Draining the Swamp begins...

[Victorian Gray]

next thing you know it'll be toasters...

Hey, now *that's* serious stuff!

 

[Victorian Gray]

Thank you for your concerns, I will consider them.

You're mistaken. Not concerned, find it odd. Your kink is your kink. As long as everyone is adult and consenting, go for it.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Just admit it. They are radical extremist Christians. That plan to forcibly convert humans away from Islam, LGBT, etc or kill sub-humans that are for LGBTQA, Unity, not their color etc.

Let me correct you sir. As a bona fide Christian I can tell you that we absolutely oppose Trump and what he stands for. Big Religion on the other hand loves Trump and endorsed him from their pulpits. Christianity is not big religion so please do not confuse us. Big religion doesn't want real Christians in their assemblies which is why you see hateful extremism spewing forth from them.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Let me correct you sir. As a bona fide Christian I can tell you that we absolutely oppose Trump and what he stands for. Big Religion on the other hand loves Trump and endorsed him from their pulpits. Christianity is not big religion so please do not confuse us. Big religion doesn't want real Christians in their assemblies which is why you see hateful extremism spewing forth from them.

Let me correct you sir. As a bona fide Christian I can tell you that we absolutely support a president who will take this country in the right direction, which among the two choices, was Trump.

But while you are clearly bigoted towards Christians who assemble in a 2000 year old gathering that is ran by a succession of men formed by Christ himself, that should not make you feel as if your individual practice of Christianity would allow you take some sort of high ground. That makes you as hateful as those you seem to be judging.

 

[agent00f]

Let me correct you sir. As a bona fide Christian I can tell you that we absolutely support a president who will take this country in the right direction, which among the two choices, was Trump.

But while you are clearly bigoted towards Christians who assemble in a 2000 year old gathering that is ran by a succession of men formed by Christ himself, that should not make you feel as if your individual practice of Christianity would allow you take some sort of high ground. That makes you as hateful as those you seem to be judging.

"God" told them to vote for a man who spits on everything jesus stood for. They use the lord's name as a convenience for what they themselves want this country to be like, where the good jobs are for people like them and not the dark heathens.

These are literally the christians their God is going to condemn to everlasting hell.

 

[MajinCry]

Let me correct you sir. As a bona fide Christian I can tell you that we absolutely support a president who will take this country in the right direction, which among the two choices, was Trump.

But while you are clearly bigoted towards Christians who assemble in a 2000 year old gathering that is ran by a succession of men formed by Christ himself, that should not make you feel as if your individual practice of Christianity would allow you take some sort of high ground. That makes you as hateful as those you seem to be judging.

Matthew 5:5-7

And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward.

But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.

And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words.

Christ isn't, uh, too big on the whole church thing.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Let me correct you sir. As a bona fide Christian I can tell you that we absolutely support a president who will take this country in the right direction, which among the two choices, was Trump.

Do you believe that Jesus is God? My bible tells me to prove the spirits that not all that have gone forth are of God.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Christ isn't, uh, too big on the whole church thing.

I've noticed that most of his sermons were conducted outside in common areas where people would not be objectifying a structure like they do today. Most churches go beyond providing a shelter for people to assemble within and have become statements to the world of their affluence. I call them monuments to men and cathedrals of wealth which people tend to objectify as they pursue the worlds wealth. The Lord Jesus Christ was a humble person who worked as a carpenter for a living and lived poor never promoting the pursuit of wealth nor did his commercial fishermen apostles who all worked to provide for themselves.

 

[Sunburn74]

Let me correct you sir. As a bona fide Christian I can tell you that we absolutely support a president who will take this country in the right direction, which among the two choices, was Trump.

Isn't Hillary like actually a christian? Why would she not take the country in the right direction from the POV as a christian other than saying christians shouldn't be forcing their lifestyles on non-christians?

I just find it odd that a lot of the good faith people have towards trump despite his obvious behavior contrary they don't have to hillary despite her general behavior supportive of it. People believe he won't be sexist, racist, behave like a christian and will fight for the little guy despite his long track record of just being the very opposite, but cannot believe hillary will despite her long track record of doing just that. You cannot make this stuff up.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Let me correct you sir. As a bona fide Christian I can tell you that we absolutely support a president who will take this country in the right direction, which among the two choices, was Trump.

