WTF. I bought my Pio 5080hd and my Toshiba hd-dvd player last year and things were not this complicated. So now that I've bought a new Panny blu ray player, I'm thinking of replacing my onkyo ts-rx702 to conform to the new standards. But really is the sound difference that much greater than regular Dolby Digital?
DTS-HD MA, DD+, DTS-HD HR, TRUE-HD, DTS, DTS-ES, Dolby Digital...
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Depends on your speakers obviously, but yes, there is a noticeable difference between DD/DTS & lossless DD True HD /DTS-MA
kalrith
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Since we're on the subject, would there be a noticeable difference between the old and new formats with the following 5.1 setup:
- Polk R50 (fronts)
Polk CSi25 (center)
Polk R15 (surrounds)
Polk PSW350 (sub)
If there will be a difference, but not a huge one, then I think I'll pocket the difference and put a budget receiver in the office.
OP, I'm not trying to steal your thread, because I think the answer to my question will be relevant to yours as well.
Thanks!
Yeah. I mean, those aren't the best speakers in the world obviously, but they're not bad at all. You'd definitely notice a "fuller" sound, but how much of a difference that is to you and whether its worth spending the extra money is obviously debatable.
There isn't a right or wrong answer here, its just whether or not its worth it to you.
Do you have a Blu-Ray player already? If not, definitely no point in upgrading since that's the only thing that uses the newer audio formats.
There isn't a right or wrong answer here, its just whether or not its worth it to you.
Do you have a Blu-Ray player already? If not, definitely no point in upgrading since that's the only thing that uses the newer audio formats.
kalrith
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I use my PS3 as a Blu-Ray player; however, I don't watch nearly as much Blu-Ray as I do HD channels, so it's probably not worth it for me to spend that much extra just for the HD sound formats on the few BDs I watch. I'm completely satisfied with my receiver and sound system as it is, so I'll probably leave well enough alone.
Thanks guys. This gives me something to start off with. I'm eyeing the RX-V1800 for the receiver but might settle for something else a bit cheaper.
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At under 700 bucks the Onkyo 805 is hard to beat:
http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX...&qid=1216237864&sr=8-4
Not bad. The only thing is that I've heard nightmarish situations dealing with Onkyo support. But that looks pretty good with 3 hdmi inputs.
You probably meant $500. They currently have it for $720. I might just get one of the refurbs instead for a cheaper price.
I'm not really unhappy with it. To tell you the truth, I don't really play movies all that much. But I don't like missing out on what I could have which is my biggest problem. I have a nice tv, a good blu ray player and the speakers. I could just get the receiver and it would be complete but that would mean me shelling out more moola for it.
If I can unload the TX-SR702 that I have for a couple of bills, then I could probably put some more money together and get it.
If I can unload the TX-SR702 that I have for a couple of bills, then I could probably put some more money together and get it.
It sounds better, but not that significant to sell such a good receiver like the one you have. I'm not sure about the Panasonic BD players but my new Samsung 1500 will convert all the new advanced sound codecs to 1.5kps DTS which will sound very good. The advanced codecs are still in their infancy and unless you get a BD player that internally dencodes all the new codecs there are still some growing pains. A lot of users are complaining about sound dropouts when bitstreaming the advanced codecs to their receivers on the new BD players. I would keep the receiver you have and wait.
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I just thought of this. I'm pretty sure that some BD players can decode the new audio formats and pass them to a receiver via several RCA cables. Your receiver has these connections listed under DVD on the back (it also talks about it on page 21 of your user manual). You would basically connect 6 RCA cables from your Blu-Ray player to the back of your receiver: one for each speaker and one for your sub. I'm pretty sure that would give you the new HD formats with your current receiver. I'd be able to do this with my receiver, but unfortunately the PS3 doesn't have the RCA connections on it.
Yeah I know but the blu ray player (Panny DMPBD30) I am getting doesn't have a builtin decoder for the new DTS formats. But nevertheless, I think I'll keep this receiver in accordance to what SKoprowski mentioned and also since I really don't watch movies all that much anyhow.
On second thought maybe I should cancel my order for the Panny player and get the S350 Sony instead. This way I can do the decoding via the player and do what exactly you mentioned above.
For reference this is a good chart showing the audio specs for the models.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=980672
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=980672
kalrith
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If you can wait until this fall, it might be worth it to get the Sony S550.
Actually I just read this post, which states some bad news about the S350:
Actually I just read this post, which states some bad news about the S350:
- July 2008 release, not Q2
Can not internally decode DTS-HD HR, but can bitstream.
Analog Outputs are only 2.0, not 5.1
Everything else appears to be accurate as-is.
Based on the latest information taken from the Sony website (since no one actually owns this model yet): http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...52921665368427
Looks that way.
http://www.engadget.com/photos...hd-frivolities/927672/
I'll check other options as well. The BD50 is also an alternative but thats a bit pricey.
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My Samsung BD-UP5000 can decode DD+ and TrueHD internally and has 7.1 analog outs. It doesn't currently decode DTS-MA but I think it may be added later with a firmware update since the chipset supposedly supports it.
edit: Also the upcoming Samsung BD-P2500 is supposed to support internal decoding of TrueHD and DTS-MA, have a reon video processor and be profile 2.0. The folks over at AVS believe it is actually the BD-UP5000 with HD DVD playback removed.
Because of this they believe that the BD-UP5000 will receive a firmware update in September (around the same time the 2500 is released) bringing it to 2.0 and adding internal DTS-MA decoding. If this is true it is definitely the player to get since you can find it for $400 or less. The BD-P2500 will retail for $700. It also plays HD DVDs if you still have any.
edit: Also the upcoming Samsung BD-P2500 is supposed to support internal decoding of TrueHD and DTS-MA, have a reon video processor and be profile 2.0. The folks over at AVS believe it is actually the BD-UP5000 with HD DVD playback removed.
Because of this they believe that the BD-UP5000 will receive a firmware update in September (around the same time the 2500 is released) bringing it to 2.0 and adding internal DTS-MA decoding. If this is true it is definitely the player to get since you can find it for $400 or less. The BD-P2500 will retail for $700. It also plays HD DVDs if you still have any.
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