Richardson is by far the best VP, if he'd take it.
35 years of REAL experiance, a lot involving foreign policy. Hes a moderate that would temper the farther left Obama. I dont care if some people say its "too brown."
Richardson is by far the best VP, if he'd take it.
35 years of REAL experiance, a lot involving foreign policy. Hes a moderate that would temper the farther left Obama. I dont care if some people say its "too brown."
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Obama is the next Bill Clinton, someone who can balance the budget again and bring peace around the globe. Hillary is only famous for being Bill's wife which I resent.
The GOP Congress Balanced the budget... There was a time, back in the 1990s were GOP House members lead by Newt were fiscally conservative. It all went to hell when Hastert and Delay took over leadership of the House Republicans.
It was the GOP that played hardball with Clinton, not vice versa. Who pushed for balanced budgets? Newt and the Republicans, not the Dems. Budgets come from the House, not the President. The GOP controlled the house, they are the ones that brought forth the balanced budget legislation. They failed to get their balanced budget amendment though.
Under Hastert, Delay and Bush the GOP has been a far different creature than when the party was lead by Newt.
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Optimism for her being back, or pessimism, I think is unfounded. How many presidents have lost a campaign and come back to win? This is partly why Edwards is a stupid man, because he never understood he had no chance. He was a douchy putz running as VP and is a douchey putz now.
If Swillary exits, it's going to be mighty hard for Obama not to win the nomination.
If Swillary exits, it's going to be mighty hard for Obama not to win the nomination.
If Obama win the nomination, the era of the Clintons controlling the Democratic Party are over. Their grip has slowly loosened over the years, but this will be the moment they lose all influence over the party.
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. And WRONG.
The Budget Enforcement Act of 1990 (Pub.L. 101-508) included provisions requiring that legislation increasing spending or decreasing revenues be on a pay-as-you-go basis, or PAY-GO.
The Act set forth sequestration procedures to enforce pay-as-you-go requirements and deficit targets.
The Act authorized the President to invoke sequestration within 15 calendar days after the Congress ends a session to eliminate a budget-year breach within any category.
And most importantly - FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 475 - OMNIBUS BUDGET RECONCILIATION ACT OF 1990
Democrats Yeas-217 Nays-40
Republicans -- Yeas-10 Nays-163
Newt was a crook and a liar.
More revisionist history....
The Gramm-Rudman Act in the 1980s was the first aimed at balancing the budget. It was primarily supported by the GOP. The Act you call, altered this act by adding PayGo and doing away with fixed budget targets. The Budget wasnt balanced until 1998 after the passage of Balanced Budget Act of 1997. The vote?
Ayes
199 Republicans
44 Democrats
Nays
137 Democrats
8 Republicans.
You now join Pabs as a Legend in Your Own Mind.
You are just plain wrong, bud.
and btw ...
Wreckem sez: ""Budgets come from the House, not the President.""
WRONG
The President of the United States submits a proposed budget each fiscal year which is subsequently reviewed, revised and voted on by the Congress.
The President may then sign the budget into law or veto the measure
Do some research... You make yourself sound like a moron. You might want to start with the US Constitution. And then look at how much and how often Congress rips up the Presidents recommendations. Even when the GOP controlled the Congress, the still didnt follow Bush's budget recommendations, except on the war.
Might want to scroll up I added to my post. Care to refute it?
What are you - like 12 years old? Do they not teach civics in your school system?
You deny the factual record of the Budget Act of 1990 which provided for PAYGO and federal debt reduction.
You deny the overwhelming Democratic majority in approving PAYGO.
You deny that the President submits a proposed budget each year.
Yes - You are a Legend In Your Own Mind.
The president submits recommendations. Recommendations Congress typically ignores.
And again, the act of 1990 merely altered the Gramm-Rudman act which also called for federal debt reduction and set fixed budgets. The act of 1990 didnt balance the budget.
The Balanced Budget Act of 1997 balanced the budget. Look it up.
Everyone wants to credit the Dems and Clinton for the economy in the 1990s.
Besides the Dot.com boom, two acts by the GOP
The Balanced Budget Act of 1997 and the Tax Payers Relief Act of 1997 both contributed to the Economy. Both were overwhelmingly supported and sponsered by the GOP.
As for resorting to calling me 12 years old because I said you make yourself sound like a morn. You must not know much about politics. If me calling you a moron irks you, you couldnt last in politics. You should really read up on how much name calling goes and overall viciousness goes on in Congress. Just look at the man responsible for the Dems control of Congress, the DCCC Chairman for the '06 election Rahm Emanuel. Hes one of the most vicious and prolific name callers on Capital Hill.
I only see two ways Hillary exits:
1. Runs out of money - Not likely, even if she has a serious fundraising dry spell.
2. Doesn't get the nomination - I'd still give her a 50% chance of getting the Democratic nomination, even if she loses every caucus.
1. Runs out of money - Not likely, even if she has a serious fundraising dry spell.
2. Doesn't get the nomination - I'd still give her a 50% chance of getting the Democratic nomination, even if she loses every caucus.
No. She will bow out instead of being completely embarrassed. After Feb 5 Obama will be the last person standing on the Democratic side.
Originally posted by: loki8481
Gore did everything he could do to run away from Bill in 2000.
and, in fairness, he won the election anyways.
Sure he won the election as the 1st runner up which is also the first loser!
If there is one thing I remember about Bill is his neglect of our national security that's why we are in this state of terror now!
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Are you ignorant of the fact that the budgets Clinton proposed prior to the Republicans taking over had absolutely NO deficit reduction?
Even after the Republicans took over congress Bill tried pushing a budget that included 5 years of nearly $200 billion deficits.
I have posted the actual budgets on here before and can do so again if need be.
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