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BoomerD

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/gingrich-says-trump-is-done-with-drain-the-swamp-slogan-173426892.html

Gingrich says Trump is done with ‘drain the swamp’ slogan



Donald Trump fired up campaign crowds with a promise to “drain the swamp” of Washington corruption. But former House Speaker Newt Gingrich says the president-elect has soured on that populist rallying cry now that he has won the White House.

“I’m told he now just disclaims that. He now says it was cute, but he doesn’t want to use it anymore,” Gingrich, one of Trump’s most high-profile boosters, told NPR in an interview broadcast on Wednesday.

“I’d written what I thought was a very cute tweet about ‘the alligators are complaining’… and somebody [from Trump’s team] wrote back and said they were tired of hearing this stuff,” said the former lawmaker, whose conduct in the late 1990s earned him a historic bipartisan reprimand.

Trump himself had alluded to mixed feelings about the slogan during a Dec. 8 rally in Des Moines, Iowa, part of his triumphant postelection “Thank You” tour.

“Funny how that term caught on, isn’t it?” he said. “I hated it. Somebody said ‘drain the swamp.’ I said, ‘Oh, that’s so hokey. That is so terrible.’ I said, ‘All right, I’ll try it.’ So, like, a month ago I said, ‘Drain the swamp.’ The place went crazy. I said, ‘Whoa, watch this.’ Then I said again. Then I started saying it like I meant it, right? And then I said it, I started loving it.”

Trump used the refrain throughout October, and has reprised it at every stop on his “Thank You” tour. His critics have taken to repurposing it to attack the president-elect’s choices of prominent bankers for his Cabinet, arguing that he is not draining the swamp so much as bringing in different alligators.

Now that he's won...all his campaign promises that drew the "undesirables" to him will vanish like a puff of smoke in a windstorm...
 
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/gingrich-says-trump-is-done-with-drain-the-swamp-slogan-173426892.html

Gingrich says Trump is done with ‘drain the swamp’ slogan





Now that he's won...all his campaign promises that drew the "undesirables" to him will vanish like a puff of smoke in a windstorm...
I saw a Washington Post OpEd yesterday that mentioned that many of his supporters better hope he was also lying about his promise to repeal the ACA, since many would be left uninsured without it...
 

sandorski

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Small Twittery hands and a short attention span. Dudes gonna be best President ever!
 

Jhhnn

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Gutting the EPA along with the dept of education & the dept of energy will obviously create jobs, right?

Of course! It'll unleash the power of Corporate Capitalism & then the magic of trickledown will take over! A miracle!

They'll need big tax cuts along with it, for sure.

It's like Carrier shipping jobs off to Mexico is really Donald saving jobs...

Chumps.
 

MrSquished

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/gingrich-says-trump-is-done-with-drain-the-swamp-slogan-173426892.html

Gingrich says Trump is done with ‘drain the swamp’ slogan





Now that he's won...all his campaign promises that drew the "undesirables" to him will vanish like a puff of smoke in a windstorm...

That was a major reason people voted for him, to really have the administration run by outsiders with a new style of governing. the drain the swamp thing was pretty big with his supporters. They got suckered and now we all will suffer.
 

Jhhnn

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That was a major reason people voted for him, to really have the administration run by outsiders with a new style of governing. the drain the swamp thing was pretty big with his supporters. They got suckered and now we all will suffer.

It's a great example of how a con man exploits feedback from the marks. They spew mile-a-minute bullshit & play on anything that pleases the crowd.

"Drain the swamp" translates into "I'll say anything to work the con".
 

Puffnstuff

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Don't worry, he'll send Kellyanne out to spin things like a high speed washing machine and make it all clean again.
 

agent00f

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That was a major reason people voted for him, to really have the administration run by outsiders with a new style of governing. the drain the swamp thing was pretty big with his supporters. They got suckered and now we all will suffer.

Well, that was a major reason people *claim* to have voted for him.

As we typically see with a lot of trumpster they don't exactly claim true statements very much, which is why they won't care about this at all.

As long as he keeps lucrative white welfare flowing and minorities in their place, they'll keep toeing the line.
 

Puffnstuff

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It finally dawned on me that there is no actual draining going on. All participants have switched roles to that of a costume party so the identities are protected while they misbehave. In short, the swamp got a face lift but behind the masks are the same old monsters.
 

ch33zw1z

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It was just a metaphor, making people feel like positive change for the average american was coming. Enough Americans bought it hook, line, and sinker.

Fleeced again.
 

bshole

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It finally dawned on me that there is no actual draining going on. All participants have switched roles to that of a costume party so the identities are protected while they misbehave. In short, the swamp got a face lift but behind the masks are the same old monsters.

