Dr. Hager's Family Values

[kogase]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: BBond
Maybe she was sleeping on her stomach and he snuck in from behind while she was sleeping awakening her (I would imagine) then she would turn at the waist and attempt to push him off with her forearm. That's one scenario.

So she's lying face down and he's on top of her entering her anally and she's pushing him off?

Uh huh.

Jesus, Jesus, you really are grasping at straws here. Do I really have to link a bunch of intraweb pr0n for you before you get it? I dunno how to explain this to you really, because I have no idea what sort of concepts of sexuality run through your mind...

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: BBond
Maybe she was sleeping on her stomach and he snuck in from behind while she was sleeping awakening her (I would imagine) then she would turn at the waist and attempt to push him off with her forearm. That's one scenario.

Why don't you address the "meat" of the article, so to speak? Why was this hypocritical abuser doing this to his wife against her will then trying to tell her she asked for it? Sounds like a really screwed up puppy to me.

Maybe he was afraid to go out and find someone who would fulfill his desires consentually. Maybe he was afraid he'd wind up like Jerry Baker of that other guy, you know, "I HAVE SIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNED!"

What's his name? The other hypocrite?

Grahaha, that really made me laugh. Right Here!

That's him! JIMMMMMMMMY!

Love that Elvis hairstyle and the really mod shirt too.

I wonder if he ever met Dr. Hager? Did Jimmy have to try to push him off too do you think?

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: BBond
Maybe she was sleeping on her stomach and he snuck in from behind while she was sleeping awakening her (I would imagine) then she would turn at the waist and attempt to push him off with her forearm. That's one scenario.

So she's lying face down and he's on top of her entering her anally and she's pushing him off?

Uh huh.

again for those too thick to comprehend -- that's why she said TRIED

why don't you stop obfuscating and address the real issue here???

She tried to push him off when it's a physical impossibilty? Interesting.

The basis of this story is this woman's allegations.

Her story doesn't make any sense. There's a credibility problem here.

 

[BBond]

Hey Rip, if someone tried to smuggle the old bologna up your apparently water tight keister I guarantee you'd understand the concept perfectly.

 

[BBond]

Amazing how you right wingers can imagine credibility problems where there are none yet ignore the most glaring ones right under your noses.

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: BBond
Hey Rip, if someone tried to smuggle the old bologna up your apparently water tight keister I guarantee you'd understand the concept perfectly.

I suppose it's possible that she arms growing out of her back, but I rather doubt it.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: BBond
Hey Rip, if someone tried to smuggle the old bologna up your apparently water tight keister I guarantee you'd understand the concept perfectly.

I suppose it's possible that she arms growing out of her back, but I rather doubt it.

Are you frozen stiff or can you turn at the waist like the rest of us?

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: BBond
Amazing how you right wingers can imagine credibility problems where there are none yet ignore the most glaring ones right under your noses.

These are allegations, not facts.

The fact that her story doesn't make any sense makes me leads me to believe that the allegations are false.

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: BBond
Hey Rip, if someone tried to smuggle the old bologna up your apparently water tight keister I guarantee you'd understand the concept perfectly.

I suppose it's possible that she arms growing out of her back, but I rather doubt it.

Are you frozen stiff or can you turn at the waist like the rest of us?

Lay on floor face down on your stomach and see how much you can bend at your waist.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: BBond
Amazing how you right wingers can imagine credibility problems where there are none yet ignore the most glaring ones right under your noses.

These are allegations, not facts.

The fact that her story doesn't make any sense makes me leads me to believe that the allegations are false.

So this "good Christian woman" made this all up so she could humiliate herself in public.

Did you read the account of the moment that changed her mind, Rip?

Back at Asbury, Hager cast himself as a victim of religious persecution in his sermon. "You see...there is a war going on in this country," he said gravely. "And I'm not speaking about the war in Iraq. It's a war being waged against Christians, particularly evangelical Christians. It wasn't my scientific record that came under scrutiny [at the FDA]. It was my faith.... By making myself available, God has used me to stand in the breach.... Just as he has used me, he can use you."

Up on the dais, several men seated behind Hager nodded solemnly in agreement. But out in the audience, Linda Carruth Davis--co-author with Hager of Stress and the Woman's Body, and, more saliently, his former wife of thirty-two years--was enraged. "It was the most disgusting thing I've ever heard," she recalled months later, through clenched teeth.

According to Davis, Hager's public moralizing on sexual matters clashed with his deplorable treatment of her during their marriage. Davis alleges that between 1995 and their divorce in 2002, Hager repeatedly sodomized her without her consent. Several sources on and off the record confirmed that she had told them it was the sexual and emotional abuse within their marriage that eventually forced her out. "I probably wouldn't have objected so much, or felt it was so abusive if he had just wanted normal [vaginal] sex all the time," she explained to me. "But it was the painful, invasive, totally nonconsensual nature of the [anal] sex that was so horrible."

 

[BBond]

What a hypocritical self righteous POS this clown Hager is. Fits right in with the Bush administration.

 

[kogase]

Ugh, this is all so absurd. This reminds me of "South Park" and the "trial" with Johnny Cochran prosecuting:

Johnny Cochrane: Ladies and Gentlemen, (Pulls down picture of Chewbacca) this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wooky from the planet Kishic, but Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it. That does not make sense.

Gerald (Whispering): Dammit.

Chef (Whispering): What?

