drugs and alcohol

[Broohaha]

Originally posted by: Giscardo

Originally posted by: tweakmm One's existance is nothing but chemicals and electrical signals anyway, a few more chemicals just spice things up a bit.

Totally.

 

[shimsham]

because they go great with poker.

 

[isaacmacdonald]

Originally posted by: JoeShmoe85
Why would anyone knowingly use drugs or drink alcohol when they know it is bad for their health (not counting using drugs for medical reasons)? I've heard about the using drugs as an escape from a terrible life and understand it, but why not choose an alternative? It just doesn't make any sense to me, I've never done any drugs (besides medicine XP) and I love life to the fullest. Do drugs really enhance a persons life and make it more enjoyable?

they can. I know lots of successfull people in the 98th income percentile that drink a decent amount and smoke weed with some frequency. I personally love having a couple glasses of scotch after dinner, especially when I have a few people over. Also, there is clinical evidence to suggest that drinking and even using certain drugs like mary jane is perfectly fine (sometimes even beneficial) in moderation.

Cheers-

 

[xSkyDrAx]

Who says that drinking alcohol is bad for your health? In large quantities, yes it is. In small amounts, like one beer a day, it is actually *quite* beneficial.

I believe that's red wine not beer. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[oniq]

I believe with the advent of acid we discovered new way to think and it had to do with piecing together new thoughts of mind. Why is it that people think it's so evil? What is it about it that there is scares people so deeply? Because they are afraid that there is more to reality than they have ever confronted. That there are doors that they're afraid to go in and they don't want us to go in there either because if we go in, there we might learn something that they don't know. And that makes us a little out of their control.

 

[datalink7]

So what is "enhancing" your life?

If it is fun, isn't that enhancing your life?

Sort of like going out to eat. Or am I to assume you always eat ONLY what is good for you.

And you never watch TV.

Or play on the computer.

Or nef on anandtech....

 

[kami]

Well, if by socially acceptable you mean legal... other than that, it's still a hallucinogenic drug.

lol... get off your pedestal. you always storm into these threads with the same nonsense.

i've never hallucinated before while drunk. do you know what hallucination is?

wait til you get to college

 

[johnjohn320]

Originally posted by: kami

Well, if by socially acceptable you mean legal... other than that, it's still a hallucinogenic drug.

lol... get off your pedestal. you always storm into these threads with the same nonsense.

i've never hallucinated before while drunk. do you know what hallucination is?

wait til you get to college

(a) I don't know what you mean by "I always storm in with the same nonsense." I smoke pot and get drunk from time to time, it's not like I'm against it.

(b) Hallucination: Perception of visual, auditory, tactile, olfactory, or gustatory experiences without an external stimulus and with a compelling sense of their reality, usually resulting from a mental disorder or as a response to a drug.

Hallucination does not just mean you see funny colors or talk to plants. If it changes how you perceive things, it's a halluciongen. Pot is defined as a hallucinogenic drug as well (scroll down to the Princeton University defintion), and if you've ever smoked it, you know it doesn't make you see things that aren't there, either.

So obviously you're the one who's confused.

 

[Kipper]

Originally posted by: xSkyDrAx

Who says that drinking alcohol is bad for your health? In large quantities, yes it is. In small amounts, like one beer a day, it is actually *quite* beneficial.

I believe that's red wine not beer. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Both. Beer contains antioxidants. Oh yes, and I drink because it's a social activity and makes things a bit more fun...

 

[kami]

As for hallucination, when you're drunk you are still aware what is going on. I am anyway. It's not really a "high" either...it's actually the opposite in a way (depressant). It doesn't alter your state of mind in the same way. I suppose if you want to spend 20 minutes at dictionary.com making your case, you could prove just about anything...but in common terms I don't consider booze to be a hallucinogenic drug and I don't know anyone who does either (short of the chumps who keep a webster's in their back pocket). 😉

 

[johnjohn320]

Originally posted by: kami
As for hallucination, when you're drunk you are still aware what is going on. I am anyway. It's not really a "high" either...it's actually the opposite in a way (depressant). It doesn't alter your state of mind in the same way. I suppose if you want to spend 20 minutes at dictionary.com making your case, you could prove just about anything...but in common terms I don't consider booze to be a hallucinogenic drug and I don't know anyone who does either (short of the chumps who keep a webster's in their back pocket). 😉

You didn't edit fast enough: I don't understand where you get the notion that I'm anti-drugs and alcohol...i've never made a single statement against them. My first chemical experience was in 8th grade and I've been having fun every so often with them ever since.

