Dragon Age 3: Inquisition announced

[RampantAndroid]

Does DAI still have really terrible keyboard controls?

poke, poke?

 

[bystander36]

It never had really terrible keyboard controls. It had unusual keyboard controls that took time to get used to, and might be on the poor side. "Really terrible" is definitely an overstatement.

 

[escrow4]

The protagonist comes to believe his life, and everyone else's life, lacks any meaning because their choices have no material impact on the world, which is how he becomes a nihilist. I can write up a draft story script for the game if you'd like.

Its not the choices, its the lack of meaning. What you see and what you do has no point. All those "principles" are man made and meaningless. There is nothing and no point. You can go out and knife someone and it doesn't matter except your knife got bloody.

 

[RampantAndroid]

It never had really terrible keyboard controls. It had unusual keyboard controls that took time to get used to, and might be on the poor side. "Really terrible" is definitely an overstatement.

So Q/E are still mapped to what A/D are normally mapped to? What else is not what one might expect? Didn't they promise to fix things?

 

[frozentundra123456]

It never had really terrible keyboard controls. It had unusual keyboard controls that took time to get used to, and might be on the poor side. "Really terrible" is definitely an overstatement.

The search/interact command with that circle with the little dot in it is one of the most infuriating controls i have ever used on a PC. You have to stand in just the right spot, and often when you finally find the right spot, the stupid dot is covered by the interface. And having only 8 hotbar slots is inexcusable as well. Other than those, it is ok i guess.

 

[Red Hawk]

It never had really terrible keyboard controls. It had unusual keyboard controls that took time to get used to, and might be on the poor side. "Really terrible" is definitely an overstatement.

Ehhhh...they were bad keyboard controls. Camera movement was clearly programmed for controlling with dual analog sticks, and they didn't bother reprogramming it for mouse movement like Dragon Age Origins used.

 

[zinfamous]

Ehhhh...they were bad keyboard controls. Camera movement was clearly programmed for controlling with dual analog sticks, and they didn't bother reprogramming it for mouse movement like Dragon Age Origins used.

this. to be fair, tactical combat wasn't as necessary in this game as previous, so that aspect kind of washes out once you realize this, but the game isn't nearly as fluid on KB as with a gamepad.

I also think a lot of that has to do with class--I spent most of my time with 2 different mele characters (sword/board and dual dagger rogue). the skills for those, based on placement and twitch and timing, I thought 1-8 just don't work well at all.

I think, though, that I would be fine with a mage or ranged rogue using the KB/M

 

[bystander36]

So Q/E are still mapped to what A/D are normally mapped to? What else is not what one might expect? Didn't they promise to fix things?

WSAD turns and moves like normal. Prior to the changes, when in tactical mode while holding the right mouse button, you'd still turn with WASD, but now it strafes as you'd expect.

 

[bystander36]

The search/interact command with that circle with the little dot in it is one of the most infuriating controls i have ever used on a PC. You have to stand in just the right spot, and often when you finally find the right spot, the stupid dot is covered by the interface. And having only 8 hotbar slots is inexcusable as well. Other than those, it is ok i guess.

Are you saying there is no search when using a controller, nor an interact button? Does the controller version get more than 8 hotbar slots? I think you are just complaining about the general game, and not talking about K/M problems.

As to interacting on the K/M, use "f" rather than the right mouse button, and it is far easier and don't be afraid to remap keys if you don't like the default mappings.

 

[Blanky]

If it makes you feel any better, the person appointed at the ending won't matter a lick in Dragon Age 4, other than some throwaway text or encounter that'll ultimately be the same for all three possibilities.

Dragon Age 4: Predestination. Millions of choices. Same quests, locations, enemies and bosses. Doesn't matter what you do, you'll always end up in the same place. Time is a river, you can throw all the rocks you want but it won't ever change the flow, blah blah blah.

They should make the protagonist in Dragon Age 4 a depressed nihilist who realizes that nothing he does in the world matters because the same shit will happen no matter what he does with his life.

^_^

This is awesome.

to be fair, tactical combat wasn't as necessary in this game

Because there isn't really any. I still can't for the f**king life of me to get my guys to attack a single target and trust they will attack it until it's dead. As such all of my fights resort into a tavern brawl. Literally all of them. The damn idiots will not follow orders properly. It could be that "attack my target" lets them choose another target when I do an AOE, but that's the last thing I want. They should lock onto the target until it is dead.

