol looks like your making a gaming machine. Dual opterons won't be needed if that's the case. Also you got the wrong video card. Kind of hard to use a pci-express card with no pci express slot. Most expensive doesn't always mean the best.
No, it's not only for gaming but also designing, programing and ripping dvd hehe.

Cool then duals would be awesome
 

jose

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"You know, i would think that 9k is a VERY high price for a comp that wont last very long for your purposes. I would just buy a 1200 dollar comp, put the rest in the bank/invest, and then when you need a new comp get another one with the profits you made on your original capitol, im tellin ya mn a thats the way."

Who says a system like that won't last long ??? Your talking dual 64bit processors, scsi raid controller w/ 15K drives & dual pci-e sli video. That system will last as long as he wants it to. Just think he'll be able to put 2 - dual core opterons in it in the future & be able to put dual pci-e 6800gt's now along w/ 15k scsi drives in raid 0 or 5 which ever he prefers.

I have servers that aren't that powerful last 8yrs and still going. That system would be considered "Workstation Class" & is different from the general pc's that most users have..
And more powerful than some entry level servers !!!

K3v1n: No the mobo will be available soon in 1-3 months, but I think it's worth the wait... Check the mobo thread I linked to at 2cpu's site.

Regards,
Jose



 

dpettini

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Getting the best gaming bang for the buck is smarter use of the money. SLI is probably the best recommendation with a MB that has dual PCI express. If you wait for friends at IWILL and Tyan, you will see some dual opteron 16x systems(real 16x, not a 4x with a 16x connector) in the coming months. Games like UT2004 benefit greatly according to Nvidia.

As others have told you, Opterons are designed to stable, and not allow for many of the tweaks that other platforms have. Also, given the nature of a dual graphics with SLI config, it is unclear how much more you would get out of it(BTW, it is nice to have a stable, non-OC'd systems every once in a while...).

While others have also quoted SCSI above, you can also consider doing a RAID 10(2 drives striped with a mirror and stripe set) of SATA-II drives. In particular, you are looking for both drive and controller to do a feature called TCQ(Tagged command queuing). The drive I know handle this well is the Western Digital Raptor 73GB 10K RPM. This drive is virtually as fast as SCSI in this configuration. These drives are also about $200 each, so the x4 array of them will give you a 146GB array with good read and write performance.

The Opteron 250's will set you back alot, so make sure you need it. Also, given that AMD is releasing a Dual CPU on one chip Opteron next year(it has been shown on HP's DL585 already), having a single processor may not be a problem in the long term(so long as it is an opteron(940 pin) slot).

Also, remember that some of the motherboards can use faster DDR2 memory
http://www.corsairmicro.com/corsair/xms2.html


Here is a config I am putting together, I am waiting for the Motherboard to be released from Tyan. The cost of the system below is about 6K, depending on the release price of the motherboard, plus another 1K for a 20" LCD Monitor.

Good luck with your purchase.



Lian Li V2000B Case
Antec Neopower 480 Power Supply
Tyan S2895 Dual PCI Express 16x, IEEE 1394b,USB2.0,Gb Ethernet
2 AMD 250 CPUs
2 Thermalright XP-120 CPU Coolers
2 120mm Globe fans, running at 5v mounted on CPU Cooler
Arctic Silver Ceramique - nonconductive

2 Nvidia 6800GT 256MB PCI Express Graphic boards ? PNY
1 NVidia SLI interconnect

4x512MB DDR2 400 or better RAM Motherboard certified, registered, ECC
4x73GB Western Digital raptor WD740-SD Enterprise 10Krpm
Configured 146GB RAID 10

1 Pioneer DVR-A07XLB DVD Writer ? Dual layer

1 Windows XP Pro
1 Novel Linux 9.1 Pro





Originally posted by: SneakyStuff
I noticed you put a link up for a motherboard with an AGP slot, but linked us to a graphics card which isn't AGP ;) My honest advice to you, if you have that much cash to burn, get a dual opteron motherboard, with dual PCI-EXPRESS X16 slots, and make use on nVidia's SLI technology (which = blazing fast, for a cost of course)

SLI