Gerald (Whispering): He's using the Chewbacca defense.

Johnny Cochrane: Why would a Wooky, an eight-foot-tall Wooky, want to live on Endor with a bunch of two-foot-tall Ewoks. That does not make sense. But more important, you have to ask yourself what does this have to do with this case.

[Jury stares in silence]

Johnny Cochrane: Nothing. Ladies and Gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case.

[Gerald sinks back and covers his eyes]

Johnny Cochrane: It does not make sense. Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca. Does that make sense? Ladies and Gentlemen I'm am not making any sense. None of this makes sense. And so you have to remember when you're in that jury room deliberating and conjugating the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No. Ladies and Gentlemen of this deposed jury it does not make sense. If Chewbacca lives on Endor you must acquit. The defense rests.

[Silence]

Judge Moses: OK then

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: BBond
Amazing how you right wingers can imagine credibility problems where there are none yet ignore the most glaring ones right under your noses.

These are allegations, not facts.

The fact that her story doesn't make any sense makes me leads me to believe that the allegations are false.

So this "good Christian woman" made this all up so she could humiliate herself in public.

Did you read the account of the moment that changed her mind, Rip?

Back at Asbury, Hager cast himself as a victim of religious persecution in his sermon. "You see...there is a war going on in this country," he said gravely. "And I'm not speaking about the war in Iraq. It's a war being waged against Christians, particularly evangelical Christians. It wasn't my scientific record that came under scrutiny [at the FDA]. It was my faith.... By making myself available, God has used me to stand in the breach.... Just as he has used me, he can use you."

Up on the dais, several men seated behind Hager nodded solemnly in agreement. But out in the audience, Linda Carruth Davis--co-author with Hager of Stress and the Woman's Body, and, more saliently, his former wife of thirty-two years--was enraged. "It was the most disgusting thing I've ever heard," she recalled months later, through clenched teeth.

According to Davis, Hager's public moralizing on sexual matters clashed with his deplorable treatment of her during their marriage. Davis alleges that between 1995 and their divorce in 2002, Hager repeatedly sodomized her without her consent. Several sources on and off the record confirmed that she had told them it was the sexual and emotional abuse within their marriage that eventually forced her out. "I probably wouldn't have objected so much, or felt it was so abusive if he had just wanted normal [vaginal] sex all the time," she explained to me. "But it was the painful, invasive, totally nonconsensual nature of the [anal] sex that was so horrible."

The only thing I have to go on here regarding her allegations are her own statements which don't make any sense.

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: BBond
What a hypocritical self righteous POS this clown Hager is. Fits right in with the Bush administration.

You're clearly willing to suspend disbelief to make that statement based on the woman's own non-sensical statements.

I'm sure there are a lot of other lemmings who will do the same.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: BBond
What a hypocritical self righteous POS this clown Hager is. Fits right in with the Bush administration.

You're clearly willing to suspend disbelief to make that statement based on the woman's own non-sensical statements.

I'm sure there are a lot of other lemmings who will do the same.

You said that just like Johhny Cochran in the South Park episode Kogase posted.

Did you take my suggestion and try that experiment yet?

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: BBond
What a hypocritical self righteous POS this clown Hager is. Fits right in with the Bush administration.

You're clearly willing to suspend disbelief to make that statement based on the woman's own non-sensical statements.

I'm sure there are a lot of other lemmings who will do the same.

You said that just like Johhny Cochran in the South Park episode Kogase posted.

Did you take my suggestion and try that experiment yet?

What suggestion was that?

 

[BBond]

This one:

Hey Rip, if someone tried to smuggle the old bologna up your apparently water tight keister I guarantee you'd understand the concept perfectly.

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: BBond
This one:

Hey Rip, if someone tried to smuggle the old bologna up your apparently water tight keister I guarantee you'd understand the concept perfectly.

Sorry, my body doesn't swivel 180 degrees at the waist.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: BBond
This one:

Hey Rip, if someone tried to smuggle the old bologna up your apparently water tight keister I guarantee you'd understand the concept perfectly.

Sorry, my body doesn't swivel 180 degrees at the waist.

Yeah. OK Rip. Sure.

Try swiveling 45 degrees while supporting yourself with your opposite elbow while in bed.

I'm sure if you practice real hard you can get it. The rest of us seem to be born with certain basic abilities you appear to be lacking.

 

[Riprorin]

I have some great land in Florida. Interested?

 

[BBond]

There is no such thing as "great land" in Florida.

It's like saying there is WMD in Iraq.

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: BBond
There is no such thing as "great land" in Florida.

It's like saying there is WMD in Iraq.

Could I sell you the Brooklyn Bridge then?

 

[BBond]

Around these part we sell the Brooklyn Bridge to the rubes, not the other way around. But keep trying. You know what they say, "If you can just learn to twist at the waist you can accomplish almost anything."

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: BBond
Hey Rip, if someone tried to smuggle the old bologna up your apparently water tight keister I guarantee you'd understand the concept perfectly.

I suppose it's possible that she arms growing out of her back, but I rather doubt it.

Are you frozen stiff or can you turn at the waist like the rest of us?

Lay on floor face down on your stomach and see how much you can bend at your waist.

What an idiot. Of course you can try to push someone away whose attacking you from behind. Sure it would be difficult, that's why she wasn't successful at doing it.

 

[Riprorin]

Try impossible.

You push somone when they're facing you, not whne they are behind you.