Draw a cartoon about Islam and you must die for it

[thatsright]

I've NEVER heard such uproar over a cartoon/picture I have never seen. Where can I see this cartoon that really, really Pissed Off the Muslim world.

Anyone have an idea where I can see this?

Thanks

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: thatsright
I've NEVER heard such uproar over a cartoon/picture I have never seen. Where can I see this cartoon that really, really Pissed Off the Muslim world.

Anyone have an idea where I can see this?

Thanks

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbvi...9/2/istockphoto_307269_camel_rider.jpg

 

[rchiu]

Man, I wonder what would the Christian world would do if a Muslim news paper publish cartoons with offensive image of Jesus Christ. I am pretty sure if this Muslim paper is in the US, they will probably get a few death threat from hardcore Christian groups, and there will be protests againt them too.

I mean come on, everyone knows that there are bad feelings between the "West" and the "Islamic" World. Those Danish cartoonists are just dumb to add fuel to the fire by publishing those stuff offensive to a religion with over billion people. Hey even if just 0.1% of those Muslim is extreme or pissed enough to give them death threat, that's like a million people going after those Danish cartoonists.

People have to understand not to do stuff that's offensive when there is already tension. Like the race problem in the US. What would the black do if some all white media portray them in a demeaning way? Sometimes you have to be sensive when it comes to stuff like race and religion. What you think is funny can be very serious offense to other culture or other race.

I really don't blame the Islamic world's reaction to this stupid episode. It is the Danish cartoonists who are stupid enough to not know what is offensive to Muslims, and stupid enough to not know right now the Islamic world and the West is having a bit of a problem and there is no need to add fuel to the fire.

And it's funny to see such one side slam on Islamic world in this forum....well how can any Muslim think they are being viewed fairly by the West when people act so one sided. Well, I guess if people in the US believe they can be fair and impartial to the Israel and Palestanian issue, people can believe everything else.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Hmmm, that means what exactly?

That when it comes to Muslims these days there is not much room given for tolerance. Out of the billions of peace loving Muslim people around the world the focus is on a few in the Middle East. Remember that thread in here that went something like * Are Muslims the new jew?*

I doubt many would admit it, and even more probably alot don't even realize it. ( Like those guys in the white pointy hats on Springer saying they aren't racist, they are just for white rights). I've been guilty of it

I guess that all depends on exactly what you mean by tolerance. Everybody has the right to their beliefs, but they don't have the right to force their beliefs on others.

True, but then why are you forcing your beliefs of freedom on Muslims and expecting them to accept them? The have their own belief, you have your own. Bigotry, really.

Where do you get this? Do you really think you can argue that your brand of freedom trumps my brand of freedom? If so then I guess it boils down to who was here first, and you lose.

Thanks so much for the lesson in bigotry.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: rchiu
Man, I wonder what would the Christian world would do if a Muslim news paper publish cartoons with offensive image of Jesus Christ. I am pretty sure if this Muslim paper is in the US, they will probably get a few death threat from hardcore Christian groups, and there will be protests againt them too.

I mean come on, everyone knows that there are bad feelings between the "West" and the "Islamic" World. Those Danish cartoonists are just dumb to add fuel to the fire by publishing those stuff offensive to a religion with over billion people. Hey even if just 0.1% of those Muslim is extreme or pissed enough to give them death threat, that's like a million people going after those Danish cartoonists.

People have to understand not to do stuff that's offensive when there is already tension. Like the race problem in the US. What would the black do if some all white media portray them in a demeaning way? Sometimes you have to be sensive when it comes to stuff like race and religion. What you think is funny can be very serious offense to other culture or other race.

I really don't blame the Islamic world's reaction to this stupid episode. It is the Danish cartoonists who are stupid enough to not know what is offensive to Muslims, and stupid enough to not know right now the Islamic world and the West is having a bit of a problem and there is no need to add fuel to the fire.

And it's funny to see such one side slam on Islamic world in this forum....well how can any Muslim think they are being viewed fairly by the West when people act so one sided. Well, I guess if people in the US believe they can be fair and impartial to the Israel and Palestanian issue, people can believe everything else.

Check the other thread for that answer. The christian world doesn't advocate violence because someone put dung on Mary, or had blood coming out of Mary's butt or had urine on Jesus.

Now tell me, Mr. Diversity, which is worse?

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Where do you get this? Do you really think you can argue that your brand of freedom trumps my brand of freedom? If so then I guess it boils down to who was here first, and you lose.

You know what the funniest part is? He doesn't even know what freedom is. He thinks that living in pakistan he has this grand idea that freedom is bad and evil and that people should be collared like dogs.