But while you are clearly bigoted towards Christians who assemble in a 2000 year old gathering that is ran by a succession of men formed by Christ himself, that should not make you feel as if your individual practice of Christianity would allow you take some sort of high ground. That makes you as hateful as those you seem to be judging.

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bullshit on every single statement above.

 

[MajinCry]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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bullshit on every single statement above.

Good catch, I glossed over that statement of his.

@FelixDeCat On what authority do you believe that this snake oil salesman, one who is of the elite, a sycophant to the rich, a man who is fast friends with the billionaire pedophile sex slaver Jeffrey Epstein, a proud self-admitted molester, a raging racist, a rapacious sexist, a man who is a cowboy capitalist at the absolute best of times, a man who committed marital rape upon his (ex-)wife, a man who has as much competence in politics and moral endeavors as I do in cooking Kyrgyz cuisine...

On what authority do you believe that this individual will be the one to cure America's ails; to bring the Native Americans into the first world and treat them as fellow human beings, to do away with the destruction of the environment, to make amends for America's atrocities, to put to bed religion in favor of secularism, to make the rich (him, his ilk, his friends, his network, his allies, his family) pay for making the poor man pay in their instead, to end the racket that is war?

Quite frankly, with all that Trump himself has said, he wants to wind back the clock, and make America into what it was 70, maybe even more than 100 years ago; he will make America worse. More backwards, more racist, more belligerent, more primitive.

Again, why do you believe this failure of a human being, in every case of morality and competence, to be the one that will banish the shadows and make America a beacon of the free world?

More over, what year do you want Trump to return to? 1960, Where women are treated, by men, as little more than trussed up broodmares? 1860, In the throes of freely committing genocide and sex slavery upon the Native Americans? 1700, with all the (sex) slavery a bronze ager could ask for? Which year, to be specific, do you want America to regress to?

 

[sportage]

I haven't read thru all the posts here, but I see little draining of the swamp going on.
With Trump talking to Cruz and Romney and Rick Perry and every other loser republican out there, it looks to me like Trump is sucking up the scum from the bottom of the swamp and offering it a job.

 

[FelixDeCat]

@MajinCry

On my authority as a citizen and voter in these here united states of America.

Furthermore, being that you are not American, I suspect your judgment is swayed but what passes for normal where you live. I know big government socialism and multiculturalist nonsense and not being able to criticize Islamic takeover of your homeland is popular in Europe, but that doesn't fly here.

 

[MajinCry]

@FelixDeCat So the answer is your own imagination, which you defend by deflecting with right-wing propaganda.

Don't know what I was expecting, but that's just sad.

 

[raildogg]

Draining the swamp? LOL.

How can a billionaire who has had a shady past do this?
How can a reality TV actor do this?
How can a person who is considered an elite do this?

How can people call a billionaire TV celebrity an outsider?

In what way is the guy an outsider?

Yes, he was not a politician but you don't get to be a billionaire who owns tall buildings in NYC by being an outsider. Yet, the people bought the story. Just like they always do.

 

[Jhhnn]

not being able to criticize Islamic takeover of your homeland is popular in Europe, but that doesn't fly here.

Oh, God! Islamic takeover! Buy more guns!

Muslims are slightly over 1% of the US population. They're probably planning on using Kenyan voodoo time warp mind control to reach their dastardly goals, huh?

 

[raildogg]

Oh, God! Islamic takeover! Buy more guns!

Muslims are slightly over 1% of the US population. They're probably planning on using Kenyan voodoo time warp mind control to reach their dastardly goals, huh?

There was a story I heard (maybe true or not) that there are people who used to preach about Mexicans coming illegally but have now shifted their focus on Muslims. For example, these "patriots" claim that Sharia law is taking over. All this is fear mongering and stirring up hatred for some sort of gain (what gain, I am not sure).

The narrative in this country (and elsewhere) has been clear: Muslims can do no right and we should fear them. Of course, this happened all of a sudden after 9/11. How convenient that the Muslims suddenly became the bad guys and started to do "evil" things right after 9/11. I guess Osama sent out the memo from deep in his cave to the 1.5 billion Muslims to start behaving badly.

 

[agent00f]

@FelixDeCat So the answer is your own imagination, which you defend by deflecting with right-wing propaganda.

