Dual 12 volt rails not necessary

[watdahel]

So, it's official. Dual 12 volt rail power supplies that have become common these days are really unnecessary. You know what this means, right?... I can still use my $250 watt ps for my new rig. Hurray!

I do have one question for those suckers who have one. How do you differentiate which 12V rail is connected to a particular PC component? Are the plugs labeled 12v1 or 12v2?

 

[John]

A $250 psu or 250w psu?

Dual 12v rails are supposed to be safer, and IIRC it was Intel that was initially pushing for the dual rail standardization. I've never seen any of the plugs labeled. The 4-pin 12v is typically #1 and the rest are #2.

There are dozens of high quality dual rail psu's, and to label their owners as suckers only shows your own ignorance.

 

[foodfightr]

Hoping he means $250 PSU and not 250W.

Must be a nice 250W psu if you decided to keep it and trust your new system with it.

:disgust:

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: erwin1978
So, it's official. Dual 12 volt rail power supplies that have become common these days are really unnecessary. You know what this means, right?... I can still use my $250 watt ps for my new rig. Hurray!

I do have one question for those suckers who have one. How do you differentiate which 12V rail is connected to a particular PC component? Are the plugs labeled 12v1 or 12v2?

What was the purpose of this thread?

 

[Mik3y]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: erwin1978
So, it's official. Dual 12 volt rail power supplies that have become common these days are really unnecessary. You know what this means, right?... I can still use my $250 watt ps for my new rig. Hurray!

I do have one question for those suckers who have one. How do you differentiate which 12V rail is connected to a particular PC component? Are the plugs labeled 12v1 or 12v2?

What was the purpose of this thread?

 

[John]

Flame Bait :Q

 

[imported_Sincity]

Ok. I'll take the bait. Can he run a OC'd 3000+, 1 HD, 1 SB Audigy, 1 7800GT, 3 fans, 1 DVD, 1 DVD-/+ R?

I don't believe it is having the dual rails...but more importantly the amperage available.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: John
A $250 psu or 250w psu?

Dual 12v rails are supposed to be safer, and IIRC it was Intel that was initially pushing for the dual rail standardization. I've never seen any of the plugs labeled. The 4-pin 12v is typically #1 and the rest are #2.

There are dozens of high quality dual rail psu's, and to label their owners as suckers only shows your own ignorance.

Dual rails are not nexessary at all!!
The safety issue is non existant!!
becuase there is no such thing as true dual rails.
What they do is use a single 12v rail going out of the power supply and a splitter to divide the single 12v rail into 2 - 12v rails!
YES- I would agree that to call people using a dual 12v rail PSU suckers is very uncalled for!

getting back to the subject of dual 12v rails.
Why if dual rails are so necessary did such companies as PC Power and Cooling as well as other totally avoid coming out with a dual rail PSU?
Until recently PC Power & Cooling has 3 - 12v rails on there 850watt and 3 on there 1KW PSU...
In fact I believe that Zippy also has no dual 12v rail models...
These are easily the top 2 Industrial PSU makers in the world......
I can run anything you can throw at me including dual video cards with iether of my 2 PC Power & Cooling PSU`s...
My Turbo Cool 510 Deluxe can and has handled dual vidcards...
My Turbo Cool 510 Express/SLI is in my AMD gaming rigg....

So YES-- Intel was pushing the dual rail issue - which they have all of a sudden backed off.
YES-- at one time dual rails was just a gimmicky point of sale....
But there is no reason for anybody to post a thread -- calling the owners of dual rail PSU`s...suckers.....
The bottom line is that everybody who owns a dual rail PSU is happy...its not my PSU so I have no say in whether people are happy or not with there PSU!!

 

[foodfightr]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: John
A $250 psu or 250w psu?

Dual 12v rails are supposed to be safer, and IIRC it was Intel that was initially pushing for the dual rail standardization. I've never seen any of the plugs labeled. The 4-pin 12v is typically #1 and the rest are #2.

There are dozens of high quality dual rail psu's, and to label their owners as suckers only shows your own ignorance.

Dual rails are not nexessary at all!!
The safety issue is non existant!!
becuase there is no such thing as true dual rails.
What they do is use a single 12v rail going out of the power supply and a splitter to divide the single 12v rail into 2 - 12v rails!
YES- I would agree that to call people using a dual 12v rail PSU suckers is very uncalled for!

getting back to the subject of dual 12v rails.
Why if dual rails are so necessary did such companies as PC Power and Cooling as well as other totally avoid coming out with a dual rail PSU?
Until recently PC Power & Cooling has 3 - 12v rails on there 850watt and 3 on there 1KW PSU...
In fact I believe that Zippy also has no dual 12v rail models...
These are easily the top 2 Industrial PSU makers in the world......
I can run anything you can throw at me including dual video cards with iether of my 2 PC Power & Cooling PSU`s...
My Turbo Cool 510 Deluxe can and has handled dual vidcards...
My Turbo Cool 510 Express/SLI is in my AMD gaming rigg....

