Dr. Seuss political cartoons racist or not?

[realsup]

World War 2 cartoons

Just curious since politcal cartoons today still depict people like Condi Rice the same way.

 

[ChrisIsBored]

Where in particular did race come in as a factor in those cartoons?

 

[CaptnKirk]

Isn't it obvious ? Look at how the Japanese are depicted - it's a stereotype.

 

[KidViciou$]

right in the first cartoon!

http://orpheus.ucsd.edu/speccoll/dspolitic/Frame.htm notice the rat-like teeth, beedy eyes, sparce moustache, and snub nose

 

[ChrisIsBored]

We still draw indians with feather hats, is this racist as well?

 

[KidViciou$]

quiet possibly, same goes for native americans used as mascotts

 

[PatboyX]

there are some things to consider about the cartoons. most importantly that they depict our then enemies.
does that excuse the use of racial stereo-types?
no.
does it explain it?
yes.
but, again, because they were our enemies (in terms of japan, a lot of americans felt truly betrayed) i doubt anyone really cared. or even today would think too much on it.

and about the indians: stereotypes also help in defining icons for cartoonists. which feed into those stereotypes...but the very nature of cartoons/comics demands the ease of icons. again, it explains the use without excusing it. im sure if you looked up some info on scott mccloud, he might have some interesting stuff published on the subject.

 

[ChrisIsBored]

Originally posted by: KidViciou$
right in the first cartoon!

http://orpheus.ucsd.edu/speccoll/dspolitic/Frame.htm notice the rat-like teeth, beedy eyes, sparce moustache, and snub nose

If it wasn't for the fact that Suess' cartoon were based upon someones actual appearance I might actually agree with you. To call someone racist due to your own ignorance however is something I don't condone.

General Hideki Tojo

Don't be so quick to judge.

 

[jjones]

"Oh, gee, Hilter looks so Hitlerish; Tojo looks so Japanese. That's racist." You people are fscking idiots. Those aren't stereotypes or racism, they are actual depictions of real people done up in cartoonish style.

 

[Czar]

all cartoons are based on steriotypes, its just that what makes cartoons cartoons

 

[CaptnKirk]

Suess Cartoon

Tojo Picture

What do you think ?

 

[tallest1]

Originally posted by: jjones
"Oh, gee, Hilter looks so Hitlerish; Tojo looks so Japanese. That's racist." You people are fscking idiots. Those aren't stereotypes or racism, they are actual depictions of real people done up in cartoonish style.

I kinda agree. I've seen much more offensive propoganda from that time

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: tallest1

Originally posted by: jjones
"Oh, gee, Hilter looks so Hitlerish; Tojo looks so Japanese. That's racist." You people are fscking idiots. Those aren't stereotypes or racism, they are actual depictions of real people done up in cartoonish style.

I kinda agree. I've seen much more offensive propoganda from that time

ummm... i'm not sure... i mean it wasnt blatant or anything... but i think they were being sarcastic...

wait... yeh... the were being blatant...

damn some of you are so rapped up in this sh!t...