Oh there is draining going on, they just happen to be backfilling with sewage.
 

IronWing

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What y'all talkin' 'bout? We've moved on, that metaphor is no longer operative. Besides, what he said was, "Dane the swamp." It was a Hamlet reference you uncultured buffoons.
 

zinfamous

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The best part of the Newt interview (I was listening to this yesterday morning) is how he unironically champions the continued use of the metaphor, all the while he, Newt Gingrich, an establishment republican for the previous 3 decades + and, more than anyone else, the architect of pure obstructionism as a means of government "work", does not consider himself part of that fetid swamp as he steps into a rather lofty position in this, soon-to-be more-corrupt-than-Harding administration.

What a dishonest piece of shit he has always been.
 
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It was just a metaphor, making people feel like positive change for the average american was coming. Enough Americans bought it hook, line, and sinker.

Fleeced again.
I think you mean it was a euphaNism. The platitudes and promises that got drumpf in the oval office are falling fast. Shocking, simply shocking that a known con-man, liar extraordinaire would do this.I am shocked.
 
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agent00f

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It was just a metaphor, making people feel like positive change for the average american was coming. Enough Americans bought it hook, line, and sinker.

Fleeced again.

To be fair, only relatively few moderate types bought it. The right wingers always know it was just a lie to get a few more votes. That's why they're not the least bit surprised in this thread.
 

Pens1566

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Con man cons, marks don't want to accept they got conned. Film at 11.

There might be some small amount of joy to be had pointing and laughing for the next (up to) 4 years, and saying "well, you got what you wanted".
 

agent00f

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Con man cons, marks don't want to accept they got conned. Film at 11.

There might be some small amount of joy to be had pointing and laughing for the next (up to) 4 years, and saying "well, you got what you wanted".

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Trump/Bannon are looking to get the rust belt on lockdown. His supporters within obviously don't care about stuff like this as long as they get theirs, too.
 

fskimospy

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Con man cons, marks don't want to accept they got conned. Film at 11.

There might be some small amount of joy to be had pointing and laughing for the next (up to) 4 years, and saying "well, you got what you wanted".

Do you really think that's what will happen though? Remember the last eight years of conservatives saying Obama blamed everything on Bush, despite Obama being handed the worst economic situation since the great depression (meaning there was quite a bit to blame on Bush)? Even though Trump is being handed an economy that's functioning pretty well I would bet money that Trump and Co. almost immediately set upon blaming their failures on Obama. What's even sadder is that when people point out that's bullshit I'm sure the cry will be "but Obama blamed everything on Bush!"
 

Pens1566

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I wouldn't be so sure about that. Trump/Bannon are looking to get the rust belt on lockdown. His supporters within obviously don't care about stuff like this as long as they get theirs, too.

I'm sure they WANT to, but there will be some difficulty in doing so given what we've already seen from the admin.

1) They're not bringing coal or steel back.
2) The carrier "deal" backfired bigly in that their "win" allowed the company to move even more jobs out longterm
3) ACA cuts coming will primarily impact their voter base
4) SSI cuts also ^
4) A cabinet of billionaires isn't going to be making policy that helps this either
 

Pens1566

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Do you really think that's what will happen though? Remember the last eight years of conservatives saying Obama blamed everything on Bush, despite Obama being handed the worst economic situation since the great depression (meaning there was quite a bit to blame on Bush)? Even though Trump is being handed an economy that's functioning pretty well I would bet money that Trump and Co. almost immediately set upon blaming their failures on Obama. What's even sadder is that when people point out that's bullshit I'm sure the cry will be "but Obama blamed everything on Bush!"

Think? No, not really. Hope? Yes. Mostly because reality is now apparently open to interpretation.
 

agent00f

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I'm sure they WANT to, but there will be some difficulty in doing so given what we've already seen from the admin.

1) They're not bringing coal or steel back.
2) The carrier "deal" backfired bigly in that their "win" allowed the company to move even more jobs out longterm
3) ACA cuts coming will primarily impact their voter base
4) SSI cuts also ^
4) A cabinet of billionaires isn't going to be making policy that helps this either

Their methodology are rather simple and mostly involve keeping on top of the ethnic totem (ie. white country), and straight welfare/subsidy playoff in form of "defense" or the new trillion $ "infrastructure" plan. Just because some rich people get theirs with some kickbacks for the person responsible doesn't mean the area most critical to Trump/Bannon's future will be neglected. Just look up how all these fascist states treat their loyalists at the expense of everyone else. Notice the import_taj types cheering exactly that on, and the rest certainly don't disagree.