Drupal developer asked to leave because he's into Gor+BDSM apparently

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Fern

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I don't think he was vague. He basically gorean philosophy has no place in the Drupal project and that he believes that men and women are created equal. Whether or not Garfield believes they aren't, or his kinks just play off the power transition, is perhaps what is vague.

I don't either. However, I find his remarks contradictory:

What he said:

when a highly-visible community member’s private views become public, controversial, and disruptive for the project, I must consider the impact … all people are created equally. [sic] I cannot in good faith support someone who actively promotes a philosophy that is contrary to this … any association with Larry’s belief system is inconsistent with our project’s goals … I recused myself from the Drupal Association’s decision [to dismiss Garfield from his conference role] … Many have rightfully stated that I haven’t made a clear case for the decision … I did not make the decision based on the information or beliefs conveyed in Larry’s blog post

In the first part of his remarks he seems to make it clear that the guy's "GOR" stuff becoming public is the reason he was fired. He then seems to say otherwise in his last sentence.

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Jeebus, people have become damn weird. You fantacize about some science fiction story, game play really, on your own time and not harming anyone and it gets you fired? It's fantasy people.

If he wasn't fired before the GOR stuff became public, it tells me it wasn't the real problem. I.e., he didn't carry his fantasy role play over into real life. I must now assume that he was fired because of the fear there would be a PC backlash and the firing was done to forestall that.

The whole PC movement seems geared toward fostering acceptance but has been carried to such an extreme that it actually has the opposite effect.

Fern
 
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momeNt

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I don't either. However, I find his remarks contradictory:

What he said:



In the first part of his remarks he seems to make it clear that the guy's "GOR" stuff becoming public is the reason he was fired. He then seems to say otherwise in his last sentence.

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Jeebus, people have become damn weird. You fantacize about some science fiction story, game play really, on your own time and not harming anyone and it gets you fired? It's fantasy people.

If he wasn't fired before the GOR stuff became public, it tells me it wasn't the real problem. I.e., he didn't carry his fantasy role play over into real life. I must now assume that he was fired because of the fear there would be a PC backlash and the firing was done to forestall that.

The whole PC movement seems geared toward fostering acceptance but has been carried to such an extreme that it actually has the opposite effect.

Fern

Wasn't the blog post in question basically him explaining himself AFTER he was outed?

He could have used the outing as an opportunity for inclusion and maybe help explain to people that fantasies in the bedroom can have no bearing on their real life behavior. He could have even provided a sort of character reference for him. Instead he chickened out or cowed to the pressure of whoever was most offended.
 

Fern

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Sorry. I'm not quite sure what you mean. But this is my fault. I used way too many personal pronouns (e.g., "he") instead of the person's name. And If your second paragraph refers to Dries Buytaert, the guy doing the firing, I agree with you.

Fern