Draw a cartoon about Islam and you must die for it

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Originally posted by: Orignal Earl

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
I think people are concerned over the calling for restriction of free speech and call to violence.

I just find it odd the same people in here who are concerned over free speech and violence weren't saying anything about it. In other words I think it has alot more to do with bigotry then either of those issues

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QFT! It's just some sick agenda they have. They expect others to bow down to their whims without any reason to do so. Intolerence is wide spread in these extremists here.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl

Originally posted by: albatross

peace
down with the americans! 😛

Peace, but I think most Americans are good folk

Most American I interact with on nearly a daily basis are good tolerable folks who respect the values of others. However, some extremist nutcases still exist which can't be avoided.

What about people who value comedy over invisible rulers?

 

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
I think people are concerned over the calling for restriction of free speech and call to violence.

I just find it odd the same people in here who are concerned over free speech and violence weren't saying anything about it. In other words I think it has alot more to do with bigotry then either of those issues

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Christians aren't threatening to kill anyone. They aren't recalling ambassadors. You are ignoring the point that many muslims out there wish that the world' followed rules according to their standard. The bloody mary episode in South Park angered some Christians and they peacefully expressed their complaints. There was no violence, no use of force. I just find it odd you are defending people who want to take away your freedom of speech.

I would certainly say that Muslims are capable of acting with peaceful protests. The example of Nike and the logo that looked like the Arabic phrase for Allah was solved peacefully within the US. People (for the most part) acted civilly expressing their concern, and Nike willingly changed it.

Heard about that.

The phenomenon being displayed is blindness to one major side but ridiculing of the other minor side. Folks with underhanded agendas......:roll:

 

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Hmmm, that means what exactly?

That when it comes to Muslims these days there is not much room given for tolerance. Out of the billions of peace loving Muslim people around the world the focus is on a few in the Middle East. Remember that thread in here that went something like * Are Muslims the new jew?*

I doubt many would admit it, and even more probably alot don't even realize it. ( Like those guys in the white pointy hats on Springer saying they aren't racist, they are just for white rights). I've been guilty of it

I guess that all depends on exactly what you mean by tolerance. Everybody has the right to their beliefs, but they don't have the right to force their beliefs on others.

True, but then why are you forcing your beliefs of freedom on Muslims and expecting them to accept them? The have their own belief, you have your own. Bigotry, really.

 

[Proletariat]

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Hmmm, that means what exactly?

That when it comes to Muslims these days there is not much room given for tolerance. Out of the billions of peace loving Muslim people around the world the focus is on a few in the Middle East. Remember that thread in here that went something like * Are Muslims the new jew?*

I doubt many would admit it, and even more probably alot don't even realize it. ( Like those guys in the white pointy hats on Springer saying they aren't racist, they are just for white rights). I've been guilty of it

I guess that all depends on exactly what you mean by tolerance. Everybody has the right to their beliefs, but they don't have the right to force their beliefs on others.

True, but then why are you forcing your beliefs of freedom on Muslims and expecting them to accept them? The have their own belief, you have your own. Bigotry, really.

So you don't like freedom,justice and equality then?

 

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Originally posted by: Orignal Earl

Originally posted by: rahvin
American Muslims account for an insignifigant percentage of the population and would serve as nothing more than an anecdotal reference.

Let's say there are 8 million muslims in America, you say a majority of them would be quite violent, so say 7 million violent? (yes a majority could be 51% of them, but I think your implying more then that)

and I suspect it has something to do with a religion that preachs so much death and destruction.

Since they all are following Islam that you say preachs death and destruction, and 7 out of 8 of them are violent you should not have any problem proving me wrong. I think that someone who would state his views on Islam in front of 1000's of readers, should at least take a couple hours to personally investigate his claims.

Did you watch the video? Do you think its fake?

Turning Muslim in Texas . People reverting to Islam in Texas.

Old Earl, as stated by rahvin, you can always come to Pakistan. I can guarantee you won't be harmed as some extremist seems to think.

 

[Proletariat]

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl

Originally posted by: rahvin
American Muslims account for an insignifigant percentage of the population and would serve as nothing more than an anecdotal reference.

