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Heh. Document the clear opportunity to contain ISIS, whatever that's supposed to mean.

Document ignoring the threat.

Libya? It doesn't even approach the magnitude of Bush Admin failure in both Iraq & Afghanistan.
I'm not going to defend Bush...just asking the cheerleaders here to get real about Obama and his failures.
 

Jhhnn

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I'm not going to defend Bush...just asking the cheerleaders to get real about Obama and his failures.

Meaning you can't document your allegations, obviously. But you'll go on believing them to be true on the basis of team spirit, obviously.
 

JSt0rm

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I'm not going to defend Bush...just asking the cheerleaders here to get real about Obama and his failures.

show us. How did obama mess up syria and the middle east? Remember congress blocked him from any action like 2 years ago. Now please tell us.

Trump is gonna fuck shit up dog. Believe. But thats why you deplorables voted him in.
 

fskimospy

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Just to be clear as a source of good information you're quoting the former intel chilef who Obama fired, who later claimed that Hillary Clinton was participating in satanic rituals where she drank human blood, and who believes the UN's Agenda 21 is a plot to create a one world government? Why not just quote your drunken, ranting uncle at thanksgiving?

Have you ever stopped to think why that might be a poor choice of sources? I mean it's hard to think of a less credible figure than that.

Persistent requests for help fighting ISIS with air support rebuffed.
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/12/...rstrikes-on-militants-officials-say.html?_r=0

But plenty of other requests for help fighting ISIS were granted. I agree that the US didn't recognize the threat of ISIS quickly enough, but ignoring the large scale aid we gave them earlier while cherry picking air strikes doesn't help your case.
 
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Just to be clear as a source of good information you're quoting the former intel chilef who Obama fired, who later claimed that Hillary Clinton was participating in satanic rituals where she drank human blood, and who believes the UN's Agenda 21 is a plot to create a one world government? Why not just quote your drunken, ranting uncle at thanksgiving?

Have you ever stopped to think why that might be a poor choice of sources? I mean it's hard to think of a less credible figure than that.
He was Defense Intelligence Agency director at the time...yeah, wtf would he know anyway. lol

But plenty of other requests for help fighting ISIS were granted. I agree that the US didn't recognize the threat of ISIS quickly enough, but ignoring the large scale aid we gave them earlier while cherry picking air strikes doesn't help your case.
Ignoring persistent calls for air support to help our ally fight ISIS is cherry picking? lol

Disparage and deflect...classic fskimospy.
 
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fskimospy

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He was Defense Intelligence Agency director at the time...yeah, wtf would he know anyway. lol

Yes, the guy who claimed Obama ignored the threat of ISIS for political purposes was fired for incompetence by the same person he's accusing. No problem there! He was also renowned for believing in wild conspiracy theories while in office to such an extent that they had their own name: 'Flynn facts'. Currently he apparently believes that Hillary Clinton was literally drinking human blood as part of a satanic ritual while engaging in child sex trafficking and believes that creeping Shariah law is coming to destroy the United States. He also repeatedly called for Clinton to be jailed over the whole classified information thing while conveniently neglecting to mention he had done far worse.

So yeah, a hypocrite who got canned for being a conspiracy theorist nutcase who has continued trafficking in conspiracy theory nuttery is a terrible source. This is literal Alex Jones shit and I can't believe that even needs to be explained to you. (he's also an even worse choice for national security adviser, but the incompetence there isn't surprising to either of us I would imagine)

I'm waiting for you to literally start quoting drunken uncles as sources, hahaha.

EDIT: Here was a fun quote about Flynn by someone who worked for him:

“But his thinking process is not sufficiently analytical to test some streams against others and make sense of it, or draw consistent conclusions,” she said. “If you listen to him, in 10 minutes you’ll hear him contradict himself two or three times.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/18/u...n-national-security-adviser-donald-trump.html

Let me guess though, that's all part of a conspiracy by the NYT against him. ;)

Ignoring persistent calls for air support to help our ally fight ISIS is cherry picking? lol

Disparage and deflect...classic fskimospy.

Highlighting one area where we did not help them while ignoring the many areas where we did is basically the dictionary definition of cherry picking, yes. Immediately resorting to personal attacks when called out for your bullshit? Classic DSF.
 
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FelixDeCat

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Dude is already the most corrupt public official and he hasn't yet served a single day of elected office. Brilliant! This is what you morons get for electing the most grossly unqualified piece of shit, ever.

Unqualified? You mean like a community organizer from Zimbabwe?
 

JSt0rm

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you guys are about to get all the war you want with trump. Hell you guys are gonna have the supremem court the congress the senate and the presidency. Congrats. Don't fuck it up.
 

JSt0rm

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The question is - if everything goes to shit under trump will you still defend it?
 

fskimospy

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My points stand. But please quote the personal attacks you're referring to.

'Despite my source being an incompetent conspiracy theorist who believes Hillary Clinton drinks human blood as part of satanic rituals I think we should listen to this guy and I stand by it.'

You can't make this stuff up.
 
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'Despite my source being an incompetent conspiracy theorist who believes Hillary Clinton drinks human blood as part of satanic rituals I think we should listen to this guy and I stand by it.'

You can't make this stuff up.
Quit diverting. Where is my personal attack when I was allegedly called out for my BS? Quote it please.
 
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This thread is full of your personal attacks. No need to QQ about it. Tell us how bush was the best president.
Bush was not a good president imo and for that matter I didn't vote for Trump either...why do you constantly make shit up about what other people think? Has it ever crossed that tiny mind of yours that you live in a hyper-partisan bubble and don't really have a very good grasp on reality?
 
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Jhhnn

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http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/01/politics/michael-flynn-obama-isis/index.html

It's easy for Flynn to take pot shots years later, particularly considering he's a partisan nut case.

Persistent requests for help fighting ISIS with air support rebuffed.
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/12/...rstrikes-on-militants-officials-say.html?_r=0

Bullshit spin. Maliki got the help he asked for & no more. Maliki clearly has political considerations of his own that we can't possibly appreciate very well.
 

fskimospy

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Just as I thought, you've got nothing...the weasel in you is truly amazing.

So you accuse other people of diverting because they don't want to talk about forum drama instead of the thread topic. Then you try and get out of defending a total crackpot conspiracy theorist's ranting with it and have the gall to call other people weasels. Pathetic.

By the way did you notice that you personally attacked me for not providing evidence of you personally attacking me? That's got to be the funniest thing that's happened here in a while.