 

[rchiu]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: rchiu
Man, I wonder what would the Christian world would do if a Muslim news paper publish cartoons with offensive image of Jesus Christ. I am pretty sure if this Muslim paper is in the US, they will probably get a few death threat from hardcore Christian groups, and there will be protests againt them too.

I mean come on, everyone knows that there are bad feelings between the "West" and the "Islamic" World. Those Danish cartoonists are just dumb to add fuel to the fire by publishing those stuff offensive to a religion with over billion people. Hey even if just 0.1% of those Muslim is extreme or pissed enough to give them death threat, that's like a million people going after those Danish cartoonists.

People have to understand not to do stuff that's offensive when there is already tension. Like the race problem in the US. What would the black do if some all white media portray them in a demeaning way? Sometimes you have to be sensive when it comes to stuff like race and religion. What you think is funny can be very serious offense to other culture or other race.

I really don't blame the Islamic world's reaction to this stupid episode. It is the Danish cartoonists who are stupid enough to not know what is offensive to Muslims, and stupid enough to not know right now the Islamic world and the West is having a bit of a problem and there is no need to add fuel to the fire.

And it's funny to see such one side slam on Islamic world in this forum....well how can any Muslim think they are being viewed fairly by the West when people act so one sided. Well, I guess if people in the US believe they can be fair and impartial to the Israel and Palestanian issue, people can believe everything else.

Check the other thread for that answer. The christian world doesn't advocate violence because someone put dung on Mary, or had blood coming out of Mary's butt or had urine on Jesus.

Now tell me, Mr. Diversity, which is worse?

Oh yeah right. Are you gonna vouch for every Christian group out there? Including those militia groups Tim McVeigh, KKK and many other Christian extremist groups? Like I said, even 0.1% from either group that acts violantly and advocates violance and that's a lot of people.

Now tell me, which group started this whole mess and I will tell you which is worse.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Where do you get this? Do you really think you can argue that your brand of freedom trumps my brand of freedom? If so then I guess it boils down to who was here first, and you lose.

You know what the funniest part is? He doesn't even know what freedom is. He thinks that living in pakistan he has this grand idea that freedom is bad and evil and that people should be collared like dogs.

Freedom means different things to different people, hence my remark about "brands". If he thinks his "brand" is better more power to him. A lot of people have thought that in the past and you know what? They were ALL PROVEN WRONG!!

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: rchiu
Man, I wonder what would the Christian world would do if a Muslim news paper publish cartoons with offensive image of Jesus Christ. I am pretty sure if this Muslim paper is in the US, they will probably get a few death threat from hardcore Christian groups, and there will be protests againt them too.

I mean come on, everyone knows that there are bad feelings between the "West" and the "Islamic" World. Those Danish cartoonists are just dumb to add fuel to the fire by publishing those stuff offensive to a religion with over billion people. Hey even if just 0.1% of those Muslim is extreme or pissed enough to give them death threat, that's like a million people going after those Danish cartoonists.

People have to understand not to do stuff that's offensive when there is already tension. Like the race problem in the US. What would the black do if some all white media portray them in a demeaning way? Sometimes you have to be sensive when it comes to stuff like race and religion. What you think is funny can be very serious offense to other culture or other race.

I really don't blame the Islamic world's reaction to this stupid episode. It is the Danish cartoonists who are stupid enough to not know what is offensive to Muslims, and stupid enough to not know right now the Islamic world and the West is having a bit of a problem and there is no need to add fuel to the fire.

And it's funny to see such one side slam on Islamic world in this forum....well how can any Muslim think they are being viewed fairly by the West when people act so one sided. Well, I guess if people in the US believe they can be fair and impartial to the Israel and Palestanian issue, people can believe everything else.

Check the other thread for that answer. The christian world doesn't advocate violence because someone put dung on Mary, or had blood coming out of Mary's butt or had urine on Jesus.

Now tell me, Mr. Diversity, which is worse?

Oh yeah right. Are you gonna vouch for every Christian group out there? Including those militia groups Tim McVeigh, KKK and many other Christian extremist groups? Like I said, even 0.1% from either group that acts violantly and advocates violance and that's a lot of people.

Now tell me, which group started this whole mess and I will tell you which is worse.

Was Timoty McVeigh's goal to spread christianity? Was his goal to wage the christian version of Jihad? The KKK? Who do they represent? Christians? Show me where.

You're just blabbering and make no sense at all. These are random extreme elements of society that you believe have a large following. How the heck are they Christian extremist groups?

You still have not addressed my point of Jesus Mary in bodily fluids. Christians have acted peacefully towards that situation. Christians have not threatened anybody with violence. Now tell me, why can't the muslims do that?

