Dual AMD 64 ?

[K3v1n]

I'm trying to build a computer with 2 AMD Athlon 64 FX-53 chips so I wonder if there is a mother for this?

 

[Bar81]

Yeah, it's called Socket 940 and the CPUs are called Opterons.

 

[Chronoshock]

Yeah, the opteron 250's are equivalent to an fx-53. Buying two will set you back around 1700 though.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Chronoshock
Yeah, the opteron 250's are equivalent to an fx-53. Buying two will set you back around 1700 though.

Yeah...in order to do it cost effectively, you'd need to not go with 53s, and get something like 2x 240s-246s.

 

[K3v1n]

I've sold my old car so I got like $9000 to build a super fast comp. Ccomments, suggestions are welcome. Here is my plan:
2 AMD Opteron Model 250, 1MB L2 Cache chips $845x 2 ( http://www.newegg.com/app/View...=19-103-456&depa=1 )
1 MSI - K8T Master2 FAR - VIA Dual Socket 940 Motherboard with Gigabit LAN, Serial ATA, RAID, AGP 8X/4X, USB 2.0 $342
( http://www.tigerdirect.ca/appl...=1022165&CatId=177 )
2 Corsair TWINX2048RE-3200 2GB Kit DDR400 XMS3200 ECC Registered Memory w/Black Heat Spreader $595x2 (4 GB) ( http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/...p?ProductCode=80097-42 ) Does Corsair produce 2 GB memory in one pack ? I want to get up to 8 GB memory.
1 ASUS ATI RADEON X800 XT Video Card, 256MB DDR, 256-Bit, DVI/VIVO, PCI-Express, Model "EAX800XT/TVD/256-8" -RETAIL $653 ( http://www.newegg.com/app/View...=14-121-517&depa=0 )
2 Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6B300S0 300GB Serial ATA 7200RPM Hard Drive w/16MB Buffer $220x2 ( http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/...jsp?ProductCode=100719 )
1 NEC 16X Double Layer DVD±RW Drive, Silver, Model ND-3500A S W/SW, OEM with software $83 ( http://www.newegg.com/app/View...=27-152-030&depa=1 )
1 SONY Beige 52x32x52 IDE Internal CD-RW Drive, Model CRX230ED, OEM $23 ( http://www.newegg.com/app/view...=27-106-822&DEPA=1 )
1 RAIDMAX Black Aluminum Gaming Case with 420W Power Supply, Model "668WBP" -RETAIL $80 ( http://www.newegg.com/app/View...=11-156-148&depa=1 ) Maybe I need a more powerful PS ???
1 SONY SDM-P234/B 23" Wide Screen Flat Panel LCD - RETAIL $1859 http://www.newegg.com/app/View...=24-006-084&depa=1
1 Logitech THX Certified Z-680 5.1 Speaker 500Watt Silver -RETAIL $225 (http://www.newegg.com/app/View...=36-121-105&depa=1 )

 

[K3v1n]

Is there a guide to OC Dual Opteron 250 ?

 

[K3v1n]

Yeah, the opteron 250's are equivalent to an fx-53. Buying two will set you back around 1700 though

Thats fine, I've just sold my old car so it's not a problem

 

[Mloot]

If you are looking to overclock, then Opterons are really not the route you want to take. AFAIK, the only Opteron board that allows any type of overclocking is the MSI Master2-FAR, and it is very limited because it does not have an AGP or PCI lock. I used to have a 246 dually built upon the MSI board, and I was able to overclock from 2.0 to 2.2ghz, but that's as far as I could go.

Opterons are geared more toward server and workstation applications, where stability is paramount, and anything that might threaten that stability (such as overclocking) is highly frowned upon. As such, there is a lack of decent, overclockable Opteron motherboards.

For the most knowledgeable board regarding duallies and multi-processing, you might want to check out the 2CPU.com forums.

 

[K3v1n]

Thanks for the tip Mloot, I wont try to burn my $1700 by ocing

 

[caz67]

Dual Opterons, very nice..

 

[Viper96720]

lol looks like your making a gaming machine. Dual opterons won't be needed if that's the case. Also you got the wrong video card. Kind of hard to use a pci-express card with no pci express slot. Most expensive doesn't always mean the best.

 

[jose]

Do alot of research before making a major purchase like that. A good source on dual cpu's is www.2cpu.com go to their forums and read alot on what's good and what's not..

Here's a link on an upcomming mobo which you may want to consider..

http://forums.2cpu.com/showthr...ef4&threadid=55855

This will be a dual opteron/ dual pci-e sli mobo, when dual core opterons come out next year you could upgrade later to dual core opterons !! & later add a second 6800gt video card.