 

[Mem]

This is awesome.Because there isn't really any. I still can't for the f**king life of me to get my guys to attack a single target and trust they will attack it until it's dead. As such all of my fights resort into a tavern brawl. Literally all of them. The damn idiots will not follow orders properly. It could be that "attack my target" lets them choose another target when I do an AOE, but that's the last thing I want. They should lock onto the target until it is dead.

I gave up on tactical combat in this game a long time ago,was amazed how bad it was on the PC.
I was some doing research on CTD,seems like a lot of players have the same issue http://answers.ea.com/t5/Dragon-Age...hing-to-desktop-no-error/td-p/4046654/page/12

It's more annoying when it happens in MP for obvious reasons,hope they find the main issue for the cause.
I've to say even after patch 3 DA:I is one of the most buggiest unstable games I've owned especially in MP.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Are you saying there is no search when using a controller, nor an interact button? Does the controller version get more than 8 hotbar slots? I think you are just complaining about the general game, and not talking about K/M problems.

As to interacting on the K/M, use "f" rather than the right mouse button, and it is far easier and don't be afraid to remap keys if you don't like the default mappings.

No, just the opposite. The search/interact if far superior with a controller. As for hotbar slots, a controller is even worse, but there is still no reason not to put more on the pc. My mage has several powers that are useless because i had to remove them when i started gettin my specialization powers.

And i dont know where you got the idea i dont like tbe game overall. I actually do like it, not as much as kotor or DAO, but it is a solid game.

 

[you2]

Well I finished; and I'm not totally happy with my ending but I have no desire to play again. I think when I think about it long enough that DA2 was a better game - it just had really crappy areas/maps but the game it self was better... Not saying it was good...
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And for the life of me I cannot understand why the load/startup/quit times are so freaking slow in this game. There will be periods when I jump to a new area and the disk is not being utilize; the cpu is spinning and not much is happening. No other game I played has load times like this game. (Load times are annoying becauase of the occasional glitches that cause the game to crash or hang).

 

[frozentundra123456]

Well I finished; and I'm not totally happy with my ending but I have no desire to play again. I think when I think about it long enough that DA2 was a better game - it just had really crappy areas/maps but the game it self was better... Not saying it was good...
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And for the life of me I cannot understand why the load/startup/quit times are so freaking slow in this game. There will be periods when I jump to a new area and the disk is not being utilize; the cpu is spinning and not much is happening. No other game I played has load times like this game. (Load times are annoying becauase of the occasional glitches that cause the game to crash or hang).

I never had any crashes, but I agree about the load times. Really annoying.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion, but I dont think many will agree with you that DA2 is a better game than DAI. I thought DA2 was not as bad as generally made out to be, but definitely not as good as the other DA or KOTOR games.

 

[Mem]

I never had any crashes, but I agree about the load times. Really annoying.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion, but I dont think many will agree with you that DA2 is a better game than DAI. I thought DA2 was not as bad as generally made out to be, but definitely not as good as the other DA or KOTOR games.

DA2 in some ways is better,ie controls,skill bars and attributes,healing,stability,party banter,only really bad thing was map rehashing in DA2.

As always it's how you look at it.

DA:I has nice gorgeous graphics ,good crafting, but to me it's worst of the three in many ways.

 

[KeithTalent]

DA2 in some ways is better,ie controls,skill bars and attributes,healing,stability,party banter,only really bad thing was map rehashing in DA2.

As always it's how you look at it.

DA:I has nice gorgeous graphics ,good crafting, but to me it's worst of the three in many ways.

Agree with all of this. I've not played DA:I in several days now and I'm not really feeling a huge itch to do so, which is odd for me and this series.

KT

 

[exar333]

DA2 in some ways is better,ie controls,skill bars and attributes,healing,stability,party banter,only really bad thing was map rehashing in DA2.

As always it's how you look at it.

DA:I has nice gorgeous graphics ,good crafting, but to me it's worst of the three in many ways.

That is a great point.

If Bioware/EA had put the same effort from DA:I/DA:O into DA2, I think it could have been a great game. It just reeked of laziness and compromises. It definitely had potential, but I will definitely never play it again.

