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Drop-kick me, Jesus, through the goalposts of life.

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surfsatwerk said:
When I played football first thing I was taught is that it's the team who makes plays. Obviously this kid doesn't need his team because it's him and god making all the plays.
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How do you not know the kid wasn't saying "Thanks for the great teammates and coaches that allowed this touchdown to be scored"?
 
TheVrolok said:
Look, the OP posted a thread he could turn into an anti-religion thread because he knew religious people would post in it. He thinly veiled it as a "Fox News sucks" thread, but it's pretty evident the intent. The OP is by far one of the most fervent anti-religion posters on ATOT, are we honestly supposed to believe that this thread has little to do with religion, or that it doesn't really bother him very much? The OP is attention whoring just about as much as the kid in the game.
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Who's to say though that the people posting anti-OP are even religous? To me, I would think of them more as "intelligent thinking individuals who don't pass ignorant, knee-jerk judgments"
 
does anyone else here actually watch football? because dropping to a knee is about the least attention drawing thing you can do while scoring a touchdown. and i thought the NFL was the no fun league
 
I think the NFL has a rule that bans players from going to the ground (either kneeling, sitting, or lying down) as part of a touchdown celebration. They don't ban you from pointing though. Or dancing either, for that matter.

I like celebrations myself and it's a shame that everyone except the CFL seems to be cracking down on them, but the flag was not totally out of line at least as far as keeping things consistent at different levels of the game.
 
Homerboy said:
Who's to say though that the people posting anti-OP are even religous? To me, I would think of them more as "intelligent thinking individuals who don't pass ignorant, knee-jerk judgments"
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I'm not saying they are, I think the OP is attention whoring, and I'm an atheist.
 
ElFenix said:
does anyone else here actually watch football? because dropping to a knee is about the least attention drawing thing you can do while scoring a touchdown. and i thought the NFL was the no fun league
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Oh I watch it. Probalby too much if you ask my wife.
I ALMOST thought about brining it into this discussion, but feared it would cloud the waters too much.
 
Cerpin Taxt said:
I'm sorry, but any football player that drops to his knees to ostensibly "praise God" after scoring a touchdown is doing nothing more than hamming it up for an audience because they have the audience's attention. They are glorifying themselves, not any purportedly existing deity. I didn't mean that the kid's response afterwards was any kind of AW-ing.
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Just shut the fuck up.

Do you REALLY think those exact thoughts are going through a HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT'S head?

I realize being atheist is cool on the interwebs and everything, but don't you think this is a bit much?
 
Homerboy said:
Yet, if his belief is to kneel while in prayer, what he did was not show-boating etc. He was just doing as he believes and has been raised/taught.

If it broke a rule, it broke a rule though. Throw the flag! I had money on the visiting team!!!! 🙂
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What if my belief is to do situps for 10 minutes, to thank god for granting me abdominal muscles? Stop treading on my precious beliefs!

God's all knowing, right? Just think good things about him. I think he would get the message, without needing to seem like an attention-whoring deity.🙂
 
Jeff7 said:
What if my belief is to do situps for 10 minutes, to thank god for granting me abdominal muscles? Stop treading on my precious beliefs!

God's all knowing, right? Just think good things about him. I think he would get the message, without needing to seem like an attention-whoring deity.🙂
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Did you read anything I posted at all?
I said NUMEROUS TIMES that if it broke the rules, it broke the rules and that he shouldn't be able to do it. Which he kid has already agreed too in fact.

The point being is he THOUGHT it would be Ok. If you (honestly) THOUGHT AND BELIEVED doing situps for 10mins would be OK, then got flagged for it, I'd take the same stance.
 
I wonder if the kid said he was pointing/praying to FSM if there'd be such a "uproar".

Hell it never really does specify he was parying to The God of Israel or of Jesus. Hell he coulda been thanking Zeus or Ra.
 
I think endzone celebrations should be encouraged. I liked watching all the antics that players would come up with. It made things interesting.
 
Homerboy said:
To quote (again):

2.) WTF does any god care about whether this kid scores a touchdown or not? There's children starving to death in Africa, but God is too busy watching a 2A highschool football game guiding this kid to the endzone?

I think it's clear you went into reading that article with an preconcieved attitude and an agenda (conscious or subconscious) and got out of it what you wanted to.
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It is unclear what your point is here. Nothing about what I said earlier conflicts with what you quoted me saying.
 
gimmewhitecastles said:
hmmmmm. your first point did not mention "Fox News journalist" at all. it was an actual personal attack on the kid.
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I made commentary on what the article said, which is really what the author of that article said, and I immediately followed that with "Fuck Fox," so I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

...nice backtracking there.
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Nice failure to read for comprehension.

...and if you sincerely are not outraged at all then you're certainly using the wrong choice of words to convey it.
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I am outraged, but not for the reasons you think, because apparently you cannot reed inglish gud.

But you just keep on keepin' on, chief.
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Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
 
slsmnaz said:
no you exist because your parents didn't realize the free clinic hands out condoms
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NO U! :colbert:


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yeah it's a penalty but your outrage is beyond idiotic
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Do you think that the kid was penalized because his display was religious?

Do you think the author insinuated that the kid's display was penalized because it was religious?

Do you have a problem with a "journalist" manufacuring outrage by insinuating discrimination that didn't really happen?
 
The stupidity level of the anti-religion crowd around here is astounding. You don't have to believe anything if you don't like, but your vitriol and belligerent attitude towards anyone who does hold beliefs give away your incompetence, ineptness and overall insecurity.
 
Cerpin Taxt said:
Do you think that the kid was penalized because his display was religious?

Do you think the author insinuated that the kid's display was penalized because it was religious?

Do you have a problem with a "journalist" manufacuring outrage by insinuating discrimination that didn't really happen?
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To be honest, I don't see a whole lot of outcry in that article. It really just seems like the author wrote an article outlining an issue that the public at large (and especially Fox News' viewers/readers) would make with a zero tolerance call. I don't think it the author himself was really making any statement on religion.
 
Homerboy said:
How do you not know the kid wasn't saying "Thanks for the great teammates and coaches that allowed this touchdown to be scored"?
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It doesn't matter. The kid wasn't penalized for who he was thanking. The kid was penalized for making a self-centered display.

Of course, the "journalist" wants you to believe that the kid was penalized because his display was religious, and you fell for it.

Congrats.
 
TheVrolok said:
To be honest, I don't see a whole lot of outcry in that article. It really just seems like the author wrote an article outlining an issue that the public at large (and especially Fox News' viewers/readers) would make with a zero tolerance call. I don't think it the author himself was really making any statement on religion.
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The opening line of the article is "Are Hail Maries banned too?"

If you don't think the author is trying to imply that the kid was being penalized specifically because his display is religious, you're an idiot.
 
Cerpin Taxt said:
The opening line of the article is "Are Hail Maries banned too?"

If you don't think the author is trying to imply that the kid was being penalized specifically because his display is religious, you're an idiot.
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The opening line is for sensationalism of course, but it's journalism, especially Fox News journalism.

I'm simply not an idiot, and my critical reading skills are just fine (as any standardized test has shown if you need proof?). The article is describing a flag thrown because of a zero tolerance rule. That's it. If anything (and most likely) the author disagrees with the zero tolerance rule not having some sort of exception for this small (and incredibly common) religious celebration. Simply though, the author is disagreeing with a zero tolerance rule and not claiming that ref threw a flag because he didn't like the religious player, which is what you are implying if you state that he was penalized simply because it was a religious display.
 
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