Let's say there are 8 million muslims in America, you say a majority of them would be quite violent, so say 7 million violent? (yes a majority could be 51% of them, but I think your implying more then that)

and I suspect it has something to do with a religion that preachs so much death and destruction.

Since they all are following Islam that you say preachs death and destruction, and 7 out of 8 of them are violent you should not have any problem proving me wrong. I think that someone who would state his views on Islam in front of 1000's of readers, should at least take a couple hours to personally investigate his claims.

Did you watch the video? Do you think its fake?

Turning Muslim in Texas . People reverting to Islam in Texas.

Old Earl, as stated by rahvin, you can always come to Pakistan. I can guarantee you won't be harmed as some extremist seems to think.

:laugh:

 

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Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Hmmm, that means what exactly?

That when it comes to Muslims these days there is not much room given for tolerance. Out of the billions of peace loving Muslim people around the world the focus is on a few in the Middle East. Remember that thread in here that went something like * Are Muslims the new jew?*

I doubt many would admit it, and even more probably alot don't even realize it. ( Like those guys in the white pointy hats on Springer saying they aren't racist, they are just for white rights). I've been guilty of it

I guess that all depends on exactly what you mean by tolerance. Everybody has the right to their beliefs, but they don't have the right to force their beliefs on others.

True, but then why are you forcing your beliefs of freedom on Muslims and expecting them to accept them? The have their own belief, you have your own. Bigotry, really.

So you don't like freedom,justice and equality then?

Hmmm.... all three things are a part of Islam and basic human rights, so yes, I do support them but with the prescribed limitations in Islam.

 

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Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl

Originally posted by: rahvin
American Muslims account for an insignifigant percentage of the population and would serve as nothing more than an anecdotal reference.

Let's say there are 8 million muslims in America, you say a majority of them would be quite violent, so say 7 million violent? (yes a majority could be 51% of them, but I think your implying more then that)

and I suspect it has something to do with a religion that preachs so much death and destruction.

Since they all are following Islam that you say preachs death and destruction, and 7 out of 8 of them are violent you should not have any problem proving me wrong. I think that someone who would state his views on Islam in front of 1000's of readers, should at least take a couple hours to personally investigate his claims.

Did you watch the video? Do you think its fake?

Turning Muslim in Texas . People reverting to Islam in Texas.

Old Earl, as stated by rahvin, you can always come to Pakistan. I can guarantee you won't be harmed as some extremist seems to think.

:laugh:

From what I know, nobody has tried to harm your beloved countries team till yet. The jokes on you. :roll:

 

[Proletariat]

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Hmmm, that means what exactly?

That when it comes to Muslims these days there is not much room given for tolerance. Out of the billions of peace loving Muslim people around the world the focus is on a few in the Middle East. Remember that thread in here that went something like * Are Muslims the new jew?*

I doubt many would admit it, and even more probably alot don't even realize it. ( Like those guys in the white pointy hats on Springer saying they aren't racist, they are just for white rights). I've been guilty of it

I guess that all depends on exactly what you mean by tolerance. Everybody has the right to their beliefs, but they don't have the right to force their beliefs on others.

True, but then why are you forcing your beliefs of freedom on Muslims and expecting them to accept them? The have their own belief, you have your own. Bigotry, really.

So you don't like freedom,justice and equality then?

Hmmm.... all three things are a part of Islam and basic human rights, so yes, I do support them but with the prescribed limitations in Islam.

All of them are part of Islam...

Are you really that deluded?

This war will last forever if you really do. It will encircle the globe.

Just be aware that you are fighting the great Democratic superpowers on Earth.

America, Europe, Israel and soon India.

 

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Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Hmmm, that means what exactly?

That when it comes to Muslims these days there is not much room given for tolerance. Out of the billions of peace loving Muslim people around the world the focus is on a few in the Middle East. Remember that thread in here that went something like * Are Muslims the new jew?*

I doubt many would admit it, and even more probably alot don't even realize it. ( Like those guys in the white pointy hats on Springer saying they aren't racist, they are just for white rights). I've been guilty of it

I guess that all depends on exactly what you mean by tolerance. Everybody has the right to their beliefs, but they don't have the right to force their beliefs on others.