 

[rchiu]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Was Timoty McVeigh's goal to spread christianity? Was his goal to wage the christian version of Jihad? The KKK? Who do they represent? Christians? Show me where.

You're just blabbering and make no sense at all. These are random extreme elements of society that you believe have a large following. How the heck are they Christian extremist groups?

You still have not addressed my point of Jesus Mary in bodily fluids. Christians have acted peacefully towards that situation. Christians have not threatened anybody with violence. Now tell me, why can't the muslims do that?

Who cares what's the goal of each extremist organization. An extremist organization is extremist organization. You pissed them off in anyway, they kill you for it. All those christian extremist group use christianity or a better word, twist christianity for their own benefits, just like those muslim extremist twisting Islam for their benefit. I guess you are too narrow minded to see that and you really think all Muslim is alike.

About your point on those Jesus/Mary stuff, number one I have no idea what they are and who published them. But I am pretty sure they were not publishbed by the LARGEST NEWPAPER of a country, like Jyllands-Posten, or else there will be pretty big outcry too. When you are the largest media of some sort in a country, what you do and publish represents your country in certain way, that's just the way it is.

Now address my question please, who started this mess?

 

[raildogg]

Protesters in Pakistan Target West



By ASIF SHAHZAD, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 54 minutes ago

LAHORE, Pakistan - Thousands of protesters rampaged through two cities Tuesday, storming into a diplomatic district and torching Western businesses and a provincial assembly in Pakistan's worst violence against the Prophet Muhammad drawings, officials said. At least two people were killed and 11 injured.

Security forces fired into the air as they struggled to contain the unrest in the eastern city of Lahore, where protesters burned down four buildings housing a hotel, two banks, a KFC restaurant and the office of a Norwegian cell phone company, Telenor.

U.S. and British embassy staffers were confined to their compounds until police dispersed the protesters, some of whom chanted, "Death to America!"

Witnesses said rioters also damaged more than 200 cars, dozens of shops and a large portrait of President Gen. Pervez Musharraf. Vandals broke the windows of a Holiday Inn, Pizza Hut and McDonald's.

Two movie theaters were torched, and clouds of tear gas and black smoke from burning vehicles outside Citibank and Metropolitan Bank branches drifted through streets in the city center.

A security guard shot and killed two protesters trying to force their way into a bank, Interior Minister Aftab Khan Sherpao said, adding that paramilitary forces were deployed to restore order.

Mohammed Tariq, a doctor at the state-run Mayo Hospital, said three people were being treated for serious bullet wounds, and eight more suffered injuries during clashes with police.

The protest was organized by a little-known religious group supported by local trade associations and one of the main Islamic schools in the city. Intelligence officials, however, suspected that members of outlawed Islamic radical groups may have incited the violence.

Raja Mohammed Basharat, law minister for Punjab province, of which Lahore is the capital, said the organizers promised Monday that the demonstration would be peaceful. No one has been arrested for the violence, but those responsible would be punished, he said.

The unrest began Tuesday in the nation's capital, Islamabad, about 180 miles northwest of Lahore, when between 1,000 and 1,500 people, mostly students, marched into a fenced-off diplomatic enclave through the main gate, as about a dozen police looked on.

The stick-wielding crowd charged about a half-mile down the road to the British High Commission, or embassy, where the students rallied briefly until police fired tear gas.

Outside the enclave, protesters smashed street lights and burned tires while chanting "Death to America!" and other slogans. Police rounded up about 50 protesters and put them in pickup trucks.

Another protest in Islamabad drew about 4,000 people. Separately, about 50 lawmakers from religious and moderate parties marched from Parliament to the diplomatic enclave, where they stood silently for five minutes before dispersing.

Hard-line cleric Hafiz Hussain Ahmad, senior leader of an opposition coalition of six religious parties, said, "We have come to the doors of the embassies to take our voice to the ambassadors. There is anger in the Islamic world. If they do not listen, their problems will increase."

People in this conservative Muslim nation have been enraged by the publications of the drawings, which first appeared in a Danish newspaper in September. Papers in other countries, mostly Europe but including some in the United States, reprinted them.

One of the caricatures depicts Muhammad wearing a turban shaped as a bomb with an ignited detonator string.

Islam widely holds that representations of Muhammad are banned for fear they could lead to idolatry.

In Copenhagen, Denmark, Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen said the uproar posed the biggest foreign policy challenge to his nation since World War II. Fogh Rasmussen said it would take time to defuse the crisis, which he called "a very considerable task."

"We don't see the solution around the corner," he said. "We find ourselves in the biggest foreign policy challenge Denmark has faced since World War II."

The Danish government has said it cannot apologize for the actions of an independent newspaper.

A Danish Muslim leader said his group would accept part of the blame for the international protests, but he insisted the group took its complaints to the Middle East because Denmark's government would not listen.