As for the second part of your post which you actually left there: I don't care what you consider it to be, that's what it is. Face it, you're wrong. You thought hallucinating meant you saw things that weren't there, a la Acid. I prove to you that hallucination is simply a altering of ones perception, and you get all "yeah ok, whatever chump..." Just because it doesn't have the same effects as LSD doesn't mean it's not a halluciogen.

I don't carry a dictionary around with me, but I do know how to look up words I don't know instead of making up definitions.

 

[hdeck]

alcohol is good for the heart.

 

[kami]

Yes I edited cause I misread/confused it with another post, so? Edit function is there for a reason. Is your F5 key broken yet?

I never said hallucinating was seeing things that weren't there, you put those words in my mouth. But I bet if you asked most people if they hallucinated when they drink they'd say no. That's all I was saying.

Anyway, I am gonna stop here. You can even have the last word, merriam!

 

[johnjohn320]

Originally posted by: kami
Yes I edited cause I misread/confused it with another post, so? Edit function is there for a reason. Is your F5 key broken yet?

I never said hallucinating was seeing things that weren't there, you put those words in my mouth. But I bet if you asked most people if they hallucinated when they drink they'd say no. That's all I was saying.

Anyway, I am gonna stop here. You can even have the last word, merriam!

You're back-pedaling, Kami. 😉 I understand what you're saying. But when I state something which I'm sure you agree by now is fact, you told me to "get off my pedestal" and "stop coming in here with all the same nonsense." Obviously it wasn't nonsense.

So whatever, walk away, that's cool. You came at me with some pretty brash remarks and accusations, I proved you wrong and all of a sudden it's like "jeez, relax kid, just drop it." lol. Nobody knows when to admit they were mistaken anymore...

Have a nice day.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

More like why NOT use drugs? What have you got to gain by not using drugs and alcohol, besides being able to post threads like this?

 

[loup garou]

drugs and alcohol

Yes, please!

 

[dartworth]

don't knock it till you try it😉

 

[Glitchny]

two words for ya

Its Fun

 

[konichiwa]

I suppose you don't drink caffeine or sugar or fat either, because that harms your health too. And do you drive a car? It's the easiest way to die.

Alcohol and drugs make people feel good, and allow people to let loose a little bit. In moderation I don't think there's a problem with either. I know quite a few people who drink and do drugs on a regular basis and are not homeless, jobless drunks/druggies.

 

[Giscardo]

Originally posted by: johnjohn320

Originally posted by: kami

Well, if by socially acceptable you mean legal... other than that, it's still a hallucinogenic drug.

lol... get off your pedestal. you always storm into these threads with the same nonsense.

i've never hallucinated before while drunk. do you know what hallucination is?

wait til you get to college

(a) I don't know what you mean by "I always storm in with the same nonsense." I smoke pot and get drunk from time to time, it's not like I'm against it.

(b) Hallucination: Perception of visual, auditory, tactile, olfactory, or gustatory experiences without an external stimulus and with a compelling sense of their reality, usually resulting from a mental disorder or as a response to a drug.

Hallucination does not just mean you see funny colors or talk to plants. If it changes how you perceive things, it's a halluciongen. Pot is defined as a hallucinogenic drug as well (scroll down to the Princeton University defintion), and if you've ever smoked it, you know it doesn't make you see things that aren't there, either.

So obviously you're the one who's confused.

It seems to me you haven't smoked enough pot? I don't think you'll actually see people who aren't there or anything as drastic as people saying the patterns on the wallpaper come to life while on acid, but it supposedly hallucinogenic if you consume enough pot.

The first time I smoked pot I did it too much and I tried to play chess, everyone in the room looked like cartoons to me. It was weird. I even knew at the time that they weren't cartoons, but I couldn't help it, my brain was sort of processing my sight as cartoon. AND I lost at chess.