True, but then why are you forcing your beliefs of freedom on Muslims and expecting them to accept them? The have their own belief, you have your own. Bigotry, really.

So you don't like freedom,justice and equality then?

Hmmm.... all three things are a part of Islam and basic human rights, so yes, I do support them but with the prescribed limitations in Islam.

All of them are part of Islam...

Are you really that deluded?

This war will last forever if you really do. It will encircle the globe.

Just be aware that you are fighting the great Democratic superpowers on Earth.

America, Europe, Israel and soon India.

yes, all of them are part of islam; you can judge that just be reading the last sermon of Muhammad(SAW). Justice, freedom (within limitations) and equality are a part of Islam. They might as well be called the underlying foundation of Islam.

Don't open your mouth unless you know something of what you are talking about.

Last i checked, Israel and India aren't superpowers, however much you might like them to be. Israel has had till yet, a hard liner government (don't know about the replacement of Sharon) and India's secularism and democracy is highly questionable in the face of known criminals making it into the parliamant and representing the people as well as the racial killings all across India of Christians and Muslims. Surely, you aren't trying to forget the discrimination against Dalits in India?

 

[Proletariat]

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Hmmm, that means what exactly?

That when it comes to Muslims these days there is not much room given for tolerance. Out of the billions of peace loving Muslim people around the world the focus is on a few in the Middle East. Remember that thread in here that went something like * Are Muslims the new jew?*

I doubt many would admit it, and even more probably alot don't even realize it. ( Like those guys in the white pointy hats on Springer saying they aren't racist, they are just for white rights). I've been guilty of it

I guess that all depends on exactly what you mean by tolerance. Everybody has the right to their beliefs, but they don't have the right to force their beliefs on others.

True, but then why are you forcing your beliefs of freedom on Muslims and expecting them to accept them? The have their own belief, you have your own. Bigotry, really.

So you don't like freedom,justice and equality then?

Hmmm.... all three things are a part of Islam and basic human rights, so yes, I do support them but with the prescribed limitations in Islam.

All of them are part of Islam...

Are you really that deluded?

This war will last forever if you really do. It will encircle the globe.

Just be aware that you are fighting the great Democratic superpowers on Earth.

America, Europe, Israel and soon India.

yes, all of them are part of islam; you can judge that just be reading the last sermon of Muhammad(SAW). Justice, freedom (within limitations) and equality are a part of Islam. They might as well be called the underlying foundation of Islam.

Don't open your mouth unless you know something of what you are talking about.

Last i checked, Israel and India aren't superpowers, however much you might like them to be. Israel has had till yet, a hard liner government (don't know about the replacement of Sharon) and India's secularism and democracy is highly questionable in the face of known criminals making it into the parliamant and representing the people as well as the racial killings all across India of Christians and Muslims. Surely, you aren't trying to forget the discrimination against Dalits in India?

What about the complete elimination of Hindus in Pakistan? What about the the complete elimation of Sikhs and Buddhists?

Don't give me that. India is still relatively poor so there are unfortunate incidents. But don't try to pull that kind of crap.

As for Israel I don't even want to get into that, I'd love to but EVERYONE would be flaming if I did. Its just way too volatile a subject.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Originally posted by: asadasif

Old Earl, as stated by rahvin, you can always come to Pakistan. I can guarantee you won't be harmed as some extremist seems to think.

I would love too, and would in a heartbeat. I would visit any place in the Middle East right now except Iraq. And Iraq would of been at the top of my list, Hanging Gardens of Babylon etc. so much history there. Relatives went to Israel and into Jordon last year and loved it.

Originally posted by: Proletariat

All of them are part of Islam...

Are you really that deluded?

This war will last forever if you really do. It will encircle the globe.

Just be aware that you are fighting the great Democratic superpowers on Earth.

America, Europe, Israel and soon India.

Take a hour and watch that video Proletariat

 

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Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Hmmm, that means what exactly?

