Droid X and Droid 2 overclocked to 2Ghz, laugh at G2

Bateluer

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http://www.droid-life.com/2010/10/22/droid-x-and-2-clocked-at-2-0ghz-both-laugh-at-g2/

Thought all that T-Mobile G2 overclocking business was neat? Well, we’ll just call it cute in comparison to what our buddies Matt4542 and Joe just pulled on their Droid X and 2 devices. How does 2.0GHz sound? You impressed? Matt4542, part of Team DeFuse, is working hard at making this stable and seems to believe that it’s possible. Can you imagine your Droid family member dominating at speeds like this? See it for yourself running on Fission and the D2 after the break.

Doesn't sound like its quite stable though. Impressive none the less.
 

QueBert

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But how does it run? My D1 is OC'ed to 1.2 and stable, but it's still very sluggish for a lot of apps I run. How the fuck going from 600-1.2 not make it butter smooth is beyond me.
 

dguy6789

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But how does it run? My D1 is OC'ed to 1.2 and stable, but it's still very sluggish for a lot of apps I run. How the fuck going from 600-1.2 not make it butter smooth is beyond me.

Just means that the problem is in software and not hardware. There's plenty of poorly coded PC games from before 2005 that run poorly on today's highest end machines.
 

WelshBloke

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Thats pretty amazing, I'm not sure how happy I'd be having that in my trouser pocket though. :eek:
 

rudeguy

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pretty freaking sweet!

Are we going to need aftermarket coolers for our phones soon?
 

MrX8503

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But how does it run? My D1 is OC'ed to 1.2 and stable, but it's still very sluggish for a lot of apps I run. How the fuck going from 600-1.2 not make it butter smooth is beyond me.

You need a dual core cpu or gpu acceleration for that.
 

phoenix79

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But how does it run? My D1 is OC'ed to 1.2 and stable, but it's still very sluggish for a lot of apps I run. How the fuck going from 600-1.2 not make it butter smooth is beyond me.
Some of the G2 overclockers were noticing that once they pushed the phone past a certain point their quadrant and linpack scores started going down.
 

zerocool84

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But how does it run? My D1 is OC'ed to 1.2 and stable, but it's still very sluggish for a lot of apps I run. How the fuck going from 600-1.2 not make it butter smooth is beyond me.

If it gets sluggish when you have a lot of stuff open, that's definitely a RAM issue. It doesn't matter if you clock it super high, low RAM is going to make it sluggish when running multiple things.
 

zerocool84

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Some of the G2 overclockers were noticing that once they pushed the phone past a certain point their quadrant and linpack scores started going down.

Any CPU or GPU that you push too far get to a certain point where it actually hurts it.
 
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But how does it run? My D1 is OC'ed to 1.2 and stable, but it's still very sluggish for a lot of apps I run. How the fuck going from 600-1.2 not make it butter smooth is beyond me.

You and I share a lot of similarities with Android experiences, but I have to admit that at 1.1ghz (I've never gone higher), my Milestone is pretty smooth. Launcher Pro still slows down a bit, but if you manage your memory properly by setting Minfree above 50mb, you should be pretty smooth. Not iPhone 4 smooth, but damn good enough for the amount of widgets you could potentially throw in there.

I do admit some basic tasks like opening SMS apps and the dialer or clall log are still retardedly slow, but at least the phone is fine.

As for someone saying how you need dual core or GPU acceleration to do these things buttery smooth, I ask why the iPhone 3GS can do things just fine at 600mhz. People laugh at the G2 or other phones that come out sub 1ghz, but is the answer to everything just RAW power? Maybe you can optimize your OS a little better so we don't need PC-type power to do basic phone stuff. Additionally, doesn't the D1 have the same GPU as the DX and D2? So technically it is GPU accelerated and if anything the NExus One is behind an overclocked D1. So really, the 1.2ghz D1 is fast enough. You shouldn't need an i7 to run Android smoothly IMO, and this is what it's turning into. So for people who laugh at Symbian for having 600mhz phones, you should think again when they can run 63 apps simultaneously in true multitasking fashion.
 