 

[johnjohn320]

Originally posted by: Giscardo

Originally posted by: johnjohn320

Originally posted by: kami

Well, if by socially acceptable you mean legal... other than that, it's still a hallucinogenic drug.

lol... get off your pedestal. you always storm into these threads with the same nonsense.

i've never hallucinated before while drunk. do you know what hallucination is?

wait til you get to college

(a) I don't know what you mean by "I always storm in with the same nonsense." I smoke pot and get drunk from time to time, it's not like I'm against it.

(b) Hallucination: Perception of visual, auditory, tactile, olfactory, or gustatory experiences without an external stimulus and with a compelling sense of their reality, usually resulting from a mental disorder or as a response to a drug.

Hallucination does not just mean you see funny colors or talk to plants. If it changes how you perceive things, it's a halluciongen. Pot is defined as a hallucinogenic drug as well (scroll down to the Princeton University defintion), and if you've ever smoked it, you know it doesn't make you see things that aren't there, either.

So obviously you're the one who's confused.

It seems to me you haven't smoked enough pot? I don't think you'll actually see people who aren't there or anything as drastic as people saying the patterns on the wallpaper come to life while on acid, but it supposedly hallucinogenic if you consume enough pot.

The first time I smoked pot I did it too much and I tried to play chess, everyone in the room looked like cartoons to me. It was weird. I even knew at the time that they weren't cartoons, but I couldn't help it, my brain was sort of processing my sight as cartoon. AND I lost at chess.

I dunno, man, I've smoked a lot of pot, but never seen "cartoon" people as a result of it. I've watched a lot of cartoons while on it, though. 😉

Anyway, my point directed at Kami was that hallucinogens != "tripping" or "visuals." It doesn't have to be a hard drug to be halluciogenic. To hallucinate means that you perceive things differently, as one would while on alcohol.

 

[johnjohn320]

Originally posted by: Giscardo

Originally posted by: johnjohn320

Originally posted by: kami

Well, if by socially acceptable you mean legal... other than that, it's still a hallucinogenic drug.

lol... get off your pedestal. you always storm into these threads with the same nonsense.

i've never hallucinated before while drunk. do you know what hallucination is?

wait til you get to college

(a) I don't know what you mean by "I always storm in with the same nonsense." I smoke pot and get drunk from time to time, it's not like I'm against it.

(b) Hallucination: Perception of visual, auditory, tactile, olfactory, or gustatory experiences without an external stimulus and with a compelling sense of their reality, usually resulting from a mental disorder or as a response to a drug.

Hallucination does not just mean you see funny colors or talk to plants. If it changes how you perceive things, it's a halluciongen. Pot is defined as a hallucinogenic drug as well (scroll down to the Princeton University defintion), and if you've ever smoked it, you know it doesn't make you see things that aren't there, either.

So obviously you're the one who's confused.

It seems to me you haven't smoked enough pot? I don't think you'll actually see people who aren't there or anything as drastic as people saying the patterns on the wallpaper come to life while on acid, but it supposedly hallucinogenic if you consume enough pot.

The first time I smoked pot I did it too much and I tried to play chess, everyone in the room looked like cartoons to me. It was weird. I even knew at the time that they weren't cartoons, but I couldn't help it, my brain was sort of processing my sight as cartoon. AND I lost at chess.

I dunno, man, I've smoked a lot of pot, but never seen "cartoon" people as a result of it. I've watched a lot of cartoons while on it, though. 😉

Anyway, my point directed at Kami was that hallucinogens != "tripping" or "visuals." It doesn't have to be a hard drug to be halluciogenic. To hallucinate means that you perceive things differently, as one would while on alcohol.

 

[flyfish]

It's all just mental masturbation. 😉

 

[caitlion]

well obviously anyone who would ever even CONSIDER using drugs or alcohol is a fvcking moron...


....either that or you are.

its fun. they give you a good feeling. what more reason do you need? if you dont want to do it, then fine. but dont try to preach about how bad it is and try to make people who do choose to seem like bad people for it.

 

[UCSDHappyAsian]

"drug and alcohol" are "air and water" to human beings... dats for sure yo