Ahmad Akkari, 28, told The Associated Press his network was willing to accept one-third of the responsibility for the firestorm, if the government and the Danish paper that first published the drawings shared the rest.

"Let's say we bear one-third of the responsibility. Could the other two parts not take their responsibility?" Akkari said in an interview at a mosque in northern Copenhagen.

There have been a series of mostly peaceful protests across Pakistan against the cartoons, and last week Parliament adopted resolutions condemning the drawing. Lawmakers also called for a nationwide strike on March 3.

But Aitzaz Ahsan, a lawmaker with the opposition Pakistan Peoples Party, said he will propose that the government call off the March 3 protest strike because of the prospect of further violence.

"It's really gotten out of hand," Ahsan said. "The violence is spiraling out of control."

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So I guess they are respecting their religion by destroying property and committing acts of violence. Cool.

 

[Taejin]

Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Naw, it will pass, Islam will stay the same, and people's hate will go towards a different group of people.

Honestly, Islam lasted this long as it is and will keep going, and will only keep increasing.

You will eat those words when we bomb your cities and topple your extremist religious leaders.

 

[Buck Armstrong]

Originally posted by: mOeeOm

Where are the muslims condemning this? I thought there was tolerance and respect for other's viewpoints? .

There is tolerance, as long as the rules and laws of Islam are followed.

You need to look up "tolerance" in the dictionary. We are not bound by your "rules and laws".

 

[raildogg]

Iran renames Danish pastries after prophet

?Roses of the Prophet Muhammad? is latest salvo in caricature protest

Updated: 2:52 p.m. ET Feb. 14, 2006

TEHRAN, Iran - Not content with pelting European embassies with Molotov cocktails to protest against cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad, Iranians have decided to rename the ?Danish pastries? relished by this nation of cake lovers.

From now on, the sweet, flaky pastries which dominate the shelves in Iran?s cake shops will be known as ?Roses of the Prophet Muhammad,? the official IRNA news agency reported as pressure on Denmark over the cartoons took on a new dimension.

?No one is allowed to make fun of our beloved and respected prophet,? Hassan Nasserzadeh, a cake shop owner in central Tehran, told Reuters.

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Between Freedom Fries and Roses of the Prophet Muhammad, I must say I prefer the former.

 

[Sureshot324]

Originally posted by: mOeeOm

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: mOeeOm

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: mOeeOm

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: mOeeOm

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: mOeeOm

Originally posted by: dahunan
Organized religion destroys ones heart and mind.. it does not allow them bond with humanity.. only with the other religious slaves.. .so sad

No it doesnt 🙂.

You think people should be executed if they spread lies about Islam... is that humane or even in touch with spirituality in any way at all?


I will create a topic soon asking if VIOLENT Religions are better than non violent ones.

Islam seems to be a violent religion.. REVENGE = Violence...

Its just Just and Fair.

So you support killing people who say bad stuff about Islam?

Yes or no.

If they try to publish lies and spread it about Islam, yes they must be punished.

I wish people like you are punished.

uh huh... seeing as I have commited no crime I don't know why you are saying I should be punished.

The cartoonists commited no crime either. What they did was perfectly legal. DO you get to decide what is legal and what is not? Are you better than the rest of us?

Spreading lies is not legal, it is slander, yet he did not get punished because it is the flavour of the month to hate Muslims. While you do not agree with it, God in the Quran commands us to punish people who spread lies about Islam by death, we didn't decide it.

All we ask is don't spread lies about Islam....is that too much?

And its not a Muslim thing, Jews and Christians have a lot of punishments people might find barbaric. Like Christians are supposed to excercise capital punishment on those who commit adultry, but 50% of the population is still alive

They also must stone to death the people who commit adultry.......yet they don't practice what the bible tells them.

Christians pick and choose what they follow, if they actually followed 100% the bible like we follow 100% the Quran, they would be in the same boat as us.

The cartoons did not spread lies about the islam religion. They are cartoons for god's sake, just jokes, no one is going to interpret them as FACTS about islam. They do make fun of islam, perhaps even fairly harshly, but that is no different from cartoons about politicians. To punish the cartoonists for that, would be an insult to western values and our laws of free speech.

 

[chcarnage]

Originally posted by: raildogg
Between Freedom Fries and Roses of the Prophet Muhammad, I must say I prefer the former.

How is one different from the other, I wonder?

To me, both renameings are very childish.

 

[BarneyFife]

HAHAHAHA! These crazy Muslims are still protesting over the cartoon and killing each other during protests.

 

[raildogg]

It is about the respect of Muhammed, hush it, infidel!

The Clerics approve of this, so that means it will be ok. Party on!