Don't know what I was expecting, but that's just sad.

These people don't seem to feel bad lying about pretty much everything, so there's no reason to believe they're honest about serving jesus.

Jesus reportedly did good works, ie much closer to the clinton foundation and pretty much the opposite of anything trump's ever done.

 

[sandorski]

Isn't Hillary like actually a christian? Why would she not take the country in the right direction from the POV as a christian other than saying christians shouldn't be forcing their lifestyles on non-christians?

I just find it odd that a lot of the good faith people have towards trump despite his obvious behavior contrary they don't have to hillary despite her general behavior supportive of it. People believe he won't be sexist, racist, behave like a christian and will fight for the little guy despite his long track record of just being the very opposite, but cannot believe hillary will despite her long track record of doing just that. You cannot make this stuff up.

Hillary is a Muslim Communist Satanic Kenyan Fascist!

 

[brycejones]

Hillary is a Muslim Communist Satanic Kenyan Fascist!

You left out baby eating atheist.

 

[trenchfoot]

Draining the swamp? LOL.

How can a billionaire who has had a shady past do this?
How can a reality TV actor do this?
How can a person who is considered an elite do this?

How can people call a billionaire TV celebrity an outsider?

In what way is the guy an outsider?

Yes, he was not a politician but you don't get to be a billionaire who owns tall buildings in NYC by being an outsider. Yet, the people bought the story. Just like they always do.

Whatever Trump was pumping out of his mouth during the campaign season was null and void the minute Hillary conceded. His singular purpose was to win an election. It wasn't to represent the interests of those that he made hollow grandiose promises to. As the days have gone by post-election, this is proving to be more and ever more the truth of the matter.

I like to separate Trump's supporters into two distinct separate groups and one that spreads itself among the former:

1. - The Base. The group that gave Trump the win in the primary. The zealots. The true believers, the Ultra Conservative Christians, the "real" Americans, the believers in "The Wall". Among them in the shadows, the dregs that Trump never disavowed. The ones that are now coming out of the shadows armed with the knowledge that "their man the Prez, who spoke to their beliefs" have given them his blessing, his unspoken almost imperceptible nod to unshackle themselves and spread their message of hate and divisiveness without fear of penalty because Trump will somehow protect them.

2. - The (possibly) Duped. The group that, when combined with the loonie base gave Trump the win in the general. I am particularly sympathetic to those in that group that based their decision solely on Trump's promises to bring their jobs back, to renegotiate NAFTA, to trash TPP, to "Make America Great Again". I really don't think they're going to have their wishes come true based on the promises Trump made to them. I think some of them already came to that realization based on the Cabinet choices Trump is making at the present.

But there's another group, a group that permeated the other two of whom Trump made promises to that weren't direct, that weren't loudly and proudly bellowed out by him. The promises made to them were insinuated, they were suggestive, they were entwined in every slogan and catch phrase uttered by Trump and they hit home with a big yet "silent" bang throughout the Midwest that caught the Dems flat footed and awestruck, magnified by the Dem's lack of attention to their wants and needs (and/or erroneous assumptions thereof?).

These are the folks that I really feel sorry but not sorry for. In my mind they've traded the possibility of having a better economic future for their kids for an intangible gamble: the state of mind that speaks to keeping the status quo in regards to their lifestyles, their way of life. Or, even the hope that Trump will bring them back to the better times they've enjoyed in the past.

Not a good trade in my mind, especially a trade that involves Trump in any way, shape or form.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Let me correct you sir. As a bona fide Christian I can tell you that we absolutely support a president who will take this country in the right direction, which among the two choices, was Trump.

Do you believe that Jesus is God? My bible tells me to prove the spirits that not all that have gone forth are of God.

Sir why do you refuse to answer my question? You claim to be a Christian but refuse to do what any bona fide Christian can so. Once again I will ask you, do you believe that Jesus is God?

 

[FelixDeCat]

^This is not a theology thread, however, the Catholic church teaches that Jesus makes up part of the Holy Trinity - God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Jesus is part of God Himself.

 

[Jhhnn]

Draining the swamp of net neutrality-

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...utrality-opponents-to-oversee-fcc-transition/

 

[Sunburn74]

And so it begins. If something like net neutrality falls, will they be coming after the free press next?