That when it comes to Muslims these days there is not much room given for tolerance. Out of the billions of peace loving Muslim people around the world the focus is on a few in the Middle East. Remember that thread in here that went something like * Are Muslims the new jew?*

I doubt many would admit it, and even more probably alot don't even realize it. ( Like those guys in the white pointy hats on Springer saying they aren't racist, they are just for white rights). I've been guilty of it

I guess that all depends on exactly what you mean by tolerance. Everybody has the right to their beliefs, but they don't have the right to force their beliefs on others.

True, but then why are you forcing your beliefs of freedom on Muslims and expecting them to accept them? The have their own belief, you have your own. Bigotry, really.

So you don't like freedom,justice and equality then?

Hmmm.... all three things are a part of Islam and basic human rights, so yes, I do support them but with the prescribed limitations in Islam.

All of them are part of Islam...

Are you really that deluded?

This war will last forever if you really do. It will encircle the globe.

Just be aware that you are fighting the great Democratic superpowers on Earth.

America, Europe, Israel and soon India.

yes, all of them are part of islam; you can judge that just be reading the last sermon of Muhammad(SAW). Justice, freedom (within limitations) and equality are a part of Islam. They might as well be called the underlying foundation of Islam.

Don't open your mouth unless you know something of what you are talking about.

Last i checked, Israel and India aren't superpowers, however much you might like them to be. Israel has had till yet, a hard liner government (don't know about the replacement of Sharon) and India's secularism and democracy is highly questionable in the face of known criminals making it into the parliamant and representing the people as well as the racial killings all across India of Christians and Muslims. Surely, you aren't trying to forget the discrimination against Dalits in India?

What about the complete elimination of Hindus in Pakistan? What about the the complete elimation of Sikhs and Buddhists?

Don't give me that. India is still relatively poor so there are unfortunate incidents. But don't try to pull that kind of crap.

As for Israel I don't even want to get into that, I'd love to but EVERYONE would be flaming if I did. Its just way too volatile a subject.

All those minoroties are still living peacefully here. There are attacks by some extremists but I and the majority don't support them. I did say i have hindu friends, after all.

Stop your whining Proletariat. If it happens in India, it is because it is a poor country? If it really is a poor country, I don't see them stopping their spending on military? They devloped the N-Bomb and you still call them a poor country. You classify racial discrimination and genocide in India as unfortunate incidents? Are you one of those radicals who doesn't believes the holocaust happened?

I too won't go into Israel too deeply. I would be very concerned for my own security if I ever had to go there at the hands of fanatical Zionists. While the common Jew might be a peace loving person and an innocent civilian, I don't trust the government and the Zionist infiltration there.

 

[Proletariat]

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Hmmm, that means what exactly?

That when it comes to Muslims these days there is not much room given for tolerance. Out of the billions of peace loving Muslim people around the world the focus is on a few in the Middle East. Remember that thread in here that went something like * Are Muslims the new jew?*

I doubt many would admit it, and even more probably alot don't even realize it. ( Like those guys in the white pointy hats on Springer saying they aren't racist, they are just for white rights). I've been guilty of it

I guess that all depends on exactly what you mean by tolerance. Everybody has the right to their beliefs, but they don't have the right to force their beliefs on others.

True, but then why are you forcing your beliefs of freedom on Muslims and expecting them to accept them? The have their own belief, you have your own. Bigotry, really.

So you don't like freedom,justice and equality then?

Hmmm.... all three things are a part of Islam and basic human rights, so yes, I do support them but with the prescribed limitations in Islam.

All of them are part of Islam...

Are you really that deluded?

This war will last forever if you really do. It will encircle the globe.

Just be aware that you are fighting the great Democratic superpowers on Earth.

America, Europe, Israel and soon India.

yes, all of them are part of islam; you can judge that just be reading the last sermon of Muhammad(SAW). Justice, freedom (within limitations) and equality are a part of Islam. They might as well be called the underlying foundation of Islam.

Don't open your mouth unless you know something of what you are talking about.

Last i checked, Israel and India aren't superpowers, however much you might like them to be. Israel has had till yet, a hard liner government (don't know about the replacement of Sharon) and India's secularism and democracy is highly questionable in the face of known criminals making it into the parliamant and representing the people as well as the racial killings all across India of Christians and Muslims. Surely, you aren't trying to forget the discrimination against Dalits in India?