 

[Mem]

Here is another perspective

Dragon Age: Inquisition' As Game Of The Year Is Like 'Crash' Winning The Oscar

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/01/17/dragon-age-inquisition-as-game-of-the-year-is-like-crash-winning-the-oscar/?partner=yahootix


Bioware thread on the above http://forum.bioware.com/topic/542273-dragon-age-inquisition-as-game-of-the-year-is-like-crash-winning-the-oscar/page-6

 

[ControlD]

Agree with all of this. I've not played DA:I in several days now and I'm not really feeling a huge itch to do so, which is odd for me and this series.

KT

I'll probably play it again someday once all of the major DLC has been released. I don't have any burning desire to get to it quickly though.

 

[bystander36]

No, just the opposite. The search/interact if far superior with a controller. As for hotbar slots, a controller is even worse, but there is still no reason not to put more on the pc. My mage has several powers that are useless because i had to remove them when i started gettin my specialization powers.

And i dont know where you got the idea i dont like tbe game overall. I actually do like it, not as much as kotor or DAO, but it is a solid game.

Exactly how is the search better? You simply ping with one button, and walk up near the object and press "f" on a keyboard. Did they just remove searching and looting with the controller? Or did you never learn to use "f"?

 

[Mem]

Exactly how is the search better? You simply ping with one button, and walk up near the object and press "f" on a keyboard. Did they just remove searching and looting with the keyboard? Or did you never learn to use "f"?

I have had to use the F key a few times when some items just would not pick up with mouse click due to bugs etc..Some people still do not know about F key on keyboard and what it does.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Exactly how is the search better? You simply ping with one button, and walk up near the object and press "f" on a keyboard. Did they just remove searching and looting with the controller? Or did you never learn to use "f"?

You seem to be really offended at any criticism of the game. I dont really understand that, but whatever. I dont think it is necessary to imply that I am too stupid to use the f button though.

Using a controller, you get a big green "A" button, it seems much less sensitive to standing in just the right spot, and you dont have the problem of the interface getting in the way. This function and movement are much better with a controller, but combat is still easier to me with a kb/mouse so I ultimately went back to that.

 

[bystander36]

You seem to be really offended at any criticism of the game. I dont really understand that, but whatever. I dont think it is necessary to imply that I am too stupid to use the f button though.

Using a controller, you get a big green "A" button, it seems much less sensitive to standing in just the right spot, and you dont have the problem of the interface getting in the way. This function and movement are much better with a controller, but combat is still easier to me with a kb/mouse so I ultimately went back to that.

The reason I ask, is the way you describe the "A" button, is simply how the "f" behaves for me. I realize that many are used to right clicking them, and I know that is a bit difficult, but "F" is easy. You really should try it. Given that it is the same game, I would be willing to bet the "F" and your controller "A" work identical.

 

[exar333]

Here is another perspective http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/01/17/dragon-age-inquisition-as-game-of-the-year-is-like-crash-winning-the-oscar/?partner=yahootix


Bioware thread on the above http://forum.bioware.com/topic/542273-dragon-age-inquisition-as-game-of-the-year-is-like-crash-winning-the-oscar/page-6

Honestly, I do agree that DA:I might not be the obvious choice for GOTY, but what game was in 2014? It was somewhat of a year of mediocrity for AAA games. My vote would probably go to Wasteland 2 or Divinity: Original Sin, but those are not mass-market games (only those get GOTY awards, unlike movies where smaller titles can win).

There was no Skyrim, Crysis, or other amazing game in 2014. There were some great sequels like FC4 but nothing too crazy. GTA5 and TW3 both missed 2014 and would have been candidates IMHO. 2015 does seem to be jam-packed, with Star Citizen and Pillars of Eternity also arriving.

 

[KeithTalent]

The reason I ask, is the way you describe the "A" button, is simply how the "f" behaves for me. I realize that many are used to right clicking them, and I know that is a bit difficult, but "F" is easy. You really should try it. Given that it is the same game, I would be willing to bet the "F" and your controller "A" work identical.

I'm not really sure I've ever used the F key. I use V to do the area search, like the sonar or whatever it is and I use the mouse for actions. What does F do exactly?

KT