Anyway, do alot of research before hand, & good luck.

Also take a good look at the CoolerMaster Stacker case. It has great cooling & space for a dual cpu mobo.

Regards,
Jose

 

[Markfw]

With that kind of money, you might want to go SCSI, in which case your only choice is either the Tyan Thunder K8 (2885) or there is an IWILL board I think. Then go with as many U320 15k SCSI drives and a good caching controller like the LSI 320-2 (or something like that)
In your 64bit PCI-X slots you get about 8x the PCI Express slots (there is only one 16x slot for the video card on the new boards)

 

[K3v1n]

jose: Can u put PCI card into PCI-X slot? I'm knida new to PCI-X, would 6800 run faster in PCI-X than in AGP ?
Markfw900: You have Dual Opteron too? Nice. What's so great about SCSI?

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: K3v1n
jose: Can u put PCI card into PCI-X slot? I'm knida new to PCI-X, would 6800 run faster in PCI-X than in AGP ?
Markfw900: You have Dual Opteron too? Nice. What's so great about SCSI?

PCI-X is different than PCI Express. The Tyan board I have has an APG slot AND PCI-X.

6800's come in PCI Express and AGP.

PCI-X is 8x the regular PCI Express slots, there is only one 61x slot reserved for the video card.

And SCSI is for high end systems, especially servers and multiuser systems. But configured correctly, they scream for single user, they are just VERY exspensive. $800 for the controller, and $500 for each drive, and you would need at least 4 drives to make a fast system (raid 0 for pure speed or 5 for security of your data)

 

[jose]

There are some 64bit/32bit pci-x cards around. No video card goes in the pci-x (64bit pci ) slot. It's either agp or pci-e.. If I were you I'd get a A64/Opteron setup that supported pci-e,
because that's the future of video cards. Also w/ a mobo like the one I linked to , you'd be able to get a 6800gt now, and then later if you wanted , you could add a 2nd 6800gt for a sli configuration.

As for as scsi, simply its the best .. The 15k drives are so fast at everything, I only use the raptors for video editing, and use the 1st 15k for multi os's , 2nd for programs, and the 3rd for scratch space.

Again most users won't have a systems close to what your looking at, but considering you have the money why not get the best...

Regards,
Jose

 

[Blain]

If you've got $$ to burn, just order an Alienware Aurora ALX with the 2GB memory upgrade.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Blain
If you've got $$ to burn, just order an Alienware Aurora ALX with the 2GB memory upgrade.

That may be nice, but the disk subsystem can't touch a U320 raid array on a PCI-X slot ! Or the total processing power of dual Opteron 250's, or the memory speed of dual 250's.

 

[K3v1n]

Originally posted by: Viper96720
lol looks like your making a gaming machine. Dual opterons won't be needed if that's the case. Also you got the wrong video card. Kind of hard to use a pci-express card with no pci express slot. Most expensive doesn't always mean the best.

No, it's not only for gaming but also designing, programing and ripping dvd hehe.

 

[K3v1n]

Mark, u have any suggestions which motherboard, scsi controller I should buy?

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: K3v1n
Mark, u have any suggestions which motherboard, scsi controller I should buy?

Check my post above... Some people like the iwill (Michaeld for one) board. I don't know the model number, but the Tyand and the controller I mentioned above will do the trick.

 

[jose]

Mobo: http://www.watch.impress.co.jp...40911/image/niwd7.html

scsi raid: http://www.lsilogic.com/produc..._adapters/320x128.html

HD's : http://www.maxtor.com/portal/s...amily/Atlas%2015K%20II

Regards,
Jose

 

[Remedy]

No video card goes in the pci-x (64bit pci ) slot.

Parhelia PCI-X based card has been on the market for a few seasons. Just FYI.


Thanks for endorsing links to our forums. We appreciate it.

 

[SneakyStuff]

I noticed you put a link up for a motherboard with an AGP slot, but linked us to a graphics card which isn't AGP My honest advice to you, if you have that much cash to burn, get a dual opteron motherboard, with dual PCI-EXPRESS X16 slots, and make use on nVidia's SLI technology (which = blazing fast, for a cost of course)

SLI

 

[epsilon9090]

You know, i would think that 9k is a VERY high price for a comp that wont last very long for your purposes. I would just buy a 1200 dollar comp, put the rest in the bank/invest, and then when you need a new comp get another one with the profits you made on your original capitol, im tellin ya mn a thats the way.