What about the complete elimination of Hindus in Pakistan? What about the the complete elimation of Sikhs and Buddhists?

Don't give me that. India is still relatively poor so there are unfortunate incidents. But don't try to pull that kind of crap.

As for Israel I don't even want to get into that, I'd love to but EVERYONE would be flaming if I did. Its just way too volatile a subject.

All those minoroties are still living peacefully here. There are attacks by some extremists but I and the majority don't support them. I did say i have hindu friends, after all.

Stop your whining Proletariat. If it happens in India, it is because it is a poor country? If it really is a poor country, I don't see them stopping their spending on military? They devloped the N-Bomb and you still call them a poor country. You classify racial discrimination and genocide in India as unfortunate incidents? Are you one of those radicals who doesn't believes the holocaust happened?

I too won't go into Israel too deeply. I would be very concerned for my own security if I ever had to go there at the hands of fanatical Zionists. While the common Jew might be a peace loving person and an innocent civilian, I don't trust the government and the Zionist infiltration there.

Radical what?

Holocaust?

Of course I believe in that. I went to the Holocaust Mueseum in DC MANY TIMES. Please don't compare what happens in India to the holocaust. Its just absurd.

Christ man you are really messed up. I really don't want to continue this conversation any longer. Have a nice night, and pleae CHILL OUT.

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: magomago
What do we do when two thoughts of school conflict or disagree on an issue? Who is the right or wrong one?

Based on history if there is a disagreement on doctrine then the standard practice would be to kill each other frequently and persistantly.

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl
Very interested in your opinion rahvin.

Keep posting video's I don't intend to watch and you won't get it. See the funny thing about opinion is that everyone has one. An apparently large portion of the muslim world see's Bin Ladin as a leader so that's apparently what he is and even if you apparenlty think he doesn't have authority, others would disagree.

Originally posted by: asadasif
I don't understand who allowed you to play god for them and decide their matters.

Quite clearly Al'lah did, it's more than apparent that he favors America and the west above the ME.

Originally posted by: asadasif
Old Earl, as stated by rahvin, you can always come to Pakistan. I can guarantee you won't be harmed as some extremist seems to think.

Go right ahead, I'll look for your video on the internet. Try wearing that Canadian patch, they have a lot of respect for that.

I always love it when they say they love freedom, of course as long as it's limited. Ie. not freedom. Can't be having personal freedom. You can be free to do whatever you want as long as the paedophile didn't say it was bad.

 

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Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Hmmm, that means what exactly?

That when it comes to Muslims these days there is not much room given for tolerance. Out of the billions of peace loving Muslim people around the world the focus is on a few in the Middle East. Remember that thread in here that went something like * Are Muslims the new jew?*

I doubt many would admit it, and even more probably alot don't even realize it. ( Like those guys in the white pointy hats on Springer saying they aren't racist, they are just for white rights). I've been guilty of it

I guess that all depends on exactly what you mean by tolerance. Everybody has the right to their beliefs, but they don't have the right to force their beliefs on others.

True, but then why are you forcing your beliefs of freedom on Muslims and expecting them to accept them? The have their own belief, you have your own. Bigotry, really.

So you don't like freedom,justice and equality then?

Hmmm.... all three things are a part of Islam and basic human rights, so yes, I do support them but with the prescribed limitations in Islam.

All of them are part of Islam...

Are you really that deluded?

This war will last forever if you really do. It will encircle the globe.

Just be aware that you are fighting the great Democratic superpowers on Earth.

America, Europe, Israel and soon India.

yes, all of them are part of islam; you can judge that just be reading the last sermon of Muhammad(SAW). Justice, freedom (within limitations) and equality are a part of Islam. They might as well be called the underlying foundation of Islam.

Don't open your mouth unless you know something of what you are talking about.

Last i checked, Israel and India aren't superpowers, however much you might like them to be. Israel has had till yet, a hard liner government (don't know about the replacement of Sharon) and India's secularism and democracy is highly questionable in the face of known criminals making it into the parliamant and representing the people as well as the racial killings all across India of Christians and Muslims. Surely, you aren't trying to forget the discrimination against Dalits in India?