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You and I share a lot of similarities with Android experiences, but I have to admit that at 1.1ghz (I've never gone higher), my Milestone is pretty smooth. Launcher Pro still slows down a bit, but if you manage your memory properly by setting Minfree above 50mb, you should be pretty smooth. Not iPhone 4 smooth, but damn good enough for the amount of widgets you could potentially throw in there.

I do admit some basic tasks like opening SMS apps and the dialer or clall log are still retardedly slow, but at least the phone is fine.

As for someone saying how you need dual core or GPU acceleration to do these things buttery smooth, I ask why the iPhone 3GS can do things just fine at 600mhz. People laugh at the G2 or other phones that come out sub 1ghz, but is the answer to everything just RAW power? Maybe you can optimize your OS a little better so we don't need PC-type power to do basic phone stuff. Additionally, doesn't the D1 have the same GPU as the DX and D2? So technically it is GPU accelerated and if anything the NExus One is behind an overclocked D1. So really, the 1.2ghz D1 is fast enough. You shouldn't need an i7 to run Android smoothly IMO, and this is what it's turning into. So for people who laugh at Symbian for having 600mhz phones, you should think again when they can run 63 apps simultaneously in true multitasking fashion.

Optimize OS and OS that is supposed to run on essentially every single hardware configuration possible with different specs and architectures don't exactly go well together.
 
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Optimize OS and OS that is supposed to run on essentially every single hardware configuration possible with different specs and architectures don't exactly go well together.

So HTC has been making Android devices since... the beginning of whenever. They have all been based on the Qualcomm CPUs. Here we are now and even the Nexus One isn't crisp smooth. It takes HTC to optimize the OS and get a launcher (Sense) that can run smoothly. The Desire Z's bootup time was not because of Android itself but because of all the tweaking HTC did to make it decent.

So you're making the excuse that fragmentation is an issue, but then so many people say fragmentation is not an issue. Well now it's an issue? Shrug. And honestly is it that big of an issue? It's all ARM architecture in the end right? Sure it's somewhat different, but did PCs struggle so much having to deal with Intel, AMD, Cyrix chips? I don't think so.

I like how we can overclock these CPUs, but I think we're making clock speed to be too much of an issue and mainly this is because Android can't handle itself well enough. No one really made a huge issue about the iPhone's clock speeds or Symbian phones or other stuff. People just cared about a smooth UI that can run apps without slowing to a crawl.
 

MrX8503

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You and I share a lot of similarities with Android experiences, but I have to admit that at 1.1ghz (I've never gone higher), my Milestone is pretty smooth. Launcher Pro still slows down a bit, but if you manage your memory properly by setting Minfree above 50mb, you should be pretty smooth. Not iPhone 4 smooth, but damn good enough for the amount of widgets you could potentially throw in there.

I do admit some basic tasks like opening SMS apps and the dialer or clall log are still retardedly slow, but at least the phone is fine.

As for someone saying how you need dual core or GPU acceleration to do these things buttery smooth, I ask why the iPhone 3GS can do things just fine at 600mhz. People laugh at the G2 or other phones that come out sub 1ghz, but is the answer to everything just RAW power? Maybe you can optimize your OS a little better so we don't need PC-type power to do basic phone stuff. Additionally, doesn't the D1 have the same GPU as the DX and D2? So technically it is GPU accelerated and if anything the NExus One is behind an overclocked D1. So really, the 1.2ghz D1 is fast enough. You shouldn't need an i7 to run Android smoothly IMO, and this is what it's turning into. So for people who laugh at Symbian for having 600mhz phones, you should think again when they can run 63 apps simultaneously in true multitasking fashion.

The 3GS is smooth because iOS incorporates GPU acceleration. Froyo does not offer this. Check out WP7, it incorporates GPU acceleration on a pitiful Adreno GPU, but yet its UI is buttery smooth. This is the power of utilizing the GPU.

I don't think the D1 has the same GPU as the DX/D2. I believe the DX/D2 has a better GPU, but just because it has a high end GPU, doesn't mean that it has GPU acceleration. This capability has to be implemented by the OS.

Android will not and will never be as smooth as an OS that uses GPU acceleration (iOS and WP7). You can clock your CPU as high as you want. For a smooth OS, you may have to wait for Gingerbread.