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Driving/traffic question - Who is at fault

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TheUnk

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You are stopped and waiting to turn right on a busy street. Watching left until their is no oncoming traffic and then make your turn. Boom head on collision with a car who was overtaking.

This section of the road has lines indicating it's ok to pass, but shouldn't you have to account for all traffic before passing?

This happened to me, but without a crash. I had enough time and room to drive off the road to avoid the cop (no lights) who was passing. He just gave me a dirty look and went on his way.
 
So a car was passing another car at an intersection? I don't think that is legal here. What kind of signage is involved would really help? Stop/Yield/Light?
 
TheUnk said:
You are stopped and waiting to turn right on a busy street. Watching left until their is no oncoming traffic and then make your turn. Boom head on collision with a car who was overtaking.

This section of the road has lines indicating it's ok to pass, but shouldn't you have to account for all traffic before passing?
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You are at fault. You have to account for all traffic before entering the road.
 
TheUnk said:
You are stopped and waiting to turn right on a busy street. Watching left until their is no oncoming traffic and then make your turn. Boom head on collision with a car who was overtaking.

This section of the road has lines indicating it's ok to pass, but shouldn't you have to account for all traffic before passing?

This happened to me, but without a crash. I had enough time and room to drive off the road to avoid the cop (no lights) who was passing. He just gave me a dirty look and went on his way.
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Maybe he did account for all traffic - you were sitting a stop sign, where you're supposed to wait until the road is clear, when he began his pass.
 
jlee said:
Maybe he did account for all traffic - you were sitting a stop sign, where you're supposed to wait until the road is clear, when he began his pass.
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I dunno seems kinda sketchy.. What if we both decided it was safe at the same time? I start making my turn, he starts making his pass. Seems like just a bad place to allow passing.
 
TheUnk said:
I dunno seems kinda sketchy.. What if we both decided it was safe at the same time? I start making my turn, he starts making his pass. Seems like just a bad place to allow passing.
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Yep. It's still your responsibility as the one entering the roadway to ensure that it is clear. If that means waiting for traffic to be clear in both directions, then wait.
 
So how can there be head on collision? it will be either a sideways or read end collision right?

is this what happened?
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TheUnk said:
I dunno seems kinda sketchy.. What if we both decided it was safe at the same time? I start making my turn, he starts making his pass. Seems like just a bad place to allow passing.
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Many 2 lane highways are that way. They have roads entering them so often that it makes no sense to not allow passing, so you have to enter the road at your own risk. Often that means waiting until there is no traffic coming from either direction.
 
Can someone put up a better description? I read the OP's three times and I don't understand what is happening.
 
So basically this Op?

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I'd say both are partially at fault; with the person at the stop sign slightly more at fault because they're entering the larger street.
 
Driver entering the road is at fault. Vehicles in the travel lanes have the right of way. It's on the driver entering the roadway to do so in a say manor. At least in my state, others may vary.
 
sygyzy said:
Can someone put up a better description? I read the OP's three times and I don't understand what is happening.
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Two lane road is the main road. The OP was sitting at a stop sign on a road that T's into the main road. So it would look like this:


_________________________________
....................................<----CAR
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

.........................->......<---Passing Car
_____________ ...|.._______________
.....................| OP |
 
If that's the case, the cop is at fault. I don't know of any place where it's legal to change lanes in an intersection. I can't believe people don't know this. This is exactly the situation the law is trying to avoid.
 
boomhower said:
Driver entering the road is at fault. Vehicles in the travel lanes have the right of way. It's on the driver entering the roadway to do so in a say manor. At least in my state, others may vary.
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The difference is that in this case, the two lanes travel in different directions. The cop was using the oncoming traffic lane to pass a slower car.
 
sygyzy said:
If that's the case, the cop is at fault. I don't know of any place where it's legal to change lanes in an intersection. I can't believe people don't know this. This is exactly the situation the law is trying to avoid.
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If that were the case, it would not be a marked passing lane.
 
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