So YES-- Intel was pushing the dual rail issue - which they have all of a sudden backed off.
YES-- at one time dual rails was just a gimmicky point of sale....
But there is no reason for anybody to post a thread -- calling the owners of dual rail PSU`s...suckers.....
The bottom line is that everybody who owns a dual rail PSU is happy...its not my PSU so I have no say in whether people are happy or not with there PSU!!

Is it just me or is the guy who laid out the big bucks for an intel extreme edition chip agreeing with the guy who uses a 250W PSU? (CPU Comparison)

Haha I'm just playing..... I respect your opinion Jedi.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: foodfightr

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: John
A $250 psu or 250w psu?

Dual 12v rails are supposed to be safer, and IIRC it was Intel that was initially pushing for the dual rail standardization. I've never seen any of the plugs labeled. The 4-pin 12v is typically #1 and the rest are #2.

There are dozens of high quality dual rail psu's, and to label their owners as suckers only shows your own ignorance.

Dual rails are not nexessary at all!!
The safety issue is non existant!!
becuase there is no such thing as true dual rails.
What they do is use a single 12v rail going out of the power supply and a splitter to divide the single 12v rail into 2 - 12v rails!
YES- I would agree that to call people using a dual 12v rail PSU suckers is very uncalled for!

getting back to the subject of dual 12v rails.
Why if dual rails are so necessary did such companies as PC Power and Cooling as well as other totally avoid coming out with a dual rail PSU?
Until recently PC Power & Cooling has 3 - 12v rails on there 850watt and 3 on there 1KW PSU...
In fact I believe that Zippy also has no dual 12v rail models...
These are easily the top 2 Industrial PSU makers in the world......
I can run anything you can throw at me including dual video cards with iether of my 2 PC Power & Cooling PSU`s...
My Turbo Cool 510 Deluxe can and has handled dual vidcards...
My Turbo Cool 510 Express/SLI is in my AMD gaming rigg....

So YES-- Intel was pushing the dual rail issue - which they have all of a sudden backed off.
YES-- at one time dual rails was just a gimmicky point of sale....
But there is no reason for anybody to post a thread -- calling the owners of dual rail PSU`s...suckers.....
The bottom line is that everybody who owns a dual rail PSU is happy...its not my PSU so I have no say in whether people are happy or not with there PSU!!

Is it just me or is the guy who laid out the big bucks for an intel extreme edition chip agreeing with the guy who uses a 250W PSU? (CPU Comparison)

Haha I'm just playing..... I respect your opinion Jedi.

Actually to be honest I really cant agree with anybody who would call somebody els a sucker for purchasinf a PSU with dual rails!!
With that said....
There are alot of issues concerning dual rails....
I have heard all the arguments for or against dual rails...
both sides have there points...but....
if you can believe this...
Both sides could be right.......
Here`s why.....say i ask this question..
Which would you rather have -- dual rails that have say 18 amps on each rail?
Or a single 12v rail that has 36 amps?

depending on your outlook.....it could be apples vs oranges.
yet most High end PSU`s that have a single 12v rail -- 9 times out of 10 can handle anything a dual rail PSU can handle.

These people site a safety issue......such as well with only 1-- 12v line you have the possibility of generating way to much heat.....
yet with dual rails you have no possibility of....
Anyways you get my drift....

I go back to my statement in an earlier post--

Why if dual rails are so necessary did such companies as PC Power and Cooling as well as other totally avoid coming out with a dual rail PSU?
Until recently PC Power & Cooling has 3 - 12v rails on there 850watt and 3 on there 1KW PSU...
In fact I believe that Zippy also has no dual 12v rail models...
These are easily the top 2 Industrial PSU makers in the world......
I can run anything you can throw at me including dual video cards with iether of my 2 PC Power & Cooling PSU`s...
My Turbo Cool 510 Deluxe can and has handled dual vidcards...
My Turbo Cool 510 Express/SLI is in my AMD gaming rigg....

Again...Im not going to call anybody names who uses a dual rail or for that matter uses a generic PSU...
I used a generic PSU for a few years.....until I finally from first hand experience saw the reason why you should get a good quality PSU!!

Always nice to chat with you -- Have a nice week-foodfightr