Drug war has gotten to a new level of nutso

[michal1980]

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/03/alfred-anaya/

guy works as an audio installer. On the side installs hidden car compartments. Never see's drugs, never touches drugs. gets 24 years without parole because some of his clients were drug smugglers.

That's just fucked up.

 

[Genx87]

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/03/alfred-anaya/

guy works as an audio installer. On the side installs hidden car compartments. Never see's drugs, never touches drugs. gets 24 years without parole because some of his clients were drug smugglers.

That's just fucked up.

Putting him away for his own good. Think of the children.

 

[gevorg]

Never see's drugs, never touches drugs.

That's not enough. If he knew what those compartments are being used for, police has the full right to arrest him. Question is, do they have evidence and what is the burden of proof in this case?

 

[Pens1566]

He saw 800k in one of them. Only an idiot wouldn't think it was drug related. He should have refused then and there. He didn't. The only travesty here is that the smugglers themselves were sentenced to less.

 

[michal1980]

He saw 800k in one of them. Only an idiot wouldn't think it was drug related. He should have refused then and there. He didn't. The only travesty here is that the smugglers themselves were sentenced to less.

24 years for seeing a large stack of cash?

ohhh this guy is soo bad.

people get far far far less for KILLING someone.

 

[Pens1566]

24 years for seeing a large stack of cash?

ohhh this guy is soo bad.

people get far far far less for KILLING someone.

I didn't see anything that suggested that it was outside the guidelines for sentencing on his conviction.

 

[michal1980]

I didn't see anything that suggested that it was outside the guidelines for sentencing on his conviction.

so do you have your own brain?

or whatever the government says you just take?


Like I said, this is pretty fucked up for building a box.

 

[Juror No. 8]

He is being made an example. The cops made him an offer he couldn't refuse ("be our informant, or else!"), and he refused anyway.

This is a no-no in the eyes of your average police goon. Saying "no" to the cops, or refusing to cooperate with them in their corrupt schemes, falls into the category known as, "contempt of cop", and the police consider it an offense only one step below killing cops outright.

This guy is probably lucky the cops didn't simply murder him on the spot, plant a gun on him, and call it "self defense".

 

[Smoblikat]

Putting him away for his own good. Think of the children.

Well, what the gubment needs to do is BAN HIGH CAPACITY CAR COMPARTMENTS, especially the ones with a collapsible stock or a bayonet mount..............

This will definitely save all the children, everyone knows that cars with large storage areas kill kids by the (no pun intended) truck load.

 

[Smoblikat]

I didn't see anything that suggested that it was outside the guidelines for sentencing on his conviction.

What exactly did he do wrong? I was unaware geometry was illegal...........but with a liberal as president I guess it shouldnt be that much of a surprise.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Yep, this is horseshit. No other way to look at it. This is "freedom" we have come to expect from our protector "the government".

 

[Genx87]

Well, what the gubment needs to do is BAN HIGH CAPACITY CAR COMPARTMENTS, especially the ones with a collapsible stock or a bayonet mount..............

This will definitely save all the children, everyone knows that cars with large storage areas kill kids by the (no pun intended) truck load.

I agree 110%.

 

[NoStateofMind]

What exactly did he do wrong? I was unaware geometry was illegal...........but with a liberal as president I guess it shouldnt be that much of a surprise.

These days even thinking something might be a crime....is a crime. You can't make an "honest" living without being caged. And to try and live as an "undesirable" you end up in a cage. At some point we have to wake up and see the damned shackles on our feet.

 

[unokitty]

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/03/alfred-anaya/

guy works as an audio installer. On the side installs hidden car compartments. Never see's drugs, never touches drugs. gets 24 years without parole because some of his clients were drug smugglers.

That's just fucked up.

Another notch in another prosecutor’s gun.

How much more taxpayer money are they going to spend before they realize that the war on drugs was lost a long time ago?

Uno

 

[Rifter]

Building a box is not illegal, will never hold up in court.

 

[Juror No. 8]

How much more taxpayer money are they going to spend before they realize that the war on drugs was lost a long time ago?

Why do you assume that their goal is to win the war on (some) drugs? What, specifically, makes you believe such a thing?

 

[cubby1223]

Do I believe he deserves 24 years in prison? No.

Do I believe the statement in the first post that this guy "never see's drugs, never touches drugs"? Abso-fuckin'-lutely not.

 

[michal1980]

Building a box is not illegal, will never hold up in court.

guy is in jail for 24 years for doing it.

 

[sze5003]

While he may have seen drugs I think, 24 years is a long time when the actual drug dealers themselves got less time.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Do I believe he deserves 24 years in prison? No.

Do I believe the statement in the first post that this guy "never see's drugs, never touches drugs"? Abso-fuckin'-lutely not.

Doesn't matter what you believe, its what you can prove. Unless you're government that is.

 

[Triumph]

No time to read the full article, but the guy had to know that he'd be building compartments for drug smugglers. I mean how many other people need these kinds of services? I agree the charges are bullshit but he was probably playing with fire.

 

[sze5003]

Some people just have a tough consciousness. They refuse to think that anything bad could happen because technically he should be able to build such compartments if he was doing so in the first place.

I'm surprised the dealers didn't kill him when they realized the second guy transporting stuff got caught. I read the whole article and I think what got him the sentence was that the guy he installed a trap for at first signed something saying the audio installer had nothing to do with it.

Later he recanted it and in court mentioned he asked the builder to make a space big enough to fit 10 kilos and he mentioned the installer asked him what a kilo was and he pointed to a brick on the ground. But anaya says his house and area around it contained no bricks.

Looks like he should have cooperated since he was not directly involved in drugs.

 

[Exterous]

No time to read the full article, but the guy had to know that he'd be building compartments for drug smugglers. I mean how many other people need these kinds of services? I agree the charges are bullshit but he was probably playing with fire.

What if he only had suspicions and never actually saw anything illegal? Are we now to the point that if individuals don't refuse service based on suspicions they are liable for criminal consequences?

 

[Pens1566]

so do you have your own brain?

or whatever the government says you just take?


Like I said, this is pretty fucked up for building a box.

Don't like the laws, change them. Until then, I'd suggest you don't accuse others of being brainless.

What exactly did he do wrong? I was unaware geometry was illegal...........but with a liberal as president I guess it shouldnt be that much of a surprise.

Read the article. All answers are contained within.

 

[child of wonder]

The "War on Drugs" is just a paradox like Prohibition was.

Outlaw something whose use creates victimless crimes thus creating a massive black market run by criminals who in turn hurt people.

Time for the War on Drugs to end. Make them all legal, let drug companies patent them and mass produce, and tax them then place an age restriction on them just like cigarettes and alcohol.

Suddenly all these retarded gangs would disappear, crime would go down, and drug use would drop.