*droool* '05 Mustang..

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Lifer
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I LOVE the retro gauges, and the multiple lighting is pretty neat. Although I've heard that the dashboard lights don't change with the gauge panels.
 
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Lifer
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Went & looked at some 05's yesterday with a coworker who's trading up to an 05 GT. Didn't drive one 'cause the dealer neglected to tell us the only GT they had was an auto (coworker has told this salesman many times he only wants a stick).

Interior was a little disappointing, though it did not have the upgrade package. Sounds damn good though.

I was also surprised at how similar they looked to the current generation in person... The pictures seem to bring out the differences a lot more, in person while they look different it seems like a more logical progression/relationship.

Dealer wanted $3K over sticker, absolutely asinine. Sorry buddy, it's a Ford. Nice car, but it's a Ford. There'll be another 500K of them, yours is nothing special.

Viper GTS
 
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sniperruff

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Went & looked at some 05's yesterday with a coworker who's trading up to an 05 GT. Didn't drive one 'cause the dealer neglected to tell us the only GT they had was an auto (coworker has told this salesman many times he only wants a stick).

Interior was a little disappointing, though it did not have the upgrade package. Sounds damn good though.

I was also surprised at how similar they looked to the current generation in person... The pictures seem to bring out the differences a lot more, in person while they look different it seems like a more logical progression/relationship.

Dealer wanted $3K over sticker, absolutely asinine. Sorry buddy, it's a Ford. Nice car, but it's a Ford. There'll be another 500K of them, yours is nothing special.

Viper GTS
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i wonder how much it would cost ford to have padded plastics and pieces of aluminum in the interior though...

it looks ok IMO, but it's just that they are joining the retro bandwagon a bit too late.

and yea $3k over sticker is ridiculous... what do you think it is, a mini cooper?
 
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IGBT

Lifer
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...never understood the attraction to them things..they look like reskinned pintos..
 
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MasterAndCommander

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Originally posted by: IGBT
...never understood the attraction to them things..they look like reskinned pintos..
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This is why
Blue = '05 Mustang GT, Red = '04 Mustang Mach1

Mind you this is Rear Wheel HP, so if you factor 15% losses through the tranny, that's nearly 330 HP at the flywheel!

Let's see an import do that for under $30K :beer:
 
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Viper GTS

Lifer
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Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
Originally posted by: IGBT
...never understood the attraction to them things..they look like reskinned pintos..
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This is why
Blue = '05 Mustang GT, Red = '04 Mustang Mach1

Mind you this is Rear Wheel HP, so if you factor 15% losses through the tranny, that's nearly 320 HP at the flywheel!

Let's see an import do that for under $30K :beer:
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Neon SRT-4 does pretty damn well for $21K.

Not an import obviously, but it's scary to see nearly 250 at the wheels from a $21K car.

Viper GTS
 
MasterAndCommander

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS


Neon SRT-4 does pretty damn well for $21K.

Not an import obviously, but it's scary to see nearly 250 at the wheels from a $21K car.

Viper GTS
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Wasnt' the SRT dropped for '05 and replaced with the R/T version?
Unless they were severly under rated, my specs only show 230HP at the flywheel.

But still a fast car for an MSRP of $21k.
 
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Viper GTS

Lifer
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Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
Originally posted by: Viper GTS


Neon SRT-4 does pretty damn well for $21K.

Not an import obviously, but it's scary to see nearly 250 at the wheels from a $21K car.

Viper GTS
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Wasnt' the SRT dropped for '05 and replaced with the R/T version?
Unless they were severly under rated, my specs only show 230HP at the flywheel.

But still a fast car for an MSRP of $21k.
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SRT-4 is still listed on Dodge's page, $21,195.

And yes, they are severely under rated. IIRC bone stock they were dynoing nearly 250 at the wheels.

Viper GTS
 
MasterAndCommander

MasterAndCommander

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander

Wasnt' the SRT dropped for '05 and replaced with the R/T version?
Unless they were severly under rated, my specs only show 230HP at the flywheel.

But still a fast car for an MSRP of $21k.
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SRT-4 is still listed on Dodge's page, $21,195.

And yes, they are severely under rated. IIRC bone stock they were dynoing nearly 250 at the wheels.

Viper GTS
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Ha ha! Schweet! :D :D :D

Gotta love Ford and Dodge for underating both the '05 GT and the SRT-4 and giving you more HP than advertised. Must be a ploy to try to keep the insurance costs down :thumbsup:

Unlike some imports that barely reach their HP ratings...anyone remember the controversy with the RX-7 or was it the RX-8?
 
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Yossarian

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Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: KLin
wow that interior looks very shoddy and cheap.
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it's a ford.
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nevertheless, it does look better than previous year's interiors.
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I don't agree. I own a '99, and I sat in new one at the dealership the other day. I felt like I was surrounded by walls of plastic. The console area on the right is pretty high. It just screamed cheap. I was going to upgrade, but now I don't know if I will because the interior blows.
 
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Zee

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2003 ford looks a lot better then this new-old retro model. and that's not really saying much about the 2003 either.
 
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BigJ

Lifer
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Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander

Wasnt' the SRT dropped for '05 and replaced with the R/T version?
Unless they were severly under rated, my specs only show 230HP at the flywheel.

But still a fast car for an MSRP of $21k.
Click to expand...

SRT-4 is still listed on Dodge's page, $21,195.

And yes, they are severely under rated. IIRC bone stock they were dynoing nearly 250 at the wheels.

Viper GTS
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Ha ha! Schweet! :D :D :D

Gotta love Ford and Dodge for underating both the '05 GT and the SRT-4 and giving you more HP than advertised. Must be a ploy to try to keep the insurance costs down :thumbsup:

Unlike some imports that barely reach their HP ratings...anyone remember the controversy with the RX-7 or was it the RX-8?
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Yep it was the RX-8. I think it was what, 13HP under ratings? Around there.
 
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zCypher

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I think they've done well on the new 05 restyle!! I love the retro look and the guages too. I don't know if the interior will be good though. I remember seeing some 03-04 GTs and the interior seemed extremely cheap to me.
 
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Descartes

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I saw one on the road the other day, and it looked absolutely horrible. I actually liked the concept, and I liked the cars they had at the shows; unfortunately, the production car looks like a plastic POS.

imo.
 
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