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DROOL: ASUS P4B266 @ COMDEX (i845-B)

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Lifer
Quoting Anand:

Although we won't be able to provide you with benchmarks for another few weeks, we have been talking to motherboard manufacturers about their thoughts on the chipset. Most of them agree that it not only outperforms VIA's P4X266 but also SiS' 645 chipset, even when paired with DDR333 SDRAM. As you'll remember from our i845 Motherboard Roundup, the chipset does support both DDR200 and DDR266 SDRAM. Although motherboards based on the solution will undoubtedly be more expensive than their P4X266 or SiS 645 based counterparts, most motherboard manufacturers agree that the stability and quality of the platforms is vastly superior to what they've seen with the 3rd party chipsets.

AT @ COMDEX, Day 1

Edit: RELEASE THE HOUNDS, INTEL! GIMME NORTHWOOD!

 
I'll reserve further judgement on Northwood+845-B until I see real benchy's.

Same here.

Although this does sound very tempting. However, as usual, it all just depends on how much money I'll have left to burn. If a 2.2GHz Northwood is anywhere near over $600, I might as well go Athlon XP 2000+ with a dual capable ASUS MPX board.

However, I do not believe that the i845 with DDR266 beats the SiS 645 with DDR266, and especially not with DDR333.
 


<< However, I do not believe that the i845 with DDR266 beats the SiS 645 with DDR266, and especially not with DDR333. >>

I hear ya AGod. I guess like I said we'll have to see. I would be suprised to see that 845-B beats 645+DDR333, but it's not impossible considerin' Intel's history with high performance memory controllers. I've been looking forward to Northwood all along too but, considering the lead that an XP 1900+ has over a 2GHz Williamette, I am doubting Northwood 2.2 would be able to beat an XP 2000+. Again we'll wait and see.
 
Yeah, Hopefully we can start seeing some benchmarks on some of this northwood related stuff soon. I'm planning on going intel this time on my next upgrade but that all depends on price. According to the inquirer(who really isnt a reliable source) the Northwood 2ghz will debut at 410 while the 2.2ghz northwood will debut at 610 both dropping about 100 bucks by january 27th. Link is here.May wait till the end of january to upgrade unless the northwood benchmarks are better than expected. We'll have to wait and see.
 
I think it'll be faster than SiS 645. The i845 is an excellent chipset and the only thing holding it back is the SDRAM it's paired with. Unless Intel does something dumb (usually those dumb things are in favor of Rambus...), it should be the best P4 platform.



But the problem for me is the price. 2ghz or more Northwood + i845-B will cost a lot, and I'd rather put my money on a nice 760MPX board with dual Athlon XP/MP.
 


<< just cannot see spending $500 on a CPU >>

True, I prolly wouldn't anyway buy a Northwood if it's that much. I would like to know if it can take the Athlon Xp
 
I would like to know if it can take the Athlon Xp

Don't you mean the Thoroughbred Athlon XP. .13 Athlons will be out in 2-3 months after Northwood, which is really going to be tuff to compete with me thinks.

Btw, has everyone seen the Thoroughbred's tiny core?
 
New Core:

Great for lower-cost production.. the new die is about 40% smaller than an AthlonXP (approximately 80 sq mm versus 128sq mm).

Bad for cooling.... The wattage per surface area remains very close to Athlon XP levels... The smaller contact surface will also put more emphasis on good-quality heatsinks.



mike
 


<< This platform has speed, quality, stability just like the i845 but at an affordable price.



440BX stability >>



LOL! The day a VIA chipset is as stable as an Intel one, is the day my head puffs up and explodes.
 

"LOL! The day a VIA chipset is as stable as an Intel one, is the day my head puffs up and explodes. "


HansXP: So if you want a big head, buy Intel. Figuratively you already have a big head... 🙂
 


<< "LOL! The day a VIA chipset is as stable as an Intel one, is the day my head puffs up and explodes. "


HansXP: So if you want a big head, buy Intel. Figuratively you already have a big head... 🙂 >>



That didn't make much sense...but whatever.
 


<< Don't you mean the Thoroughbred Athlon XP. .13 Athlons will be out in 2-3 months after Northwood, which is really going to be tuff to compete with me thinks. >>

Yea I agree, I'm more curious to see if the inital Northwood's (2.2 prolly) cand beat or even stay on par with a Palomino XP 2000+.

<< Btw, has everyone seen the Thoroughbred's tiny core? >>

Yea I did. It's cool, but I am curious as toi why the power supply chips are back on top of the CPU rather on the bottom.
 
The last time I bought myself a main rig, I didn't look at the cost that much... I spent over 300DM more than I had to, but I went with really good stuff that has lasted me almost 2 years up until now and have not regretted it.

If the i845 DDR turns out to be the "next BX" then that is what I will get. I see my freinds and sometimes myself running into small unnerving problems with VIA AMD mainboards that I really do not want to upgrade my Asus P2B-F system to a newer AMD system. I want my machine to be dependable and I need it to be so stable that it can run for one whole Week at full load rendering 3D-Max animations.

But if the Benchmarks say YEAH and the 845 is what it is hyped up to be then I will sink a few hundred Marks (or euros) more into the machine, since I need stability and dependability. I will gladly spend more money for that, it worked extremely well the last time I did tha 2 years ago.
 


<< stability and quality of the platforms is vastly superior to what they've seen with the 3rd party chipsets >>

Music to mine ears! If Northwoods are "cheap" relatively quickly after release, that may well be my new platform. If not, well there's always the new horsey chips from AMD.

What are the odds the first P4 @ .13u will be under $500?
 
Jellybaby I'd say pretty high if Intel does a 2ghz northwood. The intel 2ghz is around 390 now and that should drop some over the next 2 months. The inquirer said the 2ghz northwood will debut at 420 dollars then drop to 360 or so around jan 27th. But this is definatly not a reliable source. The prices look to be ok,just have to see what kind of performance boost it will get first.
 
<< "LOL! The day a VIA chipset is as stable as an Intel one, is the day my head puffs up and explodes. "


HansXP: So if you want a big head, buy Intel. Figuratively you already have a big head...



That didn't make much sense...but whatever. >>



Sorry Hans, I assumed that because you can write english you would be able to understand it.😕


 


<< << "LOL! The day a VIA chipset is as stable as an Intel one, is the day my head puffs up and explodes. "


HansXP: So if you want a big head, buy Intel. Figuratively you already have a big head...



That didn't make much sense...but whatever. >>



Sorry Hans, I assumed that because you can write english you would be able to understand it.😕 >>



And I assumed that because you can write in English, you know what you're writing.
 
<< << "LOL! The day a VIA chipset is as stable as an Intel one, is the day my head puffs up and explodes. "


HansXP: So if you want a big head, buy Intel. Figuratively you already have a big head...



That didn't make much sense...but whatever. >>



Sorry Hans, I assumed that because you can write english you would be able to understand it. >>



And I assumed that because you can write in English, you know what you're writing..>>


What I said was slightly poetic. It's written colloquially, in colloquial terms? Hello? Anybody home?. Maybe one day you'll figure it out, or at least be able to decipher english. 😱
 
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