What about the complete elimination of Hindus in Pakistan? What about the the complete elimation of Sikhs and Buddhists?

Don't give me that. India is still relatively poor so there are unfortunate incidents. But don't try to pull that kind of crap.

As for Israel I don't even want to get into that, I'd love to but EVERYONE would be flaming if I did. Its just way too volatile a subject.

All those minoroties are still living peacefully here. There are attacks by some extremists but I and the majority don't support them. I did say i have hindu friends, after all.

Stop your whining Proletariat. If it happens in India, it is because it is a poor country? If it really is a poor country, I don't see them stopping their spending on military? They devloped the N-Bomb and you still call them a poor country. You classify racial discrimination and genocide in India as unfortunate incidents? Are you one of those radicals who doesn't believes the holocaust happened?

I too won't go into Israel too deeply. I would be very concerned for my own security if I ever had to go there at the hands of fanatical Zionists. While the common Jew might be a peace loving person and an innocent civilian, I don't trust the government and the Zionist infiltration there.

Radical what?

Holocaust?

Of course I believe in that. I went to the Holocaust Mueseum in DC MANY TIMES. Please don't compare what happens in India to the holocaust. Its just absurd.

Christ man you are really messed up. I really don't want to continue this conversation any longer. Have a nice night, and pleae CHILL OUT.

Absurd because it's happening in India, right? :roll:

Nice escape tactic. The very same you have employed frequently against Aimster.

 

[Proletariat]

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Hmmm, that means what exactly?

That when it comes to Muslims these days there is not much room given for tolerance. Out of the billions of peace loving Muslim people around the world the focus is on a few in the Middle East. Remember that thread in here that went something like * Are Muslims the new jew?*

I doubt many would admit it, and even more probably alot don't even realize it. ( Like those guys in the white pointy hats on Springer saying they aren't racist, they are just for white rights). I've been guilty of it

I guess that all depends on exactly what you mean by tolerance. Everybody has the right to their beliefs, but they don't have the right to force their beliefs on others.

True, but then why are you forcing your beliefs of freedom on Muslims and expecting them to accept them? The have their own belief, you have your own. Bigotry, really.

So you don't like freedom,justice and equality then?

Hmmm.... all three things are a part of Islam and basic human rights, so yes, I do support them but with the prescribed limitations in Islam.

All of them are part of Islam...

Are you really that deluded?

This war will last forever if you really do. It will encircle the globe.

Just be aware that you are fighting the great Democratic superpowers on Earth.

America, Europe, Israel and soon India.

yes, all of them are part of islam; you can judge that just be reading the last sermon of Muhammad(SAW). Justice, freedom (within limitations) and equality are a part of Islam. They might as well be called the underlying foundation of Islam.

Don't open your mouth unless you know something of what you are talking about.

Last i checked, Israel and India aren't superpowers, however much you might like them to be. Israel has had till yet, a hard liner government (don't know about the replacement of Sharon) and India's secularism and democracy is highly questionable in the face of known criminals making it into the parliamant and representing the people as well as the racial killings all across India of Christians and Muslims. Surely, you aren't trying to forget the discrimination against Dalits in India?

What about the complete elimination of Hindus in Pakistan? What about the the complete elimation of Sikhs and Buddhists?

Don't give me that. India is still relatively poor so there are unfortunate incidents. But don't try to pull that kind of crap.

As for Israel I don't even want to get into that, I'd love to but EVERYONE would be flaming if I did. Its just way too volatile a subject.

All those minoroties are still living peacefully here. There are attacks by some extremists but I and the majority don't support them. I did say i have hindu friends, after all.

Stop your whining Proletariat. If it happens in India, it is because it is a poor country? If it really is a poor country, I don't see them stopping their spending on military? They devloped the N-Bomb and you still call them a poor country. You classify racial discrimination and genocide in India as unfortunate incidents? Are you one of those radicals who doesn't believes the holocaust happened?

I too won't go into Israel too deeply. I would be very concerned for my own security if I ever had to go there at the hands of fanatical Zionists. While the common Jew might be a peace loving person and an innocent civilian, I don't trust the government and the Zionist infiltration there.

Radical what?

Holocaust?

Of course I believe in that. I went to the Holocaust Mueseum in DC MANY TIMES. Please don't compare what happens in India to the holocaust. Its just absurd.

Christ man you are really messed up. I really don't want to continue this conversation any longer. Have a nice night, and pleae CHILL OUT.

Absurd because it's happening in India, right? :roll:

Nice escape tactic. The very same you have employed frequently against Aimster.

God damn no.

Its because the Indian government just doesn't say straight out that they want to kill off a certain group of people.

I know you want to engage me, but I'll do it US Army style.

DISENGAGE. Opponent foolish.

 

[firewall]

Originally posted by: Proletariat
God damn no.

Its because the Indian government just doesn't say straight out that they want to kill off a certain group of people.

Remember Modi? Gujrat's genocide was led by him. Isn't a minister of a state part/representative of the Government?

 

[Orignal Earl]

Originally posted by: rahvin

Keep posting video's I don't intend to watch and you won't get it. See the funny thing about opinion is that everyone has one.

Alright, I guess I can understand now more where your coming from. When you shut out the other guys opinion your part of the problem and will never be part of the solution

 

[firewall]

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl

Originally posted by: rahvin

Keep posting video's I don't intend to watch and you won't get it. See the funny thing about opinion is that everyone has one.

Alright, I guess I can understand now more where your coming from. When you shut out the other guys opinion your part of the problem and will never be part of the solution

See why I didn't responded to a single post by rahvin, raildogg and muege? I consider them the known extremists and instigators of anti-Islam thread. Just look at the new thread by raildogg. Same old arguments and bashing....:roll:

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: asadasif

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl

Originally posted by: rahvin

Keep posting video's I don't intend to watch and you won't get it. See the funny thing about opinion is that everyone has one.

Alright, I guess I can understand now more where your coming from. When you shut out the other guys opinion your part of the problem and will never be part of the solution

See why I didn't responded to a single post by rahvin, raildogg and muege? I consider them the known extremists and instigators of anti-Islam thread. Just look at the new thread by raildogg. Same old arguments and bashing....:roll:

The only solution is to tell your fellow muslim brothers to stop committing crimes and forcing people. You can put you disgust faces all you want. The purpose is and never was to make Islam look bad. I consider all major faiths and most other faiths as holy and would never want to disrespect them. But I consider radical Islam a threat and a growing threat at that.

We can look at the tradeoffs here. If we choose to ignore it, we will save money by not using our armed forces. We will not anger other nations. Yet on the other side, we will let the terrorists grow stronger and stronger and reinforce their views of how America is weak. Therefore, America has no choice but to go on the offensive.

That other thread just shows how radicals target innocent people, especially those that make a difference, like teachers. They prefer people to remain ignorant and join their cause. We can choose to ignore these news stories or we can discuss them and not make the same mistakes people made before.

Things that are happening now are the errors made by people in the recent and not so recent past. We can either choose to not study those mistakes and repeat them, or we can correct those mistakes and better humanity.

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl
Alright, I guess I can understand now more where your coming from. When you shut out the other guys opinion your part of the problem and will never be part of the solution.

You would have a point if YOU produced the video's, otherwise it's NOT your opinion but someone elses. Secondly I don't watch any video from the internet as windows has a dozen vulnerabilities in the media engine, and a dozen more that probably are public.

So as I said, you wanna contribute something do it yourself, don't rely on some begining lecture video in Islam to try to express your opinion.

Originally posted by: asadasif
See why I didn't responded to a single post by rahvin, raildogg and muege? I consider them the known extremists and instigators of anti-Islam thread. Just look at the new thread by raildogg. Same old arguments and bashing....:roll:

So if you don't respond to us why did you post in the thread? Oh but you do respond, silly me. Oh and I'm definately Anti-Islam, I have my own secret little society for it and everything. We have our own publications on Mohhamad the paedophile. See, my secret society and I are out to get Islam. We wait in dark corners to expose it's inadequacies and taunt it relentlessly. We even fabricate all the acts of Muslim violence. Yep, that was us. We even made up Bin Ladin so we could influence the US government to invade Afgahnistan so we could take over the poppy fields, we have a thing for pretty flowers.

 

[Meuge]

Originally posted by: rahvin
So if you don't respond to us why did you post in the thread? Oh but you do respond, silly me. Oh and I'm definately Anti-Islam, I have my own secret little society for it and everything. We have our own publications on Mohhamad the paedophile. See, my secret society and I are out to get Islam. We wait in dark corners to expose it's inadequacies and taunt it relentlessly. We even fabricate all the acts of Muslim violence. Yep, that was us. We even made up Bin Ladin so we could influence the US government to invade Afgahnistan so we could take over the poppy fields, we have a thing for pretty flowers.

What are you talking about, the Zionist Jews fabricate the acts of Muslim violence. Oh, did you know they were the ones who locked the young girls in the Saudi school to burn alive, because they weren't wearing the proper clothing. They were also the ones who destroyed the World Trade Center... and bombed U.S. embassies across the world. They also instituted a policy of radical shariat across the Middle East, just to make the Muslims look bad.
:roll:

 

[Orignal Earl]

Originally posted by: rahvin
So as I said, you wanna contribute something do it yourself, don't rely on some begining lecture video in Islam to try to express your opinion.

Alright, based on my limited knowledge of Islam from reading and viewing educational videos/documentries and a few Muslim friends ( My doctor is Muslim too) I would have to agree that terrorism and violence are 100% against the teachings of Islam. People like Osama have hijacked Islam for his own reason's and that is what people focus on. When people are oppressed they will end up striking back and that's what we mainly see on the news. These people are not striking out because we are not the same religion. They are doing it because they have been wronged. Iraq is a perfect example of how to do things wrong and how to inflame the situation. For every attack you can go back and find a cause

Originally posted by: Meuge
What are you talking about, the Zionist Jews fabricate the acts of Muslim violence.

Nope the Muslim violence does happen, and it was caused by an action of the Zionist Jews

Unit 101 undertook a series of retaliatory raids against Palestinians and neighboring Arab states that helped bolster Israeli morale and fortify its deterrent image. However, the unit was also known for targeting civilians as well as Arab soldiers, notably in the widely condemned Qibya operation in the fall of 1953, in which 69 Palestinian civilians, half of which were women and children, were killed by Sharon's troops in a reprisal attack on their West Bank village. The Palestinians were killed inside their own homes, in what was Sharon's first known attack against civilian populations.

Which was caused by a Muslim who killed one woman. Those Jews were lucky to be alive and many more would of been, say, if more was done when Hitler was exterminating them

From early 1944 onwards, the level of knowledge about Auschwitz and its role as an extermination camp began to grow among the Allies. This was helped by a handful of prisoners escaping from Auschwitz, as well as the work of the Polish resistance. The available intelligence was finally put together in a 30-page report that became known as the "Auschwitz Protocols." It included sketches showing the location of the gas chambers and crematoria at Birkenau.
U.S. response to Jewish requests to bomb Auschwitz

U.S. Assistant Secretary of State John McCloy considered the proposed bombing of Auschwitz impractical

Because of these documents, the American government in June 1944?only weeks after the D-Day landings?received requests from Jewish organizations calling for the bombing of Auschwitz?s gas chambers and the railway lines that led to the camp. The requests were rejected by U.S. Assistant Secretary of State John McCloy on the grounds that the bombing was "impractical" and would lead to "diversion of considerable air support" that was essential elsewhere.
In August, however, the Americans bombed the IG Farben factory at Monowitz, just a few miles from Birkenau. During one bombing run, American aerial photographs clearly showed Auschwitz-Birkenau?s crematoria.

But the Allies didn't think it was worth the effort.

So we can sit and keep blaming the other side and killing each other or you can start to figure out how to fix it. Unfortunately, I think the people with the power to do so have no interest in doing so. In fact, it is more in their interest to keep it going

Like the C.I.A. guy says in the video the radicals like Osama will continue to gain support because of
U.S. government supports Israel and is indifferent to the Palestinians
U.S. occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan
U.S. support of countries that oppress Muslims such as Russia, India and China
U.S. support for tyrannical governments

And of course that's just the reasons Osama will use to bolster his war. For all the other conflicts there are separate reasons