Dreamweaver is such a pile of crap!

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notfred

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<< Maybe if you didnt install the warez version over and over again.... >>



Fock you. I'm at work, I have the CD right here. It's purple, got some stupid little circle graphics on it. The manual is green, it's 582 pages long, printed in black and purple ink.
 

Electric Amish

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<<

<< Maybe if you didnt install the warez version over and over again.... >>



Fock you. I'm at work, I have the CD right here. It's purple, got some stupid little circle graphics on it. The manual is green, it's 582 pages long, printed in black and purple ink.
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Well, maybe you need the Warez version?? ;)

amish
 

notfred

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<< 1200 pages? It's nothing to laugh at but that's not so bad. I've gone through well way over that amount having to fix a site with over 3k pages (#includes included), a mix of .asp and .html files.

It was slow for sure but it would have taken me eons to do it manually.

Are you sure it's not a hardware/software conflict? Or perhaps even lack of memory?

As for the floating windows. I don't see why you can't minimize or close them. If you minimize Dreamweaver as a whole, all floating windows go with it. Additionally, each of those windows have an "x" button. If you want you can also go through Window > uncheck whatever on the menu bar. Short cuts also work to make them visible/invisible.

Just trying to help out. :)
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I know 1200 pages isn't THAT much, but the idea is that it's still way too much to do in notepad. Could be a lack of memory, but it hasn't complained, jsut crashes. I'll be getting a new machine with 4 times as much memory within the next week, maybe that will help.

The floating windows annoy me cause I want to keep tem open, but I also want to be able to look at the page. I hate the fact that you can't have the source view open and still see the graphic view. I wish that you could have them both open, and whichever one was selected would be in the foreground. Also, I Want to leave the link checking window open, so that I can go back and forth between it and my pages quickly, but it forces itself to always cover up the page I'm looking at. Also, I wish that al lth windows didn't disappear when you select another application. I want to be able to look at text in the link checker, and search for it in Windows Explorer. Too bad the link checker disappears as soon as explorer becomes active.
 

Parrotheader

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Dec 22, 1999
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Dreamweaver isn't my favorite program in the world, but I've never had any major problems with it. I do hate the interface though. Gotta be something screwy on your individual system. I personally try to use GoLive whenever possible. It's also a pain to load up the first time, but does all the stuff that I ever need after that. ColdFusion Studio's actually a pretty good program for that kind of stuff too. Very robust. But it tends to crash a fair amount.
 

Derango

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I bought Dreamweaver 4 two weeks ago...but only because Homesite 5 was included :)

I'm actualy begining to like dreamweaver...going to run through some of the tutorials this weekend and get used to some of its more advanced features.
 

notfred

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Current machine: Some old crappy p2 266 w/ 128mb ram, Matrox G200 and a 4gb scsi drive.

New machine will be a P4 1800 with 512mb, Radeon card, 40GB 7200rpm IDE drive.
 

Kelvrick

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<< The floating windows annoy me cause I want to keep tem open, but I also want to be able to look at the page. I hate the fact that you can't have the source view open and still see the graphic view. I wish that you could have them both open, and whichever one was selected would be in the foreground. Also, I Want to leave the link checking window open, so that I can go back and forth between it and my pages quickly, but it forces itself to always cover up the page I'm looking at. Also, I wish that al lth windows didn't disappear when you select another application. I want to be able to look at text in the link checker, and search for it in Windows Explorer. Too bad the link checker disappears as soon as explorer becomes active. >>


Errr, there is an option to see both the page AND the source code..
 

aimn

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Feb 14, 2001
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My Dreamweaver has never crashed. I am impressed that you guys can do what I do with dreamweaver, in notepad, faster. That is incredible! You guys must type about 500 words a minute! I'm impressed. Please.
 

Entity

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<< Current machine: Some old crappy p2 266 w/ 128mb ram, Matrox G200 and a 4gb scsi drive. >>


That explains it right there. I was about to comment about how I don't have any problems, but...

Work:
Dual P3-933 Xeon, 512mb RDRAM, 18gb Ultra-160SCSI

Home:
Tbird 1.4ghz, 768mb SDRAM...

I think it is an issue with your machine. Dreamweaver is a great program, but it is rather intensive.

Rob
 

CoolTechie

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ultradev is very intensive and crashes alot on my owrk system : p3-500 128ram
but never crashes on my home system tbird 1800+ with 256 ram.. ultradev can be finicky.. still i love it though
 

UnixFreak

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You "I only code in Notepad!" guys crack me up. Just because you write code in Notepad, doesn't make you "cool" or "leet", it just means that you dont know how to effectively use your time.

I use Dreamweaver to run my site, and I love it. I wouldn't dream of using a plain text editor.

For example, the templates function. A small change in Dreamweaver takes 30 seconds, then I update the rest of the pages, based on template. Total time: 1 min. If I were to do the same thing in Notepad: 2 hours. For that same "small change".

You dont see anyone dissing Photoshop/Gimp users saying "I only do graphics in paint" do you? No. Because to get higher quality work, in a smaller amount of time, you use more powerful tools. Bottom line.
 

Jfur

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<< You "I only code in Notepad!" guys crack me up. Just because you write code in Notepad, doesn't make you "cool" or "leet", it just means that you dont know how to effectively use your time.

I use Dreamweaver to run my site, and I love it. I wouldn't dream of using a plain text editor.

For example, the templates function. A small change in Dreamweaver takes 30 seconds, then I update the rest of the pages, based on template. Total time: 1 min. If I were to do the same thing in Notepad: 2 hours. For that same "small change".

You dont see anyone dissing Photoshop/Gimp users saying "I only do graphics in paint" do you? No. Because to get higher quality work, in a smaller amount of time, you use more powerful tools. Bottom line.
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Agreed.
 

incallisto

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I use UltraDev 4.0 for templates (making massive sites is simple with this feature). It's EXTREMELY fast on my dual P3 1Ghz box with 2GB of PC133 (64bit memory) and 10krpm drives in Windows 2000 or XP Pro. Must be a bad install or a slow box. ;)
 

slunk

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Feb 2, 2000
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I've been using UltraDev for a while without any problems. Kicks notepad's ass!
 

joohang

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Oct 22, 2000
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I prefer editing HTML directly off a text editor because it keeps my code cleaner.

But then I don't maintain 1200 HTML pages. :) And yeah, for work, I try to be efficient so do use tools like FrontPage.

I personally despise DreamWeaver for those floating windows alone. They're annoying as hell.
 

gopunk

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Jul 7, 2001
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notfred, give it a shot when you get your new machine, you might start to like it.

i was a hardcore notepader, after my my disasterous experiences with early versions of frontpage and dreamweaver. then, a year ago, i tried dreamweaver 4 on my bosses recommendation (he was really into it, so i decided to see what the fuss was about), and i use it for just about all sites right now. i use the split view, between code and design so i get the best of both worlds. and it's super easy to update a site with it. i like it a lot. one thing i really like is how it doesn't mess with your code too much. it does try to complete tables and other tags, but that is only a minor inconvenience.
 

777php

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I use Homesite about 95% of the time and it never fails me, I definitely recommend it. It's global search and replace function has never crashed on me either.