Droid Razr Maxx HD vs GS3

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ponyo

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His point is that more efficient use of software can reduce the need for a larger battery making for a thinner, lighter device (or giving more use/standby in the same size) and also taking less time to charge.

I don't think he cares about the minimal costs of energy use.

I don't think Android is ever going to be more efficient than iOS given Apple controls both hardware and software design. If it takes bigger battery for Android to be competitive with the battery life, so be it. I don't mind bigger batteries in these newer phones. I welcome it. What I really dislike is the sealed battery trend.
 

shortylickens

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If the Maxx was a gigantic, thick phone I could agree with him, but it's not and that's what makes it a very compelling device. I don't care what level of tech is being used, if it gives me better performance then it's better, simple as that.

Yeah, and the RAZR M is the same size as the iphone 5 WITH a bigger battery. Its not like I'm making sacrifices, not like before.

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lothar

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No such guarantee in the cell phone world. Things move too fast.
Even when apple promises it they cause problems.
There is guarantee by getting a Nexus.
It will get Android updates for at least 2 years directly from Google.
 

Obsoleet

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I don't think Android is ever going to be more efficient than iOS given Apple controls both hardware and software design. If it takes bigger battery for Android to be competitive with the battery life, so be it. I don't mind bigger batteries in these newer phones. I welcome it. What I really dislike is the sealed battery trend.

I agree it's hard to believe sealed batteries are really necessary. In Apple's case I see the point: to restrict the user at all possible avenues.
For the Maxx phones I don't see why the back couldn't be designed to snap off.

I'm really liking how Samsung has been going the last few years, and since they are the iPhone of Android world I'm excited to jump on board.
 

Red Storm

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Why would you possibly want to downgrade from a Galaxy S3 to a Droid RAZR Maxx? :colbert:

Going from the S3 to a Maxx HD would be an upgrade for me: battery life and UI (soft buttons over hardware). Not to mention that out of the two, I think Moto's skin is much better than Touchwiz.
 

Vdubchaos

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I'm kind of stuck here.

My work phone is due for upgrade on 18th....day MaxxHD gets released.

On top of it, Verizon just released Black S3

Decisions decisions

This is so important to me cause I use my phone about once a day for a phone call........:p:cool:

OK fine, my kids play with it a lot when I get a new one....for about 2 weeks before they don't give a shit anymore.

I think I'm still gonna go with S3.....Samsung has been good to me. And small differences here and there are beyond irrelevant to me.
 

bearxor

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Going from the S3 to a Maxx HD would be an upgrade for me: battery life and UI (soft buttons over hardware). Not to mention that out of the two, I think Moto's skin is much better than Touchwiz.

I think he misunderstood because you didn't have the 'HD' in your post.
 

Obsoleet

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The MaxxHD can't be considered an upgrade when it matches 5 month old hardware in the GS3.. that said it does win on battery size, it remains to be seen how much it wins on battery life (not that you can't carry 5 batteries with the GS3 and have 10,500mAh of bAtTeRy PoWaaAA!
 

VashHT

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Well if you're choosing between the razr maxx hd and the gs3 it doesn't really matter how old the gs3 is because it still has the same specs. Personally I would go for the moto phone because I've always found their hardware to be far superior to Samsung phones and now Moto seems to be turning around their problems with software.
 

lothar

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Well if you're choosing between the razr maxx hd and the gs3 it doesn't really matter how old the gs3 is because it still has the same specs. Personally I would go for the moto phone because I've always found their hardware to be far superior to Samsung phones and now Moto seems to be turning around their problems with software.
What evidence do you have of this?
 

VashHT

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What evidence do you have of this?

Just from reviews really, everyone says the newer versions of their skin are much lighter and closer to stock android and they promise pretty fast updates of their newest phones. The razr m JB leaked already which is a good sign so hopefully that means it's close to releasing as they promised.
 

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I agree it's hard to believe sealed batteries are really necessary. In Apple's case I see the point: to restrict the user at all possible avenues.
For the Maxx phones I don't see why the back couldn't be designed to snap off.

I'm really liking how Samsung has been going the last few years, and since they are the iPhone of Android world I'm excited to jump on board.

I'm of the theory that Apple isn't "evil" about their products, they just value some things over others.

I have not seen evidence that there are a tremendous number of people who actually buy multiple batteries for their phones and constantly keep them charged for them to actually be useful. I'd love to see evidence to the contrary.
 

ponyo

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I'm of the theory that Apple isn't "evil" about their products, they just value some things over others.

I have not seen evidence that there are a tremendous number of people who actually buy multiple batteries for their phones and constantly keep them charged for them to actually be useful. I'd love to see evidence to the contrary.

Most people do not use multiple batteries. I don't use my spare battery 90% of the time. But it's that 10% of the time when you need it or want it that it really pays for itself and makes you glad you have it. It's like I don't care about working GPS on my phone 90% of the time since I don't use the feature most of the time. But the times I do use it and need it, I'm sure glad to have it. It's the same with spare or multiple batteries. I was at the beach this weekend and my Galaxy Nexus and my wife's iPhone 4S both ran out of power at similar time. She had to shut off her phone while I simply swapped the battery and I had 100% power again and continued going. That kind of liberating feeling is something you can't get with sealed battery phone. Instant 100% full power. As for keeping the spare batteries charged, it's really simple with external battery charger.
 

Red Storm

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Well this thread is about the Maxx HD. :p

I'll have to wait until the Note 2 and the HTC Inc X (or whatever it's called) come out, which will hopefully remove the "newest device" price premium from the Maxx HD.
 

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I'm of the theory that Apple isn't "evil" about their products, they just value some things over others.

I have not seen evidence that there are a tremendous number of people who actually buy multiple batteries for their phones and constantly keep them charged for them to actually be useful. I'd love to see evidence to the contrary.

It's not a matter of how many do. It's a matter of having choice.



I don't do it, but I'm considering getting a thin rubber case with a spot for a spare battery once the GS3 arrives. Gives it a little protection and if I need it, it's there. I highly doubt I would though. The GS3 isn't known to be a poorly optimized pile like most Android phones.

It's worth noting, given Samsung has 2100mAh, and a more competent organization in general.. you can expect they're going to get every ounce of juice out of it.

Moto on the other hand sticks in a 3000+mAh battery and moves onto the new model.
I just don't know what to think about Motorola anymore, and I was unaffected by their Atrix and related model scandals.

Most people do not use multiple batteries. I don't use my spare battery 90% of the time. But it's that 10% of the time when you need it or want it that it really pays for itself and makes you glad you have it. It's like I don't care about working GPS on my phone 90% of the time since I don't use the feature most of the time. But the times I do use it and need it, I'm sure glad to have it. It's the same with spare or multiple batteries. I was at the beach this weekend and my Galaxy Nexus and my wife's iPhone 4S both ran out of power at similar time. She had to shut off her phone while I simply swapped the battery and I had 100% power again and continued going. That kind of liberating feeling is something you can't get with sealed battery phone. Instant 100% full power. As for keeping the spare batteries charged, it's really simple with external battery charger.

Do you have a dock or accessories to recommend for a GS3?
I can't wait to get mine.. the phone is friggin magnificent. I waited for the iPhone5 and we went into BB to compare them side by side... the GS3 makes the iPhone look downright pathetic. I have a very hard time believing anyone would choose the iPhone unless they were already in the ecosystem, which makes sense and I understand.
 

bearxor

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I was at the beach this weekend and my Galaxy Nexus and my wife's iPhone 4S both ran out of power at similar time. She had to shut off her phone while I simply swapped the battery and I had 100% power again and continued going. That kind of liberating feeling is something you can't get with sealed battery phone. Instant 100% full power. As for keeping the spare batteries charged, it's really simple with external battery charger.

Honestly, and some of this is going to sound like an attack, I think, but it's just my observation from your short story, if you were better prepared, there's no reason at all your wife's battery should have died. Just because the iPhone doesn't have an easily replaceable battery, doesn't mean the battery draining is an unsolvable problem. You just either didn't think about it or didn't care to think about it. As opposed to the GNex, where you cared enough to order a spare battery, an external battery charger, and kept the presence of mind to charge the second battery at some point. To me, it just shows that you weren't even concerned about your wife's device to even give a second thought as to "how do I make sure it's still working late in the day when we're on a trip."

Battery cases, battery chargers, power paks, there's tons of options out there for people who have iPhones but need longer battery life.
 

lothar

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Live in a 3rd world country where they don't have access to electricity 24/7, and you will understand the benefits of removable batteries.