Driving rant... 4 way stop.

[Murphyrulez]

When you and another driver come to a 4 way stop, for God's sake, if you arrive first, JUST GO. Don't sit there and wave at me, trying to be a nice guy or something, because I think you are an asshat. If we arrive at the same time, for God's sake, the GUY ON THE RIGHT goes first. DON'T sit there and wave at me, trying to be a nice guy or something, because I hate your guts.

You sit there and wave, and I think you are blowing your nose, or cursing your wife, and I sit there and wait for you like I am supposed to, and you sit there and wave, and finally I start to go, then you get tired of waving, and you start to go, and we both stop again, then you wave again, then I get out of my car and kick you in the nads.


IF IT'S YOUR TURN TO GO, JUST GO.

 

[loup garou]

Good lord I hate that more than anything. Why is the 4 way stop the only time morons decide to be courteous when driving?

 

[Imported]

I hate it when you go, then the other guy going the opposite direction goes.. BUT FREAKING TURNS LEFT WITHOUT USING HIS STUPID TURN SIGNAL AND ALMOST ENDS UP HITTING YOU! I hate it especially if I'm already halfway across the street.. :|

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: Imported
I hate it when you go, then the other guy going the opposite direction goes.. BUT FREAKING TURNS LEFT WITHOUT USING HIS STUPID TURN SIGNAL AND ALMOST ENDS UP HITTING YOU! I hate it especially if I'm already halfway across the street.. :|

ooh...I almost forgot about that. I think that pisses me off the most. My blood pressure is rising just thinking about it. :| :| :|

 

[Thegonagle]

Wow, someone's waving you through? The NERVE!

Seriously, you've go to learn to just let some things go.

 

[Murphyrulez]

Originally posted by: Garfang
Wow, someone's waving you through? The NERVE!

Seriously, you've go to learn to just let some things go.

Yeah, but why do I have to sit there and try to squint through their windshield to see if they are waving me on, holding up the rest of the traffic? What's wrong with just obeying the traffic laws, and going when you are supposed to?

It's just stupid. Stupid people do it.

 

[SuepaFly]

OMG, last night I came home on the freeway and a sheriff was in front of me the whole time. Then I exited and he exited a different way and somehow he ended up behind me on this road that has huge hills and a 35 mph limit. The we get to a 3 way stop and I get in the left lane to turn and the sheriff is going straight in the lane to the right of me. But this asswipe that was stopped already before I even got to the line decided he was too frickin scared to make his left turn (onto the road the sheriff was going straight on) and drive in front of the police officer and kept trying to get me to go so the sheriff would be go too.

Usually to avoid all these problems I try to offset my speed if I see some other driver that is going to stop at about the same time as me...if they're going slow, I go faster, if they go fast, I go extra slow. Just so they can have their way....too many dumb people out there.

 

[yakko]

SuepaFly,

He probably had something wrong with the car that would get him pulled over.

 

[Angrymarshmello]

Originally posted by: Murphyrulez

Originally posted by: Garfang
Wow, someone's waving you through? The NERVE!

Seriously, you've go to learn to just let some things go.

Yeah, but why do I have to sit there and try to squint through their windshield to see if they are waving me on, holding up the rest of the traffic? What's wrong with just obeying the traffic laws, and going when you are supposed to?

It's just stupid. Stupid people do it.

Yea I'm sure you don't do anything stupid when you drive

 

[rh71]

I wave people to go most of the time... just to rid them of any stereotype they may have about younger guys driving SUVs being @$$holes or think they own the road. Have a nice day.

 

[vegetation]

Sigh, you guys have it easy. The 4 way stop I go through each day has morons who think a 4 way stop means for them to stop for .5 seconds, then go on their way without bothering to see if there's other cars already waiting their turn.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: vegetation
Sigh, you guys have it easy. The 4 way stop I go through each day has morons who think a 4 way stop means for them to stop for .5 seconds, then go on their way without bothering to see if there's other cars already waiting their turn.

Around here they generally don't bother with the .5 seconds thing. Lots of them assume that since the car ahead of them stopped and they had to stop behind it that counts for their "stop".

 

[iamme]

From my experience, when people try to be nice and wave others by, it just causes confusion.
Everyone's wondering, "it is my turn to go?" Then you have people starting to go, and hitting the brakes. It's chaos, I tell ya. It's better to just wait your turn and go about your business.

 

[B00ne]

Excuse me for being ignorant but what the heck is a 4way stop?

 

[BigJohnKC]

Originally posted by: B00ne
Excuse me for being ignorant but what the heck is a 4way stop?

United States' version of the roundabout (or whatever you call those road circles ya'll have over in Europe where two perpendicular roads meet )

 

[B00ne]

Originally posted by: BigJohnKC

Originally posted by: B00ne
Excuse me for being ignorant but what the heck is a 4way stop?

United States' version of the roundabout (or whatever you call those road circles ya'll have over in Europe where two perpendicular roads meet )

Ok thanks but dont u have signs then governing the right of way? this rule with who is first seems kinda sketchy. Who gets the right in an accident (word against word)?
We have unsigned roads only in very unbusy areas (residential areas, parking lots) and usually only in 3 way type of crossings

Anyway yeah that u mention roundabouts, they are appearing increasingly (they are mainly a french thing). Since traffic regulators found out (or think they do that) that roundabouts cause fewer accidents and the traffic is moving better they change traffic lights to roundabouts (where appropriate). But I dont know if I like them, but probably alot better than the aggrivating "red wave" we have here in Darmstadt.

 

[BigJohnKC]

Originally posted by: B00ne

Originally posted by: BigJohnKC

Originally posted by: B00ne
Excuse me for being ignorant but what the heck is a 4way stop?

United States' version of the roundabout (or whatever you call those road circles ya'll have over in Europe where two perpendicular roads meet )

Ok thanks but dont u have signs then governing the right of way? this rule with who is first seems kinda sketchy. Who gets the right in an accident (word against word)?
We have unsigned roads only in very unbusy areas (residential areas, parking lots) and usually only in 3 way type of crossings

Anyway yeah that u mention roundabouts, they are appearing increasingly (they are mainly a french thing). Since traffic regulators found out (or think they do that) that roundabouts cause fewer accidents and the traffic is moving better they change traffic lights to roundabouts (where appropriate). But I dont know if I like them, but probably alot better than the aggrivating "red wave" we have here in Darmstadt.

Good question. It's common practice here that if two cars arrive at the stop at the same time, the car on the right has the right of way. This is told to us all when we learn to drive, but I'm not sure it's law, and it isn't marked anywhere. Basically if an accident happens, and the two people can't agree on the story, it ends up being the fault of the person with less or no insurance, especially if the person is a young person. The US legal system at its best.

So you don't have many roundabouts? I remember seeing them all over the place in Ireland....but I've never been to Germany

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: Murphyrulez
and finally I start to go, then you get tired of waving, and you start to go, and we both stop again, then you wave again, then I get out of my car and kick you in the nads.

 

[B00ne]

Originally posted by: BigJohnKC
Good question. It's common practice here that if two cars arrive at the stop at the same time, the car on the right has the right of way. This is told to us all when we learn to drive, but I'm not sure it's law, and it isn't marked anywhere. Basically if an accident happens, and the two people can't agree on the story, it ends up being the fault of the person with less or no insurance, especially if the person is a young person. The US legal system at its best.

So you don't have many roundabouts? I remember seeing them all over the place in Ireland....but I've never been to Germany

Well, that the one from right has right of way on unsigned roads Iam pretty sure is law. But this whoever arrives first is kinda hard to prove (in case of problems) Haha, the insurance thing sounds funny - well actually not if i would be the one without

No we dont have many of them - so they have them in ireland too hmm they did have a few more than here in scandinavia but also not many. Cool thing abo8ut roundabouts is u cant go wrong if u dont know where to go just go roundandround till ur passenger looked it up

 

[ZaneNBK]

What's even worse are the 4-way intersections with a 3-way stopsign, like entrances to shopping centers. If you're coming in, you don't have a freaking stop sign so DON'T FREAKING STOP!! Argh! You screw everything up when you stop, I can't go because I don't know if you're going to figure out that you don't have to stop right when I enter the intersection so I have to honk or wait for you to wake the hell up!

 

[StageLeft]

AGREED! And also if it's not your turn don't f**king go. Whomever's wheels stop first it's THEIR turn, damnit!

 

[Electric Amish]

Originally posted by: ZaneNBK
What's even worse are the 4-way intersections with a 3-way stopsign, like entrances to shopping centers. If you're coming in, you don't have a freaking stop sign so DON'T FREAKING STOP!! Argh! You screw everything up when you stop, I can't go because I don't know if you're going to figure out that you don't have to stop right when I enter the intersection so I have to honk or wait for you to wake the hell up!

This is really true as well. A shopping center by me painted big white letters on the road saying "NO STOP KEEP MOVING". Doesn't help.


I believe that less than 10% of the US population actually knows or follows ther rules of a 4-way stop. :|

amish

 

[Tiger]

My town just took out all the stop lights on a mile and a half of main street and replaced them with 4 way stops.
You can tell who payed attention in drivers ed and who didn't. Unfortunately the speed is slow enough that Darwin won't kick in and cleanse the gene pool.

 

[jlee]

We actually have a few roundabouts here in Gainesville FL - but up in rural Michigan, 4-way stops are everywhere.

 

[Killbat]

Near my house they're doing some redecorating of the intersection of two highways, and they've closed one particular offramp from one of the highways onto a service road. Normally, traffic going either way on the service road would have to stop, giving exiting cars from the highway right of way onto the road. When they closed this offramp, they BARRICADED the ramp that leads to the street, REMOVED the stop signs, and REPAINTED the road to reflect the new continuity of the service road lanes.

People are STILL stopping at that point, months later. What the fvck is wrong with you, you senile old fvck?! You're essentially stopping for no reason whatsoever in the middle of the street! Yes, I know, there USED to be a stop there, but if you will put on your glasses and look around you'll see that there isn't anymore.

Every time, man, I'll be cruising along behind some old fart at 45mph, and then over the hill his brake lights come on.... "don't stop, don't stop, you don't have to stop, please don't stop, FVCK